Samsung confirms it is phasing out chargers and headphones from future devices

ilovelinux

Posts: 33   +85
Bring back removable (... unglued) batteries, headphone jacks (so we don't use battery powered headphones) and then you can preach about "sustainability". Otherwise all this seems like a circlejerk. Apple, Samsung and Sh-it-aomi can stick their preachings in their rear assets.
 

Shaitan

Posts: 95   +94
Bring back removable (... unglued) batteries, headphone jacks (so we don't use battery powered headphones) and then you can preach about "sustainability". Otherwise all this seems like a circlejerk. Apple, Samsung and Sh-it-aomi can stick their preachings in their rear assets.
AMEN brother.
If Apple is the colon, Samsung is Satan's unclean a$$.
Just hope EU will fine the asses of big mobile producing companies until they bring back removable batteries, IR, headphone jack and above 8 repairability scores.
 

mctommy

Posts: 388   +119
Are you that petty really? Just learn to recycle! This isn’t about Samsung’s profits, it’s about the health of the planet we live on. We should be demanding these companies make less chargers.

But no, apparently your hatred of a corporation is more important than the environment.

Sheesh, Samsung could invent fusion power and people like you would be demanding they dare not make any money out of it.

Having seen the return facility for a 3PL supplier of T-Mobile, I can tell you that they get gaylords of cables and chargers that gets sent out to the smelters/recyclers. They don't get repackaged or resold because it cost too much to check if they work and/or the cost to repackaged for resale as used or repackaged to use in refurbished phones is too high. Instead, everything gets recycled.

I do agree that with the newer phones that require bigger charger, those should come with at least the power brick that satisfy things like "fast charging", etc...
 

arrowflash

Posts: 324   +333
In the long run, this might end up being worse on the environment and backfiring on the phone makers. Without their good quality, certified chargers, many people will be purchasing the cheapest low quality third party chargers they find at Walmart or Amazon, which might end up lowering battery life or even causing an increase in exploding battery incidents. Of course the phone manufacturer will be blamed. And in the end it might end up resulting in more discarded batteries and more discarded chargers since these third-party chargers will also probably break sooner.

It’s not an excuse at all. People throw away thousands of tonnes of chargers every year. I myself have dozens of old USB A chargers that will also inevitably end up in landfill.

Yes these companies will save money on chargers, that doesn’t mean it’s not the right thing to do.

Personally I don’t understand why people are demanding companies bundle every electronic device they sell with a charger. Well, unless they don’t care about what they throw away.

Apologistic nonsense. What kind of person throws away a perfectly good charger? I only throw away chargers if they are malfunctioning or not working at all. Even for people who aren't into tech, everyone I know keep all their chargers.
 

SirDigby

Posts: 787   +587
Nice, every generation the prices go up, display this time goes down, no charger, but again price up.... 800 euro starting... come on, this is juat a phone...
Prices are down compared to the S20 series.
Fine I will stop demanding it when Samsung reduces its prices by the same amount as the current retail value of the items that were previously bundled with their phones.
They've reduced the price by more than the retail value of previously bundled items.
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Shadowboxer

Posts: 1,447   +1,044
In the long run, this might end up being worse on the environment and backfiring on the phone makers. Without their good quality, certified chargers, many people will be purchasing the cheapest low quality third party chargers they find at Walmart or Amazon, which might end up lowering battery life or even causing an increase in exploding battery incidents. Of course the phone manufacturer will be blamed. And in the end it might end up resulting in more discarded batteries and more discarded chargers since these third-party chargers will also probably break sooner.



Apologistic nonsense. What kind of person throws away a perfectly good charger? I only throw away chargers if they are malfunctioning or not working at all. Even for people who aren't into tech, everyone I know keep all their chargers.

You are full of bull. It is absolutely not apologist if nonsense. People DO throw away millions of tonnes of chargers every year. This is a fact. I understand that you hate companies making profits but you ought not to let your hatred cloud the truth. Which is what has happened with you.



51,000 tonnes worth of phone chargers thrown away last year alone according to the EU.

Clearly you don’t actually understand what you are commenting on.
 

jelabarre59

Posts: 35   +16
But it doesn't say whether this means they are removing the headphone jack. Not including "earbuts" (*especially* if their shaped like those horrid Apple AirPods that don't work in my ears, and just fall right out) is no great loss, and I'll pick out ones that work for me. But removing headphone jacks, removable storage, etc is simply unacceptable.
 

Vanderkaum037

Posts: 17   +18
You HAVE TO make an official statement at some point... And of course it has to be politically+investor+consumer correct.
So yeah, what are they gonna say? That they do it to earn a few more bucks for themselves?

Telling the truth, or at least refraining from lying, is always an option.
 

dihartnell

Posts: 28   +20
Agree.



Wasn‘t the point of mandating standardized phone charging connectors to reduce waste by eliminating the need to make a charger for each phone ? The chargers I have for my current phones should be just fine for the next ones, but I would definitely expect the chargers‘ removal to be reflected in the price.

Sadly, I don‘t think that will happen.


They might not be completely fine. My phone has 40W fast charging. I can only achieve that if I use its charger and its cable. If I even use a different USB c cable it won't achieve the 40watt fast charge. Reusing old chargers from a different phone may not be good for your new phone or at the least it wont give you the full fast charging you would expect.

Also does Samsung, Apple etc honour warranties if you have been using a different charger?
 

dihartnell

Posts: 28   +20
I am annoyed with the “sustainability” excuse... does anyone really buy that that is the reason? Clearly it’s just a way to cut costs... will the devices sold be cheaper going forward to account for the lack of charger/earbuds? I’m thinking no...

I don't buy that's the reason.
 

dihartnell

Posts: 28   +20
In the long run, this might end up being worse on the environment and backfiring on the phone makers. Without their good quality, certified chargers, many people will be purchasing the cheapest low quality third party chargers they find at Walmart or Amazon, which might end up lowering battery life or even causing an increase in exploding battery incidents. Of course the phone manufacturer will be blamed. And in the end it might end up resulting in more discarded batteries and more discarded chargers since these third-party chargers will also probably break sooner.



Apologistic nonsense. What kind of person throws away a perfectly good charger? I only throw away chargers if they are malfunctioning or not working at all. Even for people who aren't into tech, everyone I know keep all their chargers.


Cant really agree with the second point, even my local landfill is seeing a lot of charging devices etc come through it, but I do worry about the first point you have made. Using the correct charger is important for both longevity of your device and getting its full capabilities like fast charging etc, and I would like to know that Samsung etc will honour warranties if something goes wrong when using a different charger.
 

arrowflash

Posts: 324   +333
You are full of bull. It is absolutely not apologist if nonsense. People DO throw away millions of tonnes of chargers every year. This is a fact. I understand that you hate companies making profits but you ought not to let your hatred cloud the truth. Which is what has happened with you.


51,000 tonnes worth of phone chargers thrown away last year alone according to the EU.

Clearly you don’t actually understand what you are commenting on.

Ignoring your ignorant appeal to envy and ad hominem fallacious attacks, not that Medium blogposts by some random and without credible linked sources have one shred of credibility anyways - but even if it was a mainstream media article, I'm not lying, and I can only tell you about what I witnessed first hand. I've never seen anyone simply throw chargers away just because. People often even keep proprietary chargers for devices they don't own anymore.

And nowhere in that article you posted pointed out whether these discarded chargers were working or not.
 

Shadowboxer

Posts: 1,447   +1,044
Ignoring your ignorant appeal to envy and ad hominem fallacious attacks, not that Medium blogposts by some random and without credible linked sources have one shred of credibility anyways - but even if it was a mainstream media article, I'm not lying, and I can only tell you about what I witnessed first hand. I've never seen anyone simply throw chargers away just because. People often even keep proprietary chargers for devices they don't own anymore.

And nowhere in that article you posted pointed out whether these discarded chargers were working or not.
It’s a fact mate. There is thousands of tonnes of chargers thrown out every year. I can bombard you with more links of evidence if you are going to continue to be ignorant?
 

Gastec

Posts: 104   +47
It’s not an excuse at all. People throw away thousands of tonnes of chargers every year. I myself have dozens of old USB A chargers that will also inevitably end up in landfill.

Yes these companies will save money on chargers, that doesn’t mean it’s not the right thing to do.

Personally I don’t understand why people are demanding companies bundle every electronic device they sell with a charger. Well, unless they don’t care about what they throw away.
People should not throw away in a landfill their cables, chargers or old gadgets, they should put them in a drawer or a box and wait until a clear and proper way for recycling or selling them presents itself. The plastic will degrade over time but the metals in those cables can and SHOULD be reused.
 

Shadowboxer

Posts: 1,447   +1,044
People should not throw away in a landfill their cables, chargers or old gadgets, they should put them in a drawer or a box and wait until a clear and proper way for recycling or selling them presents itself. The plastic will degrade over time but the metals in those cables can and SHOULD be reused.
Completely agree. I think if these corporations stop throwing a free one in with every device they sell people will take a bit more care if their chargers.

I also think they could go further though. Like free trade in service for faulty existing chargers, then they could ensure the recycling of the faulty device.
 
I don't see the charger being removed as that big of a deal, I'd wager that the majority of us have a decent USB-C charger or two of some sort so it's not exactly the end of the world. Still, considering their earlier stance against Apple and their new "decision" to do the same thing is pretty funny.

Headphones being removed though is a bit stingy, I have quite a few high-end IEM's so any bundled headphones I get I usually donate to a friend who doesn't have a set or has a pretty terrible pair - I wouldn't throw them in to a landfill as that's just plain wastefulness.