Samsung's $1,900 Galaxy Z Fold 8 still has a serious problem with dust getting into its hinge

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Facepalm: Remember all the problems the original Galaxy Fold had with its folding display back in 2019? Seven years later, and with the device now in its eighth generation, debris getting inside through the hinge remains a problem – as iFixit has demonstrated.

iFixit's teardown video notes that the Galaxy Z Fold 8 has an IP48 rating, confirming it is protected against foreign objects 1mm in diameter and larger, and can withstand immersion in up to 1.5 meters of fresh water for 30 minutes.

The problem comes when the handset encounters objects smaller than 1mm, such as fine dust and sand. iFixit showed what can happen when they make their way into the hinge mechanism – and it's not good for owners of the $1,900 handset.

iFixit applied UV-reactive powder, some clumps of which measured around 0.04mm across, before repeatedly opening and closing the Fold 8. The hinge soon began making crunching and grinding noises, and the handset stopped opening normally.

The subsequent teardown revealed that the sealed parts of the phone had performed surprisingly well. The batteries, cameras, circuit boards, and other main electronics were remarkably clean. The exposed hinge, however, was caked in glowing powder, with debris packed throughout its many moving surfaces.

Samsung has previously treated the hinge and inner display as a single replacement assembly, meaning damage to either can require gutting the phone and replacing both.

Accessing one of the two batteries also requires removing the strongly glued outer display. The plastic bezel surrounding the folding screen broke into pieces during iFixit's teardown, and the delicate OLED did not survive.

There were some positives, including a modular USB-C port and pull pouches that made battery removal easier. However, iFixit could not find a genuine Fold 8 cover display sold directly to US repairers, while official Fold 7 parts remain scarce. iFixit gave the handset a provisional repairability score of 4 out of 10.

The findings bring to ming the original Fold disaster. Debris beneath one review unit's display created a bulge before the screen broke. A later teardown identified a 7mm bezel gap and openings around the spine that could let dirt enter.

Samsung has improved the Fold 8, including silicon-carbon batteries and titanium layers beneath the inner display. But until its hinge can keep out ordinary pocket debris, the phone's most important moving part remains a liability.

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The problem is with people who would spend $1,900 plus tax on a phone ... There's something wrong with that kind of thinking.
 
As much as I find folding phones dumb these tests aren’t really applicable to the real world

Yes they are, just not as fast as on the test. Maybe you're thinking as an "office person", most of the day in a very clean environment. But these phones can be bought by "everyone", meaning people that work outside or not so perfectly clean environments. When I go make sports or am in a trip through a lot of nature, my phone gets a lot of dust. Fortunately my S25 Ultra does not have these mundane issues. But on the long run (so after 3/4 years of ownership) it will be an issue...

I really want to buy one but:
- the perfect design is a "wider" Fold 8 ultra
- S27 Ultra (soon to be disclosured) camera set up
- even bigger battery
- much more dust and scratch hinge and internal screen
- price comes down or offer 16 GB of RAM and 1 TB of space for the present 256 GB price.

That may happen with Apple and Chinese competition, by the "Fold 10". ATM these models are too sensitive and have a lot of shortcomings.

It's not easy for small minded to resist the huge influencers pressure, all got 2 free units and some were flown to the event, so they will just talk nice things about them. Next year they will tell how the 9 much better than the 8 is and trash the 8 LOL.

I may even get the Fold 8 Ultra when it gets 40-50% discount or someone sells it cheap in second hand as new.
 
I mean you could justify it as replacing a phone and a tablet?
I paid $49 for a flip phone, and pay (T-Mobile) $15 per month plus tax, for unlimited texting and talking. Although, I had the texting turned off! It's a phone, its used to make and receive calls.
 
Yes they are, just not as fast as on the test. Maybe you're thinking as an "office person", most of the day in a very clean environment. But these phones can be bought by "everyone", meaning people that work outside or not so perfectly clean environments. When I go make sports or am in a trip through a lot of nature, my phone gets a lot of dust. Fortunately my S25 Ultra does not have these mundane issues. But on the long run (so after 3/4 years of ownership) it will be an issue...
I’ve lived in the middle of a desert for months for work. Not all dust is the same either and the amount that’s in a pocket isn’t that much. You have to remeber that building up over years isn’t the same as dunking it in all at once.
I really want to buy one but:
- the perfect design is a "wider" Fold 8 ultra
- S27 Ultra (soon to be disclosured) camera set up
- even bigger battery
- much more dust and scratch hinge and internal screen
- price comes down or offer 16 GB of RAM and 1 TB of space for the present 256 GB price.

That may happen with Apple and Chinese competition, by the "Fold 10". ATM these models are too sensitive and have a lot of shortcomings.

It's not easy for small minded to resist the huge influencers pressure, all got 2 free units and some were flown to the event, so they will just talk nice things about them. Next year they will tell how the 9 much better than the 8 is and trash the 8 LOL.

I may even get the Fold 8 Ultra when it gets 40-50% discount or someone sells it cheap in second hand as new.
Maybe it’s just not right for you and you should look at a small tablet then. Again I think the entire concept is dumb but there are uses for them. I’ve seen inspectors use folds for work as they’re more portable than a tablet and don’t need two devices plus they’re better for form filling than a standard aspect ratio phone.
 
Now I require an additional storage poccket. I need to keep my ceramic spark plug shards separate from both my pocketsand and my mobile device. Furthermore, it is imperative that the pocketsand does not intermingle with the spark plug shards, as these shards represent a significant investment. This situation presents a considerable challenge regarding the management of my phone..
 
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