Secret court ruling puts Obama's NSA crack-down in motion

By Justin Kahn ยท 6 replies
Feb 7, 2014
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  1. Three weeks ago President Obama announced his highly anticipated plans on NSA reform, which were designed to clamp down on mass data collection operations. New reports say at least two of the initiatives the President put forth are now being...

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  2. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,714   +3,695

    I still call BS to this whole "Obama announces NSA Reform". Just another crowd control attempt to silence everyone. As much as I hate to way it might work, I highly doubt anything will change.
    What exactly does this mean? Still looks like a giant loophole to me.
    Which party would that be? Google? :rollseyes:
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  3. Nima304

    Nima304 TS Guru Posts: 365   +81

    I agree with Cliffordcooley, these "reforms" mean little. They deal mostly with how the NSA is able to interact with the information it obtains, but doesn't stop the root problem of mass surveillance of people within our borders or abroad.
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  4. A ruling from a secret court, I feel freer already.
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  5. WithoutAnyMilk

    WithoutAnyMilk TS Enthusiast Posts: 29   +10

    All this means is a contractor will take over the database, and all employees will still have to obtain Secret level government clearance just to enter the building(s) where operations are performed, and only certain people will be granted access to the higher levels. Furthermore, if it is a private corporation contracted to the government that is running this, the corporation will just freely hand over the information upon all official requests, per the contract. There would be NO change here. This is just PR (read: propaganda) for the disorganized, easily-appeased and generally apathetic masses.

    Think I'm wrong? Look into what General Dynamics, a private corporation, does for the US government - specifically the DOD, the DOJ, and (*shudder*) the DHS. They supply the call centers for Obamacare and, amongst many other things, they scour the internet for political dissidents that speak critically or in poor regard of their government. I guess I'm screwed either way.
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  6. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,714   +3,695

    I'm probably in that boat with you. :)

    That is right, I'm smiling about it! I don't want to be found guilty of not caring enough to complain. I may not know what I'm complaining about, but I will not be the one to sit back and ignore everything as if it doesn't effect me.
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  7. fimbles

    fimbles TS Evangelist Posts: 1,185   +208

    Degrees of separation down to 2 you say.

    Googles " bacon number" shows how flawed this is. Im guessing the NSA will use "human" and "male or female" as a valid hop.

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