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Some ways to remove DRM protection

By DevilLee · 19 replies
Apr 3, 2008
  1. You may have purchased many songs from iTunes online store. It will be ok if you just play it on your computers with iTunes, or on your iPod. However, you may need to insert the music in a Power Point presentation, listen it on your mp3 player or set it as background music of your website or other legal personal usage, and you will find you are not allowed.
    All the iTunes music files are m4p format, it’s restricted. Is there any way to remove this DRM protection and convert the iTunes songs to widely used mp3 files?
    There are some ways that can achieve your goal.
    (1) In iTunes, these DRM protected songs can’t be burned to mp3 CD disc, however, you can burn them to audio CD, and then use an audio ripper to rip the tracks from the CD. It may be a waste of CD discs when you have plenty of songs which need to be converted.
    (2) Use the program named Noteburner. It has won the award of top DRM removing tool and the third place of audio converter by Top Ten Reviews, please refer to http://audio-converter-software-review.toptenreviews.com/. Noteburner will install a virtual CD burner on your computer, what you need to do is just to set it as default CD burner in iTunes. Open iTunes, operate by Edit --> Preference --> Advanced --> burning, and set Noteburn Virtual CD_RW as your CD burner. If you want to preserve the tags information, including artist, song title, album name, track number etc, you need to check the option “include CD text”. Not only m4p files can be converted, but also audio book in m4p format or AA format can be converted to mp3 in iTunes with Noteburner virtual CD burner.
    So you can finish all the jobs as the first method within this software and save many CD discs.


    Noteburner can also remove the DRM protection of wma audio files. In this case, you need to use Noteburner with Windows media player, and what you need to do is the same as in iTunes. However, because Windows media player doesn’t support CD text feature, the tags information of these wma audio files can’t be saved.

    (3) Use the program named Notecable. This program can also convert DRM protected iTunes songs and wma audio files. It works as a virtual sound card recording audio streams in background. The advantage of Notecable is that it’s very easy to use. Click “add” button to add the files you need to convert, click “settings” button to choose output format, bitrate, output folder, then click “convert” button to start conversion. If you want convert at a faster speed, you can click settings button and adjust the “convert acceleration” bar.
    (4) Use the program named Tunebite. It records the sounds with a real audio device, however, you need to import lame.exe to convert the files to mp3 files.
  2. LNCPapa

    LNCPapa TS Special Forces Posts: 4,247   +448

    This thread sounds almost like spam, but I'll bite. The problem with all of the applications you've mentioned is that it's transcoding the file - not simply removing the DRM. What you're doing in this process is taking a lossy (usually already low quality ~128kbps or ~192kbps) file - decompressing that to a wave which sounds NO better than the original lossy file, then recompressing the wave to a second lossy format losing even more data about the audio. Best case scenario is start with lossless and transcode to another lossless format - both files should should identical. Second best is transcode from lossless to lossy - you only degrade quality once. Worst case is transcode from a lossy format to another lossy format.

    Sorry, but I think even the hard of hearing can hear that a twice encoded lossy file doesn't quite sound right.
  3. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 12,492   +2,292

    Yeah Right.....

    After reading all that nonsense, I'd go out and spring for the CDs.

    Sorry but, how cheap do you have to be to go through all those contortions to wind up making bad copies that violate everybody's copyrights.
  4. Didou

    Didou Bowtie extraordinair! Posts: 4,274

    Making copies of songs you've bought digitally is not violating anyone's rights. To me if I purchase I'm entitled to do (almost) anything I want with it. Of course I can't just burn copies & sell them, but if I want copies on my MP3 players, on my car radio & on multiple PCs at home at the same time, I don't see why I shouldn't be allowed to do that.
  5. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 12,492   +2,292

    And I agree completely, well mostly

    Nor do I, but if you make that statement to the RIAA, you'll get a way different answer. They want to sell you the same s*** time after time, and they're willing to try and introduce legislation to enforce it.

    If people in general weren't so predisposed to stealing music in the first place the DRM might not be there in the first place! It never was in the past, now was it?
    We are bringing DRM on ourselves by our dependence on downloads and the computer in general. The MPAA and the RIAA now have us exactly where they wants us by way of our own doing. To paraphrase the old gun control adage; "when CDs are outlawed, only outlaws will have CDs".

    Going through all the contortions that DevilLee suggested to strip the DRM, can't help but degrade quality. (As was mentioned earlier by LNCPapa).
    I was under the impression that the policy of this site is, that the topic of removing copyright protection is taboo. This makes sense since circumvention of copy protection strategies just happens to be illegal. Bone up here; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMCA So, though your motives and heart may be pure, and I may even sympathize, we simply can't continue with this line of discussion. Myself I'm sort of paranoid, and I wonder sometimes if RIAA execs and copyright lawyers aren't some of the trolls that show up for these discussions.

    The entire issue of download versus a hard copy (CD or DVD) is a complex one.

    On one hand, downloading is "convenient", you can purchase only that particular song you want. But, with so many different codecs and players, buying movies and music in this way ties you to your computer, forcing you to own a computer just to now play movies and music through their respective systems. This is media that you (justifiably) believe you own, and should be entitled to transport to the reproduction system of your choice. BUT, the greed and governmental influence of the industry is enormous. If the industry manages to corral media in this way, look out.

    Using a computer as a CD or DVD player isn't "green"! Why fire up a 300 Watt $1000.00 computer to play a DVD, when a standalone player draws about 16 Watts and costs about $50.00. Worse still to allow yourself to be forced to do it that way!

    I still say be selective and buy the music you really, really want on CD, and rent the DVDS.
  6. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 10,729   +409

    You are right Captaincranky, this is a pretty grey area on the forums. I toyed with the thought of deleteing this thread when I first saw it. I'm sure LNCPapa did too.

    I think the reason we didn't is because we all have a distane for the RIAA and MPAA and this thread just wasn't harsh enough to bring out the delete button :)
  7. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 12,492   +2,292

    Paper....or.... Plastic..? or (Welcome to my Utopia...!)...

    The recording industry is reporting that the sale of CDs is down a good bit, due to online sales of downloaded music. It seems they simply can't find enough opportunities to to poor-mouth and whine. I'm not going to RSVP on their pity-party. That's final!
    Too many times have I been inflicted with an entire album of total crap, save for the hit. And you know the recording company knew it was s*** before it was even put on the record. You can bet the marketing staff wasn't hanging around the recording studio. Well, if they were they were deaf, brainwashed, and deluded.

    The current prices of blank media (on sale about .15 cents CD, 25 cents DVD) indicate just how little it actually costs to produce hard copy of movies and music.

    Sooooo..., what I'd like to see is record stores start to sell CDs by the track. You know, CD singles in a simple low cost paper envelope, with track specific pricing. The number one hit , three bucks, the song that only made it to 100 on the chart, seventy five cents. And obviously the "deluxe" entire CD in plastic for the price it is now. This would really keep the industry AND the artists honest, and the consumer free to do as he or she chose with the music they rightfully own. (Well, except of course running off a couple thousand copies and selling them).

    The way the industry is trying to go is eliminating all mechanical production costs and will ultimately leave the consumer lashed to a chair behind his computer and stuck with massive internet, computer payment, and download fees, but with nothing tangible to show for his money, just BS locked in the electronic ether. Well, I suppose if you don't count the nice, big, lardy a**. (see below).

    Jay Leno always comes down hard on things designed to make it more "convenient" to accomplish a given task. Like a refrigerator designed into a footstool so you don't have to get up and grab another beer. Somebody gets else rich, and you just get fatter, wow that's the good life.

    Part 2: Beware of Greeks bearing gifts.
    (one of cranky's fables)
    You're sitting on the corner, bored, and wondering what to do. Next thing you know some guy comes over, sits down next to you, and says "watch this". Then he gets up walks over to a car, and knocks off the hubcaps with a sledge hammer, puts them in a bag, sits back down and says. "now that's how you steal a hubcap". You think to yourself, "man this guy's an *****", and say "nah man, you do it like this", get up, walk over to another car with a screwdriver and gently pry the wheel covers off another car. "Now, that's how you steal a hubcap" says you.

    Later, while you're riding in the back of the paddywagon on the way to your arraignment you think to yourself, "but, wasn't that entrapment"?

    Good luck with that defense! You're going to need it!

    If anybody needs help with this analogy, please feel free to post back.
  8. DevilLee

    DevilLee TS Rookie Topic Starter

    As to me, 320 kbps is just fine. The programs have the options to set bitrate.
    I am sorry, this thread may cause some arguement.
  9. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 12,492   +2,292

    All threads cause a bit of "lively discussion" no need to worry about it. As long as you took something useful away from it, everybody should be happy!;)
  10. tech008

    tech008 TS Rookie

    Yes, agree, when you get something useful, the discussion is helpful and no need to be blamed.

    At least, I get to know this toptenreview website, and some tools like Noteburner/Notecable/Tunebite to convert DRM music, lol

    And I think, most people don't care whether those converted music is ok for the wi-fi devices. What they need is to play them on their pc, so a music between some bitrates, like 128-320bps, will be good enough.
  11. viktord

    viktord TS Rookie

    Well some might find this discussion unappropriate but I,for one find it quite welcomed.I mean god knows how many times have I been frustrated by this crappy drm that would't let me put my files on the mp3 player or on whatever other device I wanted.good job.
  12. CrayDeng

    CrayDeng TS Rookie

    If you don't share the output files with other, it is legal
    I always use a software called Daniusoft Music Converter to remove DRM from my protected songs, It doesn't matter, I just use them for myself.
  13. viktord

    viktord TS Rookie

    Cool, I use tunebite for my files.Of course, I also keep the files for myself, I don't convert the drm'ed ones to share them.At least I can use them on whatever device I need after converting 'em.
  14. mopar man

    mopar man TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 1,379

    I have grown to hate DRM. In fact, my dad, a while back, wanted the song that Lisa Marie Presley did as a video (duet between her and her dad), and we downloaded it from iTunes, to find out htat we couldn't evne burn it. He was upset...
  15. viktord

    viktord TS Rookie

    Well yeah, know how u feel.That's one of the reasons I went on and got me one of them converters.I mean I don't wanna use the files to share 'em on whatever p2p networks, I just wanted to be able to put them on my mp3 player or something like that and listen to music while I'm away from the computer.And of course as long as the file is drm'ed I can't do anything with it.
  16. Bobbye

    Bobbye Helper on the Fringe Posts: 16,335   +36

    I think it needs to be considered that it is not only music files that come under the DRM. Giving instructions on how to 'beat' DRM is not a subject for general information. There are times when enforcing or allowing the enforcement of the DRM is the right thing to do.
  17. viktord

    viktord TS Rookie

    Like for example when's the right thing to do?
  18. Bobbye

    Bobbye Helper on the Fringe Posts: 16,335   +36

    The "right thing to do" is to respect the legal and legitimate limits of DRM. For instance, there is someone who wants to open porn files and is being prevented from doing this by the DRM restrictions. Should I help him find a way around this? I don't think so.
  19. viktord

    viktord TS Rookie

    yeah, maybe you're right.That didn't really cross my mind.
  20. viktord

    viktord TS Rookie

    On the other hand, still, not everyone is looking to open porn or smth like that.There are also legitimate users of some filles who wanna use them on whatever device they need, without being restricted by that crappy drm.Why shouldn't they use some app like the one I was talking about to solve their problems?
    Need I remind u that drm is not really such a good thing,and there have been many cases in which it messes with your computer and it's not that easy to get rid of, besides reformatting your entire hard drive.
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