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Sony is immune to class-action suits? One PS3 owner begs to differ

By Matthew · 22 replies
Dec 21, 2011
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  1. Sony's had a tough year. After a series of humiliating security breaches, the Japanese firm stood as a punching bag for the tech community, disproving the old adage that any…

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  2. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 3,041   +793

    How can a judge dismiss the "Other OS" option? I know not loads of people used it but that's not the the point!

    The point was the fact they advertised the console running linux OS's, they advertised it as a Computer more than a games console. Whats worse is that i remember quite clearly them advertising the other OS option even after the update!

    Sony, you really do suck...
  3. slh28

    slh28 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,706   +172

    "a class-action suit disputing a "no class-action" clause"

    Haha, that's classic.
  4. MilwaukeeMike

    MilwaukeeMike TS Evangelist Posts: 2,837   +1,180

    I don't see how this guy's lawsuit can hold any water. He's suing because Sony changed the ToS, so does that mean anyone can sue anytime a company changes their ToS in a way we don't like? So an MMO changes their monthly fee, we can sue to go back to the way it was before? that's laughable.

    Is the ability to sue via a class action a constitutional right? If it is, it might only be on matters that affect our health or well-being, like a safety issue in a car or chemicals in baby bottles. Sony's online gaming is entertainment, and not important.

    let's be honest about class actions too... they're usually means for laywers to fund a Lexus, and they're great for the rest of us because maybe we'll get a check in the mail someday for some free money. I got one the other day... for $.30, no joke. A $.30 check.
  5. The only real way to get past any of this is to not buy Sony Playstations and simply stop using them altogether. If enough people did that things may change however I'm sure not enough people will do that, so they will continue to complain but get nothing by it. The other option is to simply accept this as part of doing business with Sony (or any large company) and enjoy your gaming.
  6. fimbles

    fimbles TS Evangelist Posts: 1,171   +203

    How to alienate customers, promote piracy, and kill your company.

    Paperback available soon :)
  7. Wendig0

    Wendig0 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,119   +121

    No, the suit is accusing Sony of unfair business practices, and violating consumer protection laws, which Sony has been doing, and getting away with, for years.
  8. matrix86

    matrix86 TS Guru Posts: 827   +32

    Before you know it, companies will have you sign a statement that says "by accepting employment at this establishment, I waive my right to enter into any lawsuit against this company, its employees and employers, or its affiliates." And when customers walk into retail stores, there will be a sign saying "by entering this establishment, you waive the right to enter into any lawsuit against this store, its associates, or its affiliates."

    So now, when you get screwed over, you'll just have to suck it up and deal with it! Gotta love big business :D
  9. Ranger1st

    Ranger1st TS Evangelist Posts: 348   +124

    If no one gets up to fight this tide of ' waived rights' sections in EULA's then more companies are going to start using them and as is the way with corporate greed, more companies will push the limits in what their ELUA requires.. do you think these companies will then do their best to make a solid product after that? with no fear of reprisals. ha. Games for the PC are already a joke with beta games shipping at full price only to have the 'updates' ship over the period of the next year. Seagate and maxtor have downgraded their warranty by a year. What to say the next Xbox won't be have a life span built in or something worse then the ever present RROD..

    These EULA's need to be challenged, even if they don't have a chance in hell at some point one may win.. then it's pen season on the rest of the companies.
  10. Please drive this dirty corporation out of business.
  11. you guys are all cry babies... if you DON"T LIKE not being able to sue them, move along... buy something else and stop crying already gezzz
  12. I already know you are misinformed. Make sure you don't buy any Xbox's too because there ToS is the SAME thing. Which one is worse.....a service that is free and you can't sue them (ps3) or a service that you pay for and you can't sue them (Xbox)?
  13. Playstation blows anyways, mine collects piles of dust since my xbox does everything much better. Only thing I use PS3 for nowadays is Blu rays and I was forced to get the update just to watch my movies. Last Sony console Ive ever have in my house.
  14. what does xbox do much better? A system that has no exclusives and next year it looks even worse for xbox owners.

    Next year exclusives for Xbox.....

    Halo 4
    Kinect garbage

    Next Year exclusives for PS3....

    Last of US
    Twisted Metal
    Star Hawk
    Last Guardian
    Ni No Kuni

    If you're a real gamer you would be on your ps3
  15. Sorry but if you were a real gamer you would be using a PC.
  16. thewind

    thewind TS Enthusiast Posts: 76

    I agree 110%! PC gaming rules! I just bought Batman Arkham City for $25 on steam! and the game is AWESOME! Also take Skyrim and mod it and it looks 100000000x better on pc. PC is the best! Also I can still play all my older games I like, like Max Pane 1 & 2, Starcraft, ect... Most people have a pcie slot in there computer so all they need is a good graphix card. Get a gtx 570 for $300 same as a councle and with the cheaper games you end up saving money. (Hook your PC up to your TV and have a wireless keyboard and mouse and your all set! or you can even have a xbox controller hooked up to! Theres games like Blur and Kane and Lynch that you can play in split screen using xbox controllers!)
  17. DokkRokken

    DokkRokken TS Rookie Posts: 267

    Playing Farmville, of course!
  18. dgoodchild

    dgoodchild TS Member

    I Think Sony May Be Overlooking Something...

    A lot of the people who would have seen and accepted the new EULA would be below the age of consent. In other words, they can't legally enter into an agreement like that in the first place. Of course once the update's in older users may have used the console but wouldn't have to agree to the updated terms in order to do so.
  19. Renrew

    Renrew TS Enthusiast Posts: 253   +19

    If you don't want to sign the agreement these companies should be forced to refund the full purchase price. Instead you're stuck with a $300.00 paperweight.
  20. I hate to say it (as a long time Sony Loyalist-AKA fanboy), but Sony is is a sh*tty company. Their PR has dropped off a cliff... It is almost comical. My guess is that the PS3 and associated problems (such as combating hacking, getting destroyed by MS and Nintendo, etc) put them so far behind the ball that they are in danger of having SCE spun off or shut down, and now they just dont care about being a "good guy" alternative.

    MS can handle billions in losses year after year to gain market share... I would guess that PS4 is the last Sony game machine we see unless it dominates the market. You can see the shift towards dropping it in how they handle customers.

    Bottom line, pending litigation makes getting rid of these SBUs much more expensive.
  21. You guys make me laugh. Why do you want to run other os on your PS3 anyway, to pirate and hack? It still has an internet browser and can stream from the PC and play amazing games with 3D capabilities. Microtheft advertised a console that didn't even work!
  22. EULA = signing a contract AFTER you bought the product. In most countries, once the box is open, you can't return it if you don't agree with the EULA.

    Completely unfair, but wait I can always pirate them isnt ?

    LOL and a big **** YOU to sony and friends !
  23. if i can't sue them...i'll simply hack them.



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