Start menu showed off in leaked Windows 9 images

[TheBigFatClown]

Or a F2P with micro-transactions

Charging a quarter to copy a file from one location to the next? Oh wow. This would be just as horrible as a subscription service and Operating-System-As-A-Service. Where you are completely dependent on Microsofts servers to execute a single task on your own computer. In other words, turns your super computer into a dumb terminal just like they existed 30+ years ago.

It seems we have entered a new era where Microsoft finds themselves with the task of remaining relevant in a time where their flagship operating system has reached a point where upgrading becomes less and less necessary. Unless you factor in all the scare tactics they use about security. I am sure it's a risk for businesses but I think that's something that can be mitigated by common sense and even 3rd party applications.

"Microsoft, We don't need you anymore....no, we don't need you anymore" * sung to the tune of Cher's "Believe"

 

[Guest]

The train wreck continues.

 

[9Nails]

I'm over the "flat" look for my OS. It was fun for a year or two. It might aid a MS Tablet that I never bought. But my desktop PC has plenty of CPU power and RAM. I'd like my desktop to have nice visuals. Please bring back Aero, and give me a visual look that's appealing.

 

[Guest]

I would prefer the start menu not be filled with advertisements. Is this too much to ask Microsoft?

Also, the start menu must be able to work with the arrow keys.

 

[Guest]

I'm over the "flat" look for my OS. It was fun for a year or two. It might aid a MS Tablet that I never bought. But my desktop PC has plenty of CPU power and RAM. I'd like my desktop to have nice visuals. Please bring back Aero, and give me a visual look that's appealing.

Exactly! And while they are at it, bring back Dreamscene from vista too. Whats the point of having a full tower PC with 20x the power of the tablet, just to look at a bland flat boring OS? Make using a PC a pleasure to use with fade effects and animations not capable on mobile. Give "snap-to" options for multiple monitors and multiple boxes(10+). Or even enable "flip-3d" to be snapped to the side of the screen. Not everyone wants a $2000 facebook machine! Give them a reason to spend the money on a top notch PC for a greater experience. Make sitting down at a PC a "wow" experience, not a "oh that looks just like my phone" experience.

 

[Teko03]

I would a prefer classic, but modern styled start menu (classic layout, but with a flat look and updated icons). I love the ideal of metro apps on the desktop, but I think it would work better maybe as an expanison of the "Task Bar", where you could swipe up or hover over an icon and the task bar would expand/move up to reveal one row of live tile icons. This would be great for desktop users for an "quick glance" view of frequently used tasks. I'd love this for checking e-mail, news headlines, calendar, etc. Similar to hovering over the "Show Desktop" button next to the clock. If interactive live tiles become a thing in Windows 9...this would acually give desktop users a reason to WANT to user the metro applications, even if its in more of a "widget" type fashion.

 

[Nobina]

I'm over the "flat" look for my OS. It was fun for a year or two. It might aid a MS Tablet that I never bought. But my desktop PC has plenty of CPU power and RAM. I'd like my desktop to have nice visuals. Please bring back Aero, and give me a visual look that's appealing.

Exactly! And while they are at it, bring back Dreamscene from vista too. Whats the point of having a full tower PC with 20x the power of the tablet, just to look at a bland flat boring OS? Make using a PC a pleasure to use with fade effects and animations not capable on mobile. Give "snap-to" options for multiple monitors and multiple boxes(10+). Or even enable "flip-3d" to be snapped to the side of the screen. Not everyone wants a $2000 facebook machine! Give them a reason to spend the money on a top notch PC for a greater experience. Make sitting down at a PC a "wow" experience, not a "oh that looks just like my phone" experience.

Well who forced you to buy $2000 PC? If you're gaming, it's not a waste, if you're not, then it's like you said a $2000 facebook machine and you are dumb for paying that much just for facebook.

 

[Capaill]

I'm on Win8.1 and was recently in the Control Panel, an area I have spent very little time in so far, looking at failed windows updates. In those sections, I saw repeated references to swiping in from the left to activate things. As I sat there looking at my 27 inch monitor with a mouse in my hand I wondered what exactly they mean? Surely Windows can detect I don't have a touch-sensitive screen connected and replace those references with mouse/keyboard instructions? Isn't that how software is intelligently designed? Haven't games been doing that for years? (Detecting what controllers are connected and adjusting on-screen prompts accordingly, even modifying them if you change the key mappings).

MS have gone so backwards with OS design that about the only thing they have left to do wrong is to block us from installing the 3rd party software that makes our lives easier. I'm sure they are working on that.

 

[Teko03]

I'm over the "flat" look for my OS. It was fun for a year or two. It might aid a MS Tablet that I never bought. But my desktop PC has plenty of CPU power and RAM. I'd like my desktop to have nice visuals. Please bring back Aero, and give me a visual look that's appealing.

They could continue with the flat design and implemnt aero along with it --- similar to IOS7.

 

[Teko03]

...Then came Vista, a huge disappointment....

In comparison to Windows 8, Vista was far from a "huge disappointment". It's only flaws were a GUI that was overly demanding for budget PC's, lack of driver support early on and stability issues --- drivers eventually came and stablity was fixed with Service Pack 1.

 

[Guest]

I still see there microsoft icons I really...really, not care.

 

[Jad Chaar]

Short answer, Not interested!

They should have kept or went back to Windows 7 visuals.

Yeah the new start menu looks really cluttered. As long as there is a way to turn it off, I am down. The performance improvements from the new OSs alone makes it worth upgrading (Windows 8 was an exception ).

 

[GhostRyder]

I still find it odd there is something to complain about with this style. You can turn it on, or off which means you either get classic or new. You get the best of both worlds for whatever tickles your fancy with 9, so I see no issues with this style. I will probably upgrade my desktop to windows 9 once I make sure drivers and stuff get updated to support it.

 

[RustyTech]

"and no doubt Microsoft will tweak and improve its design in the lead up to the release of Windows 9."

I doubt it.

I was fooled in getting Windows 8 - I will not be fooled again. As misor said, unless Win9 is going to sell for WAY less than they usually sell their OS for (around $20-$30 for FULL version), I'm out of the game for good; I won'd be upgrading until full and proper desktop support is implemented - I'll let them know with my wallet.

 

[Guest]

I read most of the comments in this thread and all I can say is that people like you that like to hold on to the past are keeping things from innovating.

It's really Microsoft's fault for allowing things to get this way by keeping a bunch of deadwood bloat since Win95 in the OS. It's inexcusable to keep 20GB worth of crap on a clean OS install just to please a few morons who cannot accept progress.

I call for MS to end support of Windows 7 by the time Windows 9 comes out and chuck it to the fire with XP. If morons want it support it, make them pay to stay behind and irrelevant. What are they going to do, change to Linux? They cannot handle the Start Screen... I want to see how they do with a blinking cursor on a terminal window.

 

[TheBigFatClown]

I read most of the comments in this thread and all I can say is that people like you that like to hold on to the past are keeping things from innovating.

It's really Microsoft's fault for allowing things to get this way by keeping a bunch of deadwood bloat since Win95 in the OS. It's inexcusable to keep 20GB worth of crap on a clean OS install just to please a few morons who cannot accept progress.

I call for MS to end support of Windows 7 by the time Windows 9 comes out and chuck it to the fire with XP. If morons want it support it, make them pay to stay behind and irrelevant. What are they going to do, change to Linux? They cannot handle the Start Screen... I want to see how they do with a blinking cursor on a terminal window.

Square corners and 4-bit colors came out about 20 years ago. You need to do some research before you talk about halting progress. Windows 8 is not progressive in its UI. It's crippling desktop users for no reason. If there were valid reasons, other than, making all devices look the same, then it would be at least understandable. I think you can achieve consistency across all devices without taking it to a literal extreme, which is what they are doing. Is it going to confuse people if there are round windows with 32-bit color on one device versus 4-bit color with square windows on another? I don't think so. So why do it? They have already conceded many things because they make sense. Windows 9 will boot into an environment that is most appropriate for the hardware it is running on. Mouse and keyboard make the most sense on desktops. Swipe interface makes more sense on a tablet. It's pretty simple.

Btw, your linux comment is being made at the worst possible time in the history of Linux. The distributions they are constantly releasing today are much more user friendly than they were in the past and it seems like they become more and more like that everyday. Just because Linux has a terminal window doesn't mean you have to use it. So your comment is a very weak premise if you were trying to make any valid point at all.

Oh, and it's funny how you think Windows 8 isn't bloated. But Windows 9 will be bloated because they added the start menu back? LOL. I like that. Do you tell jokes for a living? You should.

I don't hold onto the past. I hold onto the best. That's how I made it to Windows 7.

 

[Guest]

I don't care about minor annoyances. All I care about is the price.

 

[captaincranky]

Wow M$ "leaked" pictures of the "start menu". Couldn't we all just look at the ones we already have?

 

[Mantrhax]

Same error again ? that crap graphic menu ? ill stick with 7 forever

 

[cliffordcooley]

I still find it odd there is something to complain about with this style. You can turn it on, or off which means you either get classic or new.

Classic has always been a pathetic option. Unless they have changed how classic looks, I wouldn't want classic either. Classic has always resembled Windows 95. Which in my opinion is not much better than Win8, so how are we getting the best of both worlds?

 

[cliffordcooley]

I'm being locked out of posting. I changed my email and can't confirm, because the confirmation message is not being sent to my new or old email.

 

[captaincranky]

I'm being locked out of posting. I changed my email and can't confirm, because the confirmation message is not being sent to my new or old email.

If you have Yahoo mail, you might have to wait a few hours, like I do.

 

[cliffordcooley]

If you have Yahoo mail, you might have to wait a few hours, like I do.

I reported it a few minutes ago calling it a false alarm. Gmail was catching it as spam and not sending it to my client. If I had not been working in the browser setting everything up, I would not have seen what was taking place. When I noticed, there were about 8 messages where I had tried to resend the confirmation.

 

[DAOWAce]

Short answer, Not interested!

They should have kept or went back to Windows Vista visuals.

FTFY.

7's UI is a mess of flashing colors, strange transparency and sharp boxes; like they were transitioning to 8 but wanted to keep the familiarity of Vista.

Personally, that's most of the reason why I still use Vista over 7. The UI is abysmal, more than just how it looks, but also how it functions in some areas (Windows explorer and name truncation..namely, it has none and how items are arranged is a COMPLETE mess; plus they removed the status bar (well, made it useless, but it's still there) and file sorting from everything but details view, which I never use outside of search).

Been trying for ages to get the UI to not suck, but this is as close as I've come, and it's not enough at all: http://imgur.com/a/DXZ0G

 

[T1MeW4sTeR]

I'd like to know what happens when I click the settings button in the new start menu... will it open a window like the old control panel like I'd expect it to or will I get the fullscreen crap out of Windows 8?

Windows 8 is already able to do that. It annoys me a bit, when people bash on Win 8 without taking the time to get to know it.