Steve Jobs' thoughts on Android, apps
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spydercanopus
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Omfg, Androids killed Steve Jobs
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Quite possibly the best post in this thread.
It's quite sad how some people think he will only be remembered for "shiny gadgets". Ahem, he is responsible for a lot more than that. You need to look "outside the box" and understand that he had influence over the entire industry, just like Bill Gates did. Without Steve the technology world would not have advanced as fast as it did because for one, Apple provided opposition to Microsoft and other companies. Apple provided competition and motivation for other companies to advance themselves, and for Apple to also advance themselves when companies like Microsoft were overwhelming Apple. That's just one way to look at Jobs and to better appreciate his presence in the tech industry.
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I believe you struck the nail on the head. DEC Hihgher ups claimed he was "Impossible to deal with" would nearly be understated.
When I was 12 years old, my father worked for Steve at NeXT Shortly before they rolled out the NeXT Cube with 68030 procesor.
Now, my pops is a tolerant dude. Can't say I've really ever heard him talk trash about anyone, executive, or mail-room level. For my father to say that Steve was a Crybaby, tantrum throwing little child at any notion to modify or change one of his "godly" ideas on whats NeXT in Computing, well it's must have taken ALOT.
At a trade show in the early 90's in Vancouver BC (hosted at the Pan Pacific Hotel) I remember some of Steve's SE's and Senior sales people just going on and on about what the product could have been, had it had a person with great vision (Steve had great vision) and some common sense to listen to reason.
No matter how incredible the systems were at that time, its still hard to sell a computer any great number of people with a price tag that would eclipse $10k in the blink of an eye.
It was a very cool system that ultimately didn't take off because the "Crybaby In Charge" would not bend an inch on anything with the system design.
I stil have one. It's Mach OS was the lead in for OS X. The Cube I have was a prototyped 68040 model, with 2 Maxtor 660mb SCSI's, the 250mb Optical drive, and the (at that time) Gorgeous megapixel monochrome display.
I for one am sorry he passed, but I don't hold him in the same light others do.. He stomped some heads and backs on his way up, and oppressed many ideas to keep his in the limelight.
Just my $0.02,
When I was 12 years old, my father worked for Steve at NeXT Shortly before they rolled out the NeXT Cube with 68030 procesor.
Now, my pops is a tolerant dude. Can't say I've really ever heard him talk trash about anyone, executive, or mail-room level. For my father to say that Steve was a Crybaby, tantrum throwing little child at any notion to modify or change one of his "godly" ideas on whats NeXT in Computing, well it's must have taken ALOT.
At a trade show in the early 90's in Vancouver BC (hosted at the Pan Pacific Hotel) I remember some of Steve's SE's and Senior sales people just going on and on about what the product could have been, had it had a person with great vision (Steve had great vision) and some common sense to listen to reason.
No matter how incredible the systems were at that time, its still hard to sell a computer any great number of people with a price tag that would eclipse $10k in the blink of an eye.
It was a very cool system that ultimately didn't take off because the "Crybaby In Charge" would not bend an inch on anything with the system design.
I stil have one. It's Mach OS was the lead in for OS X. The Cube I have was a prototyped 68040 model, with 2 Maxtor 660mb SCSI's, the 250mb Optical drive, and the (at that time) Gorgeous megapixel monochrome display.
I for one am sorry he passed, but I don't hold him in the same light others do.. He stomped some heads and backs on his way up, and oppressed many ideas to keep his in the limelight.
Just my $0.02,
You cant blame him. however, his reaction wasn't correct. He was mad that he made a great innovation and that someone else made another one based heavily on his. However, he should have been more flattered seeing how his innovation sparked a whole new cell phone age.
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well said.
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The pain medicine and inability to control his sugar levels caused Steve to become delusional.
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Jibberish18
I've never liked Jobs. People admired him, and that's fine but he was every bit a corporate "CEO" as any other and apparently he was a giant hypocrite.
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Also, iOS5 now has a feature that I first saw on Android. The whole slide down screen. Not sure if Android made it but either way. I don't even like Android btw.
aj_the_kidd
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I always assumed he didnt like Android, but to think he was going to destroy, well try to destroy, Android becuase he thought it was a stolen product was a bit much. Gotta say i was a little disapoint by his remarks and I lost some respect for the guy.
Yeah Apples notification center is a copy of android notification bar, which its had since 1.5 cupcake or even earlier i think.
A lot of UI design seems to enter consumer consciousness. It's like saying that Company X was the first to put dials for temperature on the front of their ovens, so no one else can copy that and have to place non dial controls in other illogical locations on the device. Given the UI functionality shared across computer operating systems nowadays, it's pretty much accepted that you have icons on a desktop that you click with a mouse, some kind of task bar etc. etc. Smartphones are just computers after all and their form factor strongly dictates the UI layout and design for them. Other than that they are simplified UIs based on desktop computer UIs (that Apple, Windows, Linux distributions and pretty much any other OS uses today) that are carved in stone. There are revolutionary ideas that change the path technology takes, and then there are logical almost unavoidable evolutionary ideas. I mean... Smartphone OS's have finger tip sized icons that work well with a touch screen. What other logical evolution of the phone touchscreen interface is there? All the devices have a Phone and Calendar etc. Again there are only so many logical choices for a recognisable icon to represent each functions purpose. Really software UIs can be likened to hardware interfaces of years gone by. You can't stop other companies from putting door handles on doors at the optimum level, on the outer edge of a door where it makes it the easiest to open the door just because "we did it first".
If you look back I remember my first Palm Pilot PDA's OS at the turn of the millennium had icons spaced out like on todays smart phones. The first phones with colour displays had "Applications" folders with specific applications although limited to calculator, calendar etc. having downloadable apps is just an extension/evolution/reworking of this. I think most people struggle to not let success go to their heads, I'd imagine it would be an even harder task when that success is of the magnitude of Apple's. I've been using mobile device UIs that have similarities to smartphone/iphone UIs for over a decade.
If all the money and effort in these ridiculous and often personal wars was invested in improving products and services mankind would benefit rather than a bunch of lawyers lining their pockets.
If you look back I remember my first Palm Pilot PDA's OS at the turn of the millennium had icons spaced out like on todays smart phones. The first phones with colour displays had "Applications" folders with specific applications although limited to calculator, calendar etc. having downloadable apps is just an extension/evolution/reworking of this. I think most people struggle to not let success go to their heads, I'd imagine it would be an even harder task when that success is of the magnitude of Apple's. I've been using mobile device UIs that have similarities to smartphone/iphone UIs for over a decade.
If all the money and effort in these ridiculous and often personal wars was invested in improving products and services mankind would benefit rather than a bunch of lawyers lining their pockets.
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Who are we to judge any body. Chill out people just enjoy what's happening.
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and then we all know that Sony stole the whole invention from a german guy!
Sony did not invent the Walkman (apart of its name) - the principle was laid down long long time ago . Got it folks? The Spiegel had once an article about it.
Sony did not invent the Walkman (apart of its name) - the principle was laid down long long time ago . Got it folks? The Spiegel had once an article about it.
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