The Best GPU for Every Price Point

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I'll wait for RDNA4 to see how much their RT hardware has improved and if they also finally introduce a hardware AI upscaler like DLSS. FSR2 can look good in some games but others have too many distracting artifacts or trails.
 
I wouldn't hold my breath for this. Even if they provide the hardware it would take 6 to 9 months for drivers and software. Based on +20 years of history ATI+AMD, it would take them at least 3 release cycles to provide all on launch in order for me to think about getting a GPU from them. Just look at RDNA3 and FSR3 9 months delay....
 
Because AMD is missing "important" features like DLSS and has slower RT. Also G-Sync support is missing.

;D
honestly I use none of those features even with my nvidia cards; they are meaningless in action to my perception as far as FSR/DLSS and incredibly gaudy/unrealistic as far as RT. I have a 7900XT, RTX 3080Ti, RTX 3080, RTX 2080Ti, RTX 2080 as far as RT capable cards, but I will never use it. It's the new overblown bloom of the 00s.
 
Because AMD is missing "important" features like DLSS and has slower RT. Also G-Sync support is missing.

;D

FSR is Industry Standard and everyone experiences slower RT, bcz unless you have a $1,800 dGPU, turning on Ray tracing means slower game play. (dERP!)

That is why nobody does it, unless they have a 4090.


NVidia is missing other standards like DisplayPort2.1, etc..
 
FSR is Industry Standard and everyone experiences slower RT, bcz unless you have a $1,800 dGPU, turning on Ray tracing means slower game play. (dERP!)

That is why nobody does it, unless they have a 4090.


NVidia is missing other standards like DisplayPort2.1, etc..

FSR is literally years behind on DLSS/DLAA and this won't change anytime soon as AMD has maxed out FSR for now. They talk about going the AI route as well. FSR in its current state has way too much shimmering, artifacts and ghosting compared to DLSS which is close to perfect and have been for a looong time. Even Intels XeSS beats FSR overall at this point.

There's tons of FSR vs DLSS comparisons and DLSS wins every time. Also, DLSS has much better support. Almost all new games have DLSS and more RTX features. There's 500+ titles with RTX support now.

Radeon 7000 series don't support DP 2.1 UHBR20. AMD forgot to mention this haha. UHBR10 and 13.5 is literally useless because in most cases you will be using DSC and then DP 1.4 would have been enough anyway. It was all done because of marketing.

The first true DP 2.1 UHBR20 GPU will be RTX 5090 in Q4.

Be careful with marketing slides lol.
 
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Crysis was a single player also and created a GPU upgrade mania at the time. Don't see this with Cyberpunk now or RT/PT.
There are many more very good looking games/game engines now that do not burden GPUs like crysis did at the time.
1080p was the thing back then. Now, at 1080p you can run like most games with near top graphics on middle tier cards.
Cyberpunk is simple not the only one now. And ever since U5 came out, there are more and more games that beat CP being more beautiful and advanced.
 
FSR is literally years behind on DLSS/DLAA and this won't change anytime soon as AMD has maxed out FSR for now. They talk about going the AI route as well. FSR in its current state has way too much shimmering, artifacts and ghosting compared to DLSS which is close to perfect and have been for a looong time. Even Intels XeSS beats FSR overall at this point.

There's tons of FSR vs DLSS comparisons and DLSS wins every time. Also, DLSS has much better support. Almost all new games have DLSS and more RTX features. There's 500+ titles with RTX support now.

Radeon 7000 series don't support DP 2.1 UHBR20. AMD forgot to mention this haha. UHBR10 and 13.5 is literally useless because in most cases you will be using DSC and then DP 1.4 would have been enough anyway. It was all done because of marketing.

The first true DP 2.1 UHBR20 GPU will be RTX 5090 in Q4.

Be careful with marketing slides lol.

Given UHBR 13.5 supports up to 54 Gbps I am unsure why you think a lack of the 80 Gbps UHBR 20 is an issue (you need 35.83 Gbps for 4k 144Hz which HDMI 2.1 and DP 2.0 could handle)?
 
If you live near a Micro Center and you want a stellar GPU for $800, check to see if they have any 3090Ti FE (refurbished) cards for sale ($799.99).

$200 cheaper than a 4080S and only about 15% behind it in performance. Might be worth a look if you're interested and have a Micro Center near you.
 
If you live near a Micro Center and you want a stellar GPU for $800, check to see if they have any 3090Ti FE (refurbished) cards for sale ($799.99).

$200 cheaper than a 4080S and only about 15% behind it in performance. Might be worth a look if you're interested and have a Micro Center near you.
The 3090 Ti is way less efficient, you'll want to go with the more 4080 even at $200 more under most conditions. For one thing you can save at least $75-$100 of that on the PSU alone. Most people will need to upgrade their PSU to 1000W to use the 3090 Ti, where you can get by with a 750W PSU in most cases with the 4080. The average power draw for the 3090 Ti is 150W more than the 4080. I have a 4080 and I have a 750 W PSU with absolutely no issues, granted I have an AMD CPU, with something like an i9 I would probably want to upgrade my PSU to 850W, but I still wouldn't need a 1000W PSU.
 
I ordered my first high end card which was a 3090, then I bought a 4090 and I might buy a 5090. its not that expensive when you are a bit older
Difference being the 3090 was probably around the £1K mark MSRP. I’m not wrong with what I posted a while back and it’s still not wrong now - the 4090 is a terrible price for the performance:

- RTX 4080 Super is average 29% slower than the 4090 yet it’s 50% cheaper.
- RX 7900XTX is average 31% slower than the 4090 yet it’s 58% cheaper.

Just because they make the card in low volumes and it sells out, doesn’t justify it being a sales success.
 
And for those of us that AI upscale and enhance older videos which would be better? Video cards are not just games these days.

Also a review about price v performance a simple point chart would be beneficial.
 
LOL you work at AMD now? Got some insider info or is this just more fanboy guessing? Thanks for saving me the time reading the rest of your post though 👍
Truth hurt I see

It is pretty much fact that FSR is lacking behind both XeSS and especially DLSS/DLAA

Hence why AMD looks to revamp FSR completely with AI approach just like DLSS
 
And for those of us that AI upscale and enhance older videos which would be better? Video cards are not just games these days.
Application specific, but if you use Topaz Video AI as I do (Radeon 6950XT), you’ll find this interesting:


The TLDR:
- Last gen (RX 6000 series and RTX 30 series) Radeon compute most models faster overall. RX 6800XT wins over RTX 3080, RX 6950XT wins over RTX 3090 Ti etc…
- Current gen, tipping point occurs around £800 area. Up to and including the RX 7900 series and RTX 4070 series it’s a win for Radeon again. Going above this, the RTX 4080 and 4090 are well ahead.

Lastly, don’t overlook the CPU as that is very important too. You need a strong Ryzen 7 5000 series or Intel 12th gen i7 or better to get the best out of it with a fast GPU.
 
If you live near a Micro Center and you want a stellar GPU for $800, check to see if they have any 3090Ti FE (refurbished) cards for sale ($799.99).

$200 cheaper than a 4080S and only about 15% behind it in performance. Might be worth a look if you're interested and have a Micro Center near you.

3090 Ti is not stellar, it was a rip off (launching a few months before 4090 which is MUCH BETTER) and uses A TON of power. Way more than 4090.

Also 3090 Ti support DLSS 3 and Frame Gen and gets less focus from Nvidia in terms of drivers and optimization in new games.

I would not even pay 599 for a 3090 Ti at this point.

 
Truth hurt I see

It is pretty much fact that FSR is lacking behind both XeSS and especially DLSS/DLAA

Hence why AMD looks to revamp FSR completely with AI approach just like DLSS

There's no truth in guessing and trying to predict the future which is what you posted:

FSR is literally years behind on DLSS/DLAA and this won't change anytime soon as AMD has maxed out FSR for now.

Please tell me how you pretend to know that FSR is "maxed out". It's statements like this which make everything else easy to skip over.
 
Truth hurt I see

It is pretty much fact that FSR is lacking behind both XeSS and especially DLSS/DLAA

Hence why AMD looks to revamp FSR completely with AI approach just like DLSS

Truth is, that AMD's FSR is thee Gaming Industry Standard and doesn't require proprietary $800+ hardware to work.

Matter of fact, FSR runs on the 1080ti as good as the 2080ti... where you need upscaling the most (old, low-end GPUs)... when NVidia themselves don't even offer their older customers upscaling. (DLSS is just for the people who are lost on marketing.)

As the Gaming Industry moves forward, AMD's FSR3.1 will be an even bigger role..! (see GDC 2024)


People who PAY extra for upscaling are thee laughing stock of the gaming industry... why buy a new card for upscaling...? It doesn't make sense, when you old card can upscale for free.

You buy a new card to get away from upscaling.
 
Difference being the 3090 was probably around the £1K mark MSRP. I’m not wrong with what I posted a while back and it’s still not wrong now - the 4090 is a terrible price for the performance:

- RTX 4080 Super is average 29% slower than the 4090 yet it’s 50% cheaper.
- RX 7900XTX is average 31% slower than the 4090 yet it’s 58% cheaper.

Just because they make the card in low volumes and it sells out, doesn’t justify it being a sales success.
The 3090 never actually sold for 1000, it was always £1,600+ because there were no other cards available. I wanted a 3080 but they didn't come back for a year or more later due to chip crisis. This is the only reason I bought a 3090.... Then later it paid off since the last of us and other PS ports needed stupid amounts of VRAM, I then had a motherboard failure so sold my 3090 system and bought a 4090.... I might as well stay in the top performance tier now as its become a habit :)
 
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