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just like you are saying there could be many AMD cards sitting in shipping containers at ports... or scalpers.
What part of, "compound conditional verb", was unclear? "Conditional", indicates "speculative". So, if speculative constitutes, "making stuff up", then I'm guilty as charged.

Now are "RDNA 3 "Nave 31s" just the GPU, or are they full cards, yes or no? Because, that what the documentation you've linked states.
Instead of admitting to yourself, that AMD shipped and sold more 7900 series, than nVidia has 4080's.
I don't have anything, "to admit to myself", because I patently don't give a crap who sold more cards. You're simply trying to imprint your concerns, desires, wishes, opinions, preferences, and whatnot, on me.

"AMD sold more cards than Nvidia", whoopee.! I simply don't care. Try to wrap your head around that, if you're able.
 
The point is... why glean all your wild, off-beat speculations... ?

Specially when Kyle Bennet told you otherwise. You clearly didn't think AMD outsold nVidia, so you went on a tangent to speculate everything else, scalpers, shipping containers, etc.. instead of admitting that AMD is selling more 7900 series, than nVidia is selling 4080s.



And yes.. you care, because you are still sore about overspending on a GPU bcz marketing, instead of actual performance.
 
Specially when Kyle Bennet told you otherwise. You clearly didn't think AMD outsold nVidia, so you went on a tangent to speculate everything else, scalpers, shipping containers, etc.. instead of admitting that AMD is selling more 7900 series, than nVidia is selling 4080s.
Please stop trying to pass yourself as a mind reader. Please stop imagining you know what I think.

How about if we put this in bold, "I don't give an aeronautical intercourse into a rotating pastry who sold more cards, AMD or Nvidia".
And yes.. you care, because you are still sore about overspending on a GPU bcz marketing, instead of actual performance.
I guess that what the whole "m3tavision" triptych is about. Imagining that you can read people's minds, emotions, even into their wallets, all the while knowing what's "best for them".

Try to comprehend this, my next computer doesn't have to be better than yours. It only has to be better than the best one I have now. And, like it or not, there's not going to be one single AMD part in it.

More succinctly put, "screw the red box, and the horse it rode in on".

This message has been bought to you joyfully, by a 13 tear old Intel Pentium E6300, Gigabyte G-41 matx mobo, a paltry 4 GB of RAM, and no graphics card whatsoever, running the latest version of Mint Linux.

Hey, whatever gets a particular task done, is all you need.
 
Bro...
You say things... then pretend you didn't say them... all the time. WHERE.. did you glean ur information from..?

- "What I've been able to "glean" from the rumor mill, is AMD simply didn't build, or wasn't able to build, enough of them to meet potential demand." - quote Cranky


I don't have to defend my linked sources, I put them out there to prove you are full of it.. and challenged you to show us where you gleaned your^ rumors from...

And when u couldn't <-- I said they came from your butt.
 
My Microcenter has 8 7900XT turds laying around, over a dozen 4080 Bars of gold on the shelves, but no 7900XTX's anywhere to be found. Kind of wanted to start a new build with that free ddr5 thing they have going....
You might want to have a look at this book, before you post things like this in AMD territory:
 
Bro...
You say things... then pretend you didn't say them... all the time. WHERE.. did you glean ur information from..?

- "What I've been able to "glean" from the rumor mill, is AMD simply didn't build, or wasn't able to build, enough of them to meet potential demand." - quote Cranky


I don't have to defend my linked sources, I put them out there to prove you are full of it.. and challenged you to show us where you gleaned your^ rumors from...

And when u couldn't <-- I said they came from your butt.
You still haven't answered my question, "is the RDNA 3 "Navi" a ready to install video card, or just the GPU? Because if it's just the GPU then, no matter who sold more, 200,000 of them haven't been sold. This figure is from your link, which you're now conveniently ignoring.

This keeps popping up in threads about AMD's CPUs, "I wanted an xxxxx Ryzen, but I nobody's got one." So, you can put the cart before the horse or vice-versa. Either they didn't build enough of them, or they sold too many. It's kinda moot if you can't buy one.

The real question is whether or not you were actually going to buy one of the 7900's, or were you just window shopping so you'd have something to piss and moan about when you couldn't find one?
 
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You are so insufferable

It is right in the article I linked. Kyle Bennet is a well known luminary in the tech world. It's like you have never heard of HARD OCP....


"As per Kyle, the total number of Navi 31 GPUs that AMD is planning to ship this quarter is around 200,000 units which are far greater than what NVIDIA has shipped so far for its Ada Lovelace GPUs. It's stated that there will be over 30,000 reference cards on shelves on launch day so it is likely that the rest of those GPUs are going to AIB partners who have a huge lineup of custom cards ready to hit shelves starting Mid of December."
 
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You are so insufferable

It is right in the article I linked. Kyle Bennet is a well known luminary in the tech world. It's like you have never heard of HARD OCP....


"As per Kyle, the total number of Navi 31 GPUs that AMD is planning to ship this quarter is around 200,000 units which are far greater than what NVIDIA has shipped so far for its Ada Lovelace GPUs. It's stated that there will be over 30,000 reference cards on shelves on launch day so it is likely that the rest of those GPUs are going to AIB partners who have a huge lineup of custom cards ready to hit shelves starting Mid of December."
OK, 30.000 from 200,000 still leaves 170.000 unaccounted for..

Then he says" >so it is likely< (This is another conditional, speculative adverb), that the rest of those GPUs are going to AIB partners who have a huge lineup of cards ready to hit shelves starting Mid of December."

So, my interpretation of "starting", is "beginning". So, it's the middle of December right about now. And those 170,000 cards should be appearing soon, but they're not here yet.

If they already sold out of the reference cards, that explains the "sold out status". It does, after all, take partner's, time to affix the GPU, solder the GPU to the board, fit the cooler in place, do QC, box up the cards, and ship them to retailers. That these 170,000 cards are going to pop up all over the world in one night is akin to believing in Santa Claus. But then these are red boxes, and Rudolph does have a red nose, so maybe, just maybe.......Still, , assembling complex, delicate electronic devices is not the type of job description you can hire, "part time holiday workers" to do. Stating what should be the obvious, "there are only so many hours in a day". And the partners only have "X" amount of skilled workers.

So, keep your pants on, and keep checking you stocking, "hung by the chimney with care".

Now I have one final question, "can you read"? Because Mr. Kyle is doing some speculating of his own, although perhaps not as fanciful as mine.

BTW, AMD's board partners, Gigabyte, Asus, and MSI are all headquartered in Taiwan. So is TSMC. Which does expedite transfer between them. Zotac is in Hong Kong. All have offices in the US. Which makes "stuck in the port of Los Angeles", possibly not quite so outrageous
 
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You are so insufferable

It is right in the article I linked. Kyle Bennet is a well known luminary in the tech world. It's like you have never heard of HARD OCP....
As I've already explained to you in some detail, why I wouldn't be in a pub to be beat up by you, nor in a gamers lounge to be laughed out of, for my purchase of a GTX-1660 ti.

Since I just humbly screw and plug parts together, don't do any bench marking, and just use a machine for entertainment purposes, why in god's name would I even want to know of "HARD OCP", let alone go there?

"Insufferable", is a two way street Bro.
 
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OK, 30.000 from 200,000 still leaves 170.000 unaccounted for..

Then he says" >so it is likely< (This is another conditional, speculative adverb), that the rest of those GPUs are going to AIB partners who have a huge lineup of cards ready to hit shelves starting Mid of December."

So, my interpretation of "starting", is "beginning". So, it's the middle of December right about now. And those 170,000 cards should be appearing soon, but they're not here yet.

If they already sold out of the reference cards, that explains the "sold out status". It does, after all, take partner's, time to affix the GPU, solder the GPU to the board, fit the cooler in place, do QC, box up the cards, and ship them to retailers. That these 170,000 cards are going to pop up all over the world in one night is akin to believing in Santa Claus. But then these are red boxes, and Rudolph does have a red nose, so maybe, just maybe.......Still, , assembling complex, delicate electronic devices is not the type of job description you can hire, "part time holiday workers" to do. Stating what should be the obvious, "there are only so many hours in a day". And the partners only have "X" amount of skilled workers.

So, keep your pants on, and keep checking you stocking, "hung by the chimney with care".

Now I have one final question, "can you read"? Because Mr. Kyle is doing some speculating of his own, although perhaps not as fanciful as mine.

BTW, AMD's board partners, Gigabyte, Asus, and MSI are all headquartered in Taiwan. So is TSMC. Which does expedite transfer between them. Zotac is in Hong Kong. All have offices in the US. Which makes "stuck in the port of Los Angeles", possibly not quite so outrageous
*b4 I begin
(You got caught making up a rumor and I threw actual references at you... and you pretend to not understand... because you are claiming u don't know what things mean..? )



Again... why so insufferable...
You can't even follow things in chronological order, when spelled out for you.

The following was on Dec 11th... that confirmed an earlier rumor that popped up around Dec 3rd, that AMD has indeed shipped more GPUs than nVidia.... (even though nVidia's cards were released weeks before..) <---- Do you understand that?

Kyle is clearly confirming this. But he goes on to add detail and and times frames....

"As per Kyle, the total number of Navi 31 GPUs that AMD is planning to ship this quarter is around 200,000 units which are far greater than what NVIDIA has shipped so far for its Ada Lovelace GPUs. It's stated that there will be over 30,000 reference cards on shelves on launch day so it is likely that the rest of those GPUs are going to AIB partners who have a huge lineup of custom cards ready to hit shelves starting Mid of December."



Most People heard/saw Kyel's Dec 11th post^.. it was covered everywhere.

Gamer's also saw the news of RTX 4080 sales stalling... and an increase on returns. That scalpers were getting owned. In anticipation to the new RDNA3 models coming.

AMD had previously stated in November that THEY will have over 30k STOCK units on the shelves in stores upon release (Noted in the quote above).. What we didn't know from Kyle's Tweet, was the Official launch of the AIB Partner cards.

Understand, we all knew 200k cards were coming, but we didn't know WHEN...

When RDNA3 was released on Dec 13th, AMD announced that the AIB cards are already in Reviewer's hands.. and that they will be released in 2 days. <---- Do you understand this?

-Dec 13th 7900 stock/reference series goes on sale.
-Dec 15th AIB Partners cards go on sale.
-Today Dec 17th. All of the stock reference cards and all of the AIB Partner cards are SOLD OUT everywhere. (About 200k cards)

How did you miss the fact that AIB Partner models were released... after reviewers had Benchmarks? AMD staged the Stock Reference model and the AIB Partner models, two days apart... to give Consumers/Gamers a choice between the stock/reference $999 version, or choose to buy an OC'd AIB version of the 7900 Series.

Two of the most notable AIB cards were the PowerColor Red Devil & the XFX Merc310... which sold out within 5m. They are still SOLD OUT at Best Buy, NewEgg, Amazon and everywhere else.



All of this^^ to suggest to you that if you do not know something, or have a clue do not make rumors up. You have not provided us with a source of your rumors, but I went to great length to describe to what was going on the weeks leading up and for the release, that you simply could not place in your head... bcs it doesn't fit your narrative.

You are so behind the times, you didn't even know AIB Partner cards are here... and already went.

And I quote: Dec 17th
" So, it's the middle of December right about now. And those 170,000 cards should be appearing soon, but they're not here yet. " -Cranky.

Self help guide <---
 
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You might want to have a look at this book, before you post things like this in AMD territory:
Thanks. Look who's still pissed off from the last post.
 
Sometimes it's nice to have the best and that should certainly keep you going for a few years (as long as you plug it in properly!!).
I bought a 3090 FE at launch just before the world went nuts - I thought it was huge - some of the 4090s coming out now dwarf it!
I believe they all do expect the 2 slot air blower design and the 4090 suprim liquid, which is similar size to the 3090 ultra hybrid liquid that fit in my h210 itx case. If you are limited in space there isn't much options unfortunately outside a custom loop. They definitely overkilled the cooling which can be a good thing if you have the space for it.
 
Who cares what Kyle Bennett thinks, anyway? He’s been a biased and sometimes hysteric goon many times before (and let’s be honest, HardOCP was pretty much a mess of a site with few articles of note outside of overclocking and kid stuff like that).

Six months down the road we‘ll have actual sales figures. And I reckon you’ll find 7900 not making much headway recapturing market share.
 
Who cares what Kyle Bennett thinks, anyway? He’s been a biased and sometimes hysteric goon many times before (and let’s be honest, HardOCP was pretty much a mess of a site with few articles of note outside of overclocking and kid stuff like that).

Six months down the road we‘ll have actual sales figures. And I reckon you’ll find 7900 not making much headway recapturing market share.
I've been "suggesting", "imagining", "speculating", call it what you will, that people should consider going back to floor standing full towers, with provisions for twin PSUs, and yeah might as well throw in a couple of spaces for AIO coolers as well. Anything less, and god forbid, you might drop a frame here and there. :rolleyes:

Am I stark raving mad, or just throwing this out there to up the click count? Meh, who knows, who cares.
 
Six months down the road we‘ll have actual sales figures. And I reckon you’ll find 7900 not making much headway recapturing market share.
Don't let the Radeon militants around here catch you uttering such blasphemy. Blow some sunshine around instead. For example, "Radeon cards will be up to over 50% market share by no later than Q2 2023". You can even spice it up a bit more; "that dastardly Huang dude has it coming, and I'll be thrilled when he gets it, full measure".
 
Self deprecation is all u have left... people are not going to feel sorry for you when u got caught lying and starting rumors.
 
Who cares what Kyle Bennett thinks, anyway? He’s been a biased and sometimes hysteric goon many times before (and let’s be honest, HardOCP was pretty much a mess of a site with few articles of note outside of overclocking and kid stuff like that).

Six months down the road we‘ll have actual sales figures. And I reckon you’ll find 7900 not making much headway recapturing market share.
He does still know a lot of people in the industry and likely has better sources than a random YouTuber desperate for attention. He had no need for clicks anymore, so if he throws something out, I'll believe he got it from a decent source. Whether the source is blowing smoke up his ***, time tells.
 
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Self deprecation is all u have left... people are not going to feel sorry for you when u got caught lying and starting rumors.
Well, I don't expect they would. But, I was merely exercising "free speech". Can't hate on a fella for that, can ya?

All kidding aside, I'm doubly disappointed, even woe begotten, since I missed out not only on getting a 7900, but Trump's "Power Ranger" NFTs sold out before I could scoop up the entire set.:(

He does still know a lot of people in the industry and likely has better sources than a random YouTuber desperate for attention. He had no need for clicks anymore,
Well, it turns out I don't even understand YouTube. How sad is that? I thought a YouTuber always needed more clicks and more patreons. But now it turns out that, "don't forget to ring that bell and subscribe". is for our benefit, not theirs.

Anyway, if Kim Lardasshian, can launch her own cosmetic line by constantly and frivolously bombarding her audience with "selfies", I see no logistical reason why Mr. Kyle couldn't launch his own line of signature video cards, via the inside information fast track. Plus, he could honestly say, "you can only get these here at my channel". (y) (Y)

You would just tack on a couple hundred bucks for your signature onto a basically stock card. Guitar players do it all the time
 
````Well, it turns out I don't even understand YouTube. How sad is that? I thought a YouTuber always needed more clicks and more patreons. But now it turns out that, "don't forget to ring that bell and subscribe". is for our benefit, not theirs.
Kyle is not a YouTuber. HardOCP is gone. He has no need for clicks.
 
He does still know a lot of people in the industry and likely has better sources than a random YouTuber desperate for attention. He had no need for clicks anymore, so if he throws something out, I'll believe he got it from a decent source. Whether the source is blowing smoke up his ***, time tells.
I would say that this latest tale by Kyle is remarkably similar to the prediction he shared two years ago, about how Nvidia was about to be overrun by all the Radeon 6000 series cards that AMD was set to unleash on the market. What happened to all those cards?

Let's not pretend anything he says is gospel. Approach with due caution.

In Nov 2000 Kyle said:
AMD MBA cards will be in short supply up front. However, where you saw NV front-load almost all its cards, AMD is backloading. Once AIB cards hit, you will see 5 to 7 times the inventory released than what NV has shipped total in NA at this time.
 
(Tainted Squirrel @ Hard On (or whatever it's called)):
"Previous quarter marketshare numbers had Nvidia at 80%, so AMD only sells 1/4 the amount of cards as Nvidia. They don't even need to produce more to have better supply".

Our children's math scores really did go down during the pandemic.
I count a 20% market share as "1/5", but I suppose I could be wrong about that as well.
Let's not pretend anything he says is gospel. Approach with due caution.
Keep questioning the omnipotent, omniscient, Kyle, and you'll get the same "rash conjecture" timeout as me. Don't say I didn't warn you.
 
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