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The real-life Pinkertons are involved in a Red Dead Redemption 2 lawsuit

By midian182 · 7 replies
Jan 15, 2019
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  1. Court documents obtained by The Blast show that Pinkerton, which is now a subsidiary of Swedish security firm Securitas AB and called Pinkerton Consulting & Investigations, sent a cease-and-desist notice to Rockstar and Take-Two last month.

    While the firm acknowledged Rockstar’s “clear affection” for Pinkerton, it claims the use of the name might lead people to believe the agency was involved in the game’s creation, even though no permission was given. Pinkerton Consulting & Investigations is asking for a single lump sum or a share of Red Dead 2’s royalties.

    Take-Two has responded to the letter with a lawsuit that claims the use of the Pinkerton name is protected under the First Amendment, and that it’s part of the game’s historical setting.

    "Put simply, [Pinkerton] cannot use trademark law to own the past and prevent creators from including historical references to Pinkerton agents in depictions of the American West," Take-Two said.

    The game company adds that the Pinkertons have appeared in media for years, including the 1980 movie The Long Riders, TV show Deadwood, and the Elton John song "Ballad of a Well-Known Gun." It’s not even the first time the name has been used in a game; the protagonist in BioShock Infinite, Booker DeWitt, is a former Pinkerton agent.

    Take-Two also points out that the original Pinkerton name and badge is used in Red Dead Redemption 2, not the current ones, and that the Pinkertons only appear in 10 of the game's 106 missions.

    Back in 1996, Pinkerton tried and failed to sue rock band Weezer over the band’s second album, titled ‘Pinkerton.’

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  2. VitalyT

    VitalyT Russ-Puss Posts: 4,596   +3,202

    The real-life court leeches.
    Reehahs likes this.
  3. Squid Surprise

    Squid Surprise TS Evangelist Posts: 2,604   +1,592

    The thing is, these type of cases always get settled.... but everyone wins, as Red Dead gets a bit more publicity, Pinkerton gets some notoriety (and some cash) and of course.... all the lawyers get paid :)
    Reehahs and Footlong like this.
  4. psycros

    psycros TS Evangelist Posts: 2,823   +2,669

    Can't believe they didn't mention the movie Matewan.
    Reehahs likes this.
  5. ShagnWagn

    ShagnWagn TS Guru Posts: 839   +646

    Lawyers are leeches. Keep them out.

    I'm sorry, but Pinkerton is history. What about the movie 310 to Yuma? Technically, techspot is using the name Pinkerton to publish and generate money from their name. I guess techspot should be sued? See how stupid this is? I guess any historical figure is trademarked and current living people get to leech money? So I need to check my family history? Hmm...
  6. gigantor21

    gigantor21 TS Maniac Posts: 179   +242

    I didn't even know the Pinkertons were still around.
  7. antiproduct

    antiproduct TS Addict Posts: 122   +133

    Yet somehow they managed to leave the punk band "The Pinkerton Thugs" alone. Well, at least their name is fitting.
  8. JaredTheDragon

    JaredTheDragon TS Guru Posts: 634   +408

    Hilarious how they can claim the real-life Pinkerton agency is a Swedish sub, now, instead of the Langley it actually became. Using Hearst funding, no less, from Deadwood itself.

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