The US warns it will hack Russia's infrastructure if it interferes with the election

And here come world war 3. Good plan indeed.


Well, all I have to say is you have to go back and read your history. Proof positive would be the Cuban Blockade, removal of the Berlin Wall, and a few others. Not saying it's perfect, but if you don't make them stop, they will continue testing and it won't be long before you see Soviet bombers streaking across American skies ......
 
1940s: Defeated Nazi Germany and Japan.

1960s: Could not defeat Vietnamese in the jungle.

2000s: Could not defeat camel jockeys in the desert.

Present day: Russia, strategically aligned with Iran, Turkey, and China...

Yeah. We're gonna win that one real quick and easy. Won't even be a contest.

I don't think a lot of people realize that russia single-handedly defeated nazi germany and saved every country in Europe. The US only got in after the defeat has been accomplished.
 
#1 WIKILEAKS hacked Clinton's server - which should have never existed - and then used that "evidence" against her.

Private server's are not the grade of encryption that the government could have ensured.

#2 Hillary committed a crime. Even if you give her the benefit of the doubt about the email server - which existed to HIDE her information from the American public (the information is official and is public record) , she attempted to obstruct justice and destroy evidence (criminal acts).


I find it amazing that the DNC can pivot from the fact that the email server was illegal, and that a crime was committed (destroying government property ) so they can cast "blame on Russia".

The Russian's didn't create the server. They also didn't make the data up.

In fact, the Russians are doing a better job than the FBI is.

BINGO!
 
This is a perpetual problem for the US. We constantly threaten without backing up the threat. The "how to" of dealing with Russia has not changed in over 100 years. They only recognize demonstrated strength, not threats. The best way to demonstrate our strength is to get them a good dose now, and remind them that this is in answer to their many hacks of political systems, industrial systems and governmental systems. Part of Putin's appeal is his boasting. Slam him once, very publicly and make it clear to the Russian people that they next one will be considerably larger, then you'll get his attention. Give him warning, then start shooting down planes that violate airspace, sink ships that pass within that 13 mile limit and let them know this country isn't all hot air, but is very much an agent of democracy not to be trifled with. It also sends a not so subtle message message the Chinese ....
You must be one of those ***** republicans who thinks everything can be solved with wars and acts that show America's great strength. This tactic may have worked a hundred years ago, but it doesn't work now. This is typical Donald Trump style thinking; they hit us hard, so we hit them twice as hard!
 
You must be one of those ***** republicans who thinks everything can be solved with wars and acts that show America's great strength. This tactic may have worked a hundred years ago, but it doesn't work now. This is typical Donald Trump style thinking; they hit us hard, so we hit them twice as hard!
This kind of tactic has its place though... unfortunately you don't know that it was a better option until it is too late. Part of the problem too is the lack of definition for a "act of war". The definition obviously needs to change with the times as there is now a considerable level of cyber warfare taking place at this time but I would think any foreign government hacking into your government network and stealing secret information would be an act of war if it were to be judged the same as an equal physical action.
 
I don't think a lot of people realize that russia single-handedly defeated nazi germany and saved every country in Europe. The US only got in after the defeat has been accomplished.
largely true, but cannot forget the immense amount of manufactured goods that went to the USSR from the USA. To Britain as well.
edit: using the word 'saved' to what the USSR did to Europe may not be appropriate
 
Uncle Al, you may be tired of your life, but I would prefer on living.
America has NO idea what war is - NONE. ...and attacking countries that can barley wipe their own butts is not a war - that's bullying.

and "beating them harder than they have ever been beat before" is kinda false seeing how russia has never been beat (militarily speaking) - although their economy sucks.

So attacking russia means we will all die - so don't let the media continue to brainwash you.

Couple of problems with your post. First, you're supposed description of America sounds more like Russia. Ukraine, Georgia, Afghanistan, or Cuba ring a bell. Russia is the king of bullying.

Second, Russia has been beaten before. In fact they got their butts handed to their by the Japanese before the Japanese were even a world power. If it wasn't for the United States Russia would be apart of Nazi Germany right now.

The same "we will all die" logic applies to the Russians. You can lay down like a dog and bow to your Russian masters, backing away only emboldens them as they have demonstrated time and time again. You have to be willing to meet the Russian's with equal power in order to gain any respect.
 
#1 WIKILEAKS hacked Clinton's server - which should have never existed - and then used that "evidence" against her.

Private server's are not the grade of encryption that the government could have ensured.

#2 Hillary committed a crime. Even if you give her the benefit of the doubt about the email server - which existed to HIDE her information from the American public (the information is official and is public record) , she attempted to obstruct justice and destroy evidence (criminal acts).


I find it amazing that the DNC can pivot from the fact that the email server was illegal, and that a crime was committed (destroying government property ) so they can cast "blame on Russia".

The Russian's didn't create the server. They also didn't make the data up.

In fact, the Russians are doing a better job than the FBI is.

BINGO!

She was found not guilty twice by the FBI. It's because of *****s like you that most of this election was spent on one email server than actual policies. You having nothing on Hillary's email so give it up.

FYI the government has special channels for classified information. Even if you are a big enough crackpot to not believe the FBI, using a personal email server instead of a government issued one is the grounds for a slap on the wrist at best. This is ignoring the fact that government employees do not share highly classified information over their email and that emails can be retroactively classified.

I'm sure you didn't read about it but both the FBI and level 3 where able to identify the source of the DNC hack as proof positive Russia. Not only was their a portion of the leaked files encoded in the Russian language (metadata anyone could easily find) but the attack patterns follow two known to the FBI (yes there were 2 hacks into the DNC technically).
 
1940s: Defeated Nazi Germany and Japan.

1960s: Could not defeat Vietnamese in the jungle.

2000s: Could not defeat camel jockeys in the desert.

Present day: Russia, strategically aligned with Iran, Turkey, and China...

Yeah. We're gonna win that one real quick and easy. Won't even be a contest.

I don't think a lot of people realize that russia single-handedly defeated nazi germany and saved every country in Europe. The US only got in after the defeat has been accomplished.

Wrong

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II

The united states joined the war in 1941. The turning point on the eastern european front wasn't until 1943 at stalingrad. The US played a HUGE role in forcing germany to divert troops away from the eastern german front. Russia's advance back towards Germany was savage and they should have been called in for war crimes. Then of course you had the division of germany by Russia after the war as well.

You enjoying those rose tinted glasses?
 
She was found not guilty twice by the FBI. It's because of *****s like you that most of this election was spent on one email server than actual policies.

Any and ALL efforts to end her campaign and WIN are acceptable - especially considering the level of corruption and miscarriage of justice we've seen this decade.

Someday there will be a woman president.

Hillary doesn't deserve to be it.
 
It’s going to be an interesting week.
It's going to be an atrocious week for everyone.


I can deal with Trump or Clinton.

Can we deal with Clinton's lifetime appointments for the Supreme Court though? That's what scares me the most about this election. I'm not a fan of Trump. I don't think he'll make a good president. Clinton will be 100+ times worse though. The last thing this country needs is 4 more years of another lying, thieving, democrat in the oval office.
 
Can we deal with Clinton's lifetime appointments for the Supreme Court though? That's what scares me the most about this election. I'm not a fan of Trump. I don't think he'll make a good president. Clinton will be 100+ times worse though. The last thing this country needs is 4 more years of another lying, thieving, democrat in the oval office.


Basically:

Men will be in the bathroom with your daughter, abortions will get a machine like in the movie Prometheus and women working in fast food will have 2 months of paid sick leave subsidized by YOU.

Yellen, Merkel and Hillary will be the sisters of fate.

Clotho, Atropos and Lahkesis
 
Remember the phrase "don't poke the bear"? Well the bear has gotten a lot bigger while the sleeping giant has shrunk to the, well more like a sleeping pill. The US is no longer the power it once was and the people don't know half of what their government has been doing all these years.


America, Russia and China control their regions.

America is the most powerful region in the west.

China and Russia are the most powerful in the east. Unless Africa and South America get themselves together, reject globalism and build their own empires, there will only be a big 3 for a long time.

America's military power is still unchallenged. Unfortunately, we are wasting it on poorly armed, poorly trained ground troops in the middle of the desert. We don't need F-35's or AC-130's to fight these people. They are basically just target practice.

I doubt America, China and Russia will ever fight each other directly. If they did - it would quickly degenerate into a nuclear war.
 
That's MR. PRESIDENT to you.
I've never respected any of my presidents enough to voluntarily call them "MR." I'm not afraid to call them what I think before election or after. That's because if they are truly trying to represent the people, they would want to hear their opinions. The fact that they live sheltered lives which then allows them the opportunity to ignore the people, is why I don't respect them.
Not to mention that a certain man running for president gave as a reason for not running for president a few years back that he did not want to rub elbows with the "riff raff." I think it is amazing that there are so many out there that have short-term memories and think that man represents them.
 
Remember the phrase "don't poke the bear"? Well the bear has gotten a lot bigger while the sleeping giant has shrunk to the, well more like a sleeping pill. The US is no longer the power it once was and the people don't know half of what their government has been doing all these years.


America, Russia and China control their regions.

America is the most powerful region in the west.

China and Russia are the most powerful in the east. Unless Africa and South America get themselves together, reject globalism and build their own empires, there will only be a big 3 for a long time.

America's military power is still unchallenged. Unfortunately, we are wasting it on poorly armed, poorly trained ground troops in the middle of the desert. We don't need F-35's or AC-130's to fight these people. They are basically just target practice.

I doubt America, China and Russia will ever fight each other directly. If they did - it would quickly degenerate into a nuclear war.
The US has done a good job building high-power lasers that can shoot alot of things down - including incoming missiles as well as shells. Put a few of those on the nuclear powered ships that are out there, and that is a formidable weapon system. Something like that can also be land based, as well as mounted on lighter vehicles like humvees.

Not to mention drones.

But Jack Schitt out there has convinced many that america is not great any more, and those that choose to believe that Jack Schitt's reality is their reality are in for a rude awakening. The US military is well known for keeping the most advanced weapon systems secret until they are actually used.
 
It’s going to be an interesting week.
It's going to be an atrocious week for everyone.


I can deal with Trump or Clinton.

Can we deal with Clinton's lifetime appointments for the Supreme Court though? That's what scares me the most about this election. I'm not a fan of Trump. I don't think he'll make a good president. Clinton will be 100+ times worse though. The last thing this country needs is 4 more years of another lying, thieving, democrat in the oval office.
Who was certainly helped along by an *** for senate majority leader who publicly stated that his sole goal after the 2008 election was to make that president's tenure a failure. Yep. Patriotic is he who simply cannot work with anyone outside of his own party. The framers of America and the Constitution would be appalled at all of US guberment, and would probably challenge the leading candidates to a duel.
 
Can we deal with Clinton's lifetime appointments for the Supreme Court though? That's what scares me the most about this election. I'm not a fan of Trump. I don't think he'll make a good president. Clinton will be 100+ times worse though. The last thing this country needs is 4 more years of another lying, thieving, democrat in the oval office.


Basically:

Men will be in the bathroom with your daughter, abortions will get a machine like in the movie Prometheus and women working in fast food will have 2 months of paid sick leave subsidized by YOU.

Yellen, Merkel and Hillary will be the sisters of fate.

Clotho, Atropos and Lahkesis
And on the flip-side, women will be forced to have the babies of their rapists.
 
Ladies and gentlemen, this is what an ignoramus looks like:

And Trump will be there shortly for tax evasion.

Do you want to know why Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton, Tim Cook, Bernie Sanders, Bill Gates, and every other financial big wig isn't sitting in prison for tax evasion right now?

Because not paying taxes you aren't required to pay isn't tax evasion.

When someone spouts off some nonsense like this, you can safely dismiss every subsequent thing they have to say on the matter, as they don't have the slightest whiff of a hint of a notion of a clue what they're talking about.
 
So the neocons are at it again. Beating the drums of war against a country that has 3 bases outside of their own country vs. USA with 100's. Who is the empire here? The Russia today is not the Soviet Russia of yesteryear. This isn't the Red Army with millions of men. Russia's entire economy is smaller than New York City. Are the neocons that desperate to start WW3 with a country that has all the nukes it does???
 
1940s: Defeated Nazi Germany and Japan.

1960s: Could not defeat Vietnamese in the jungle.

2000s: Could not defeat camel jockeys in the desert.

Present day: Russia, strategically aligned with Iran, Turkey, and China...

Yeah. We're gonna win that one real quick and easy. Won't even be a contest.

I don't think a lot of people realize that russia single-handedly defeated nazi germany and saved every country in Europe. The US only got in after the defeat has been accomplished.

A bitterly cold Winter which Stalin was smart enough to exploit and the fat between Hitler's ears played starring roles in defeating Germany on the Eastern Front which made it much easier for the Allied forces to defeat Germany on the Western Front. Russia was certainly not interested in saving European countries from the Nazis. At first it was primarily interested in saving Russia, but by the end of WW2 it was interested in grabbing as much of other people's lands to rule over with an iron fist as the West would allow. This turned out to be more than just the Communist share of the booty agreed to in the German/Soviet non-aggression pact. Ruling any country by Communist dictatorship is not saving it.
 
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Yes I do agree, by wanting to disarm its citizens. In our policed nation, we are forgetting how to take up arms and fight for ourselves.
I know, right? It's getting so you can't even get into your expensive car, go speeding across the Walt Whitman Bridge, while carrying an unlicensed hand gun, and maybe an ounce of weed or so, without being kicked off your mediocre football team. :D

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports...rrested__handgun__marijuana_found_in_car.html

Notice our guys don't go in for those PED's. (Well one is on suspension for using them).

We like to give the other teams a chance by using, "PDD's" (Performance Decreasing Drugs).

Josh Huff is believed to have said, "oh man, I'm too stoned to run and try to catch a ball at the same time. Besides, I'm liable shoot anybody who tries to tackle me. Reefer makes me paranoid like that. Now somebody pass me that big box of Twinkies....Y'all know I'm strapped, right?
 
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Any and ALL efforts to end her campaign and WIN are acceptable - especially considering the level of corruption and miscarriage of justice we've seen this decade.

Someday there will be a woman president.

Hillary doesn't deserve to be it.
We have a woman president now, Barack Obama.
 
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