Vanderlinde
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Nvidia made chipsets too; and they where actually better then Intel's or AMD's. Nforce2 for example, build in Geforce 2MX etc. That was untill both intel and amd pulled the plug on chipset licencing.
Nvidia made chipsets too; and they where actually better then Intel's or AMD's. Nforce2 for example, build in Geforce 2MX etc. That was untill both intel and amd pulled the plug on chipset licencing.
The MX 400 was my first Geforce.
Upgraded from a Voodoo 3 3000.
The MX400 had more video memory and I noticed that details in my games, such as gauges in flight simulators (Janes USAF) looked animated and better.
From thence on, I prefer to get as much VRAM as possible.
Th3 most important Nvidia GPU is always the next one.
Right now my 3090FTW3 and the Kingpin 3090 are at the absolute top of the pile.
What Nvidia really needs is a 3080Ti for $1099 that isn't scalpable. IE: sell it direct to consumers.
Had a similar upgrade path myself: Voodoo 3 to GeForce 2 MX 400, which to be fair was in a TON of OEM PCs back in the day.
Made some poor choices after that: Geforce 5500, 9800 GX2, ATI 4890 (failed after three months). Got smart after that though: 770 GTX to 1080 GTX.
the mobile 8600M GT is definitely the worst. the card itself is removable (MXM-II) but OEM specific bios means you can't easily swap it to another MXM-II card or even remove it to switch to integrated graphics. it's the worst when you're not in the US (part of settlement lawsuit) and your laptop is not one of those select OEM covered (Dell, HP, Compaq, Apple).
a friend gave me her acer 5920 with dead 8600M GT. at the time I thought I could maybe get some lower-end MXM-II card over ebay and have a pretty decent laptop at the time. boy I was wrong, even crappy card costs hundreds of dollars. I guess nvidia sort of "scammed' those OEM when they supplied them with the horseshit that is the 8600M GT.
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a friend gave me her acer 5920 with dead 8600M GT. at the time I thought I could maybe get some lower-end MXM-II card over ebay and have a pretty decent laptop at the time. boy I was wrong, even crappy card costs hundreds of dollars. I guess nvidia sort of "scammed' those OEM when they supplied them with the horseshit that is the 8600M GT.
I "baked" my desktop 8600GT several times for several years until I got rid of it. I really can't tell if I did a lousy job so it worked only for a few months until it had to be baked again. I think "my recipe" was 300°f for 10 min IIRC.If you still have that laptop and want to try to revive it, search for "baking your gpu for fun and profit", without quotes. If you bake the 8600M GT at the right temperature for the right amount of time, it will reflow the solder and (at least temporarily) bring it back to life.
I haven't done that myself yet due to good fortune and spare Dell 8600M GTs going for $25 or $30 back in the day when old laptops were being parted out, but probably will at some point. There's no lead in the solder, so no risk of dying of lead inhalation.
Maybe a list the the best cards overall from any maker, or cards that brought up new things to the table, like the Matrox Parhelia bringing multimonitor. Or the Kyro cards that introduced tile based rendering. S3 and the S3TC texture compression, etc.Pretty good list. It's probably a bit too soon to put the RTX 3080 on it, but other than that I see few nits to pick, and it may well wind up being worthy even when it's not the hot new thing.
The real question is, is there going to be a similar list for non-ATI/nVIDIA GPUs? SIS maybe? That's one where I probably would not be familiar with most of the GPUs.
The worst graphics card I ever had was Nvidia, it was an FX5200 and it was a mess!
I could do it easily because I've been around as long as I have. In no particular order:
That bumpgate scandal affected SO MANY mobile GPUs (at least two entire generations) that you could do a bottom ten using only those. Nope, not a challenge.
- GTX 970 (1GB of VRAM slower than the other 3GB)
- GTX 480 (OMGWTFBBQ!)
- GTX 590 (Unstable and weaker than the HD 6990)
- 8400 GS (Glorified video adapter so weak that it can use PCI)
- GTS 250 (Re-branded 9800GTX+ but nVidia didn't want anyone to know)
- FX 5400 (Sounded like an old Electrolux vacuum cleaner)
- NV1 (Horrible picture quality compared to the competition)
- GT 1030 DDR4 (Half the performance of the GDDR5 version at the same price)
- Mobile 8400 GT (Bumpgate)
- Pick another mobile GPU that was affected by bumpgate
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I agree with you but that's not the vibe that I got from their post:I think the challenge lies in picking just 10![]()
Picking 10 best cards from nVidia would be easy but picking 10 worst or even 5 worst would be a challenge? I get the distinct impression that this person's opinion is that nVidia is incapable of making bad cards. If only 10 was the challenge then they would have said "heck, even 20 worst would be a challenge" instead of 5.BTW picking just 10 best is an easy task on nivdia. Now having a 10 worst, heck even 5 worst cards, that would be a challenge![]()
It was only on the PCI-Express cards. I know that my XFX GeForce 6200 didn't have an SLI connector at the top:Even though I was a youngster who could only afford a GeForce 6200, the GeForce 6000 series was one of the most exciting generations for me. At the time, the reintroduction of SLI meant that dual GPU rigs were set to be the future of ultra high end gaming rigs for the foreseeable future.
It was only on the PCI-Express cards. I know that my XFX GeForce 6200 didn't have an SLI connector at the top:
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From what I can see, SLI cards were all PCI-Express only. See, the 6800 Ultra didn't have an SLI connector port on the AGP model:
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but the 6800 Ultra PCI-Express version did (little off-white connector at the top):
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Come to think of it, I don't think that I've ever seen an AGP card that could be used in a dual-card setup. That doesn't mean they don't exist but I've never seen one.
In my defense I was thinking of real gaming cards, not cheapo crap. Because in that case dozens of AMD/nvidia cards would fill the list.I agree with you but that's not the vibe that I got from their post:
Picking 10 best cards from nVidia would be easy but picking 10 worst or even 5 worst would be a challenge? I get the distinct impression that this person's opinion is that nVidia is incapable of making bad cards. If only 10 was the challenge then they would have said "heck, even 20 worst would be a challenge" instead of 5.
you couldn't SLI on AGP simple because there was only 1 AGP slot and it was never intended for multiple AGP cards. You could have multigpu on a single board like the RageFuryMaxx and Vodoo 5 series.It was only on the PCI-Express cards. I know that my XFX GeForce 6200 didn't have an SLI connector at the top:
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From what I can see, SLI cards were all PCI-Express only. See, the 6800 Ultra didn't have an SLI connector port on the AGP model:
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but the 6800 Ultra PCI-Express version did (little off-white connector at the top):
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Come to think of it, I don't think that I've ever seen an AGP card that could be used in a dual-card setup. That doesn't mean they don't exist but I've never seen one.
Hey, no worries. I wasn't attacking you, I was just giving information. Of the ones I presented, four of them were high-end gaming cards and someone else pointed out that I could have put the FX 5800 instead of the FX 5400 so that's five.In my defense I was thinking of real gaming cards, not cheapo crap. Because in that case dozens of AMD/nvidia cards would fill the list.
Yeah, that's what I had always assumed but never really gave it much thought.you couldn't SLI on AGP simple because there was only 1 AGP slot and it was never intended for multiple AGP cards. You could have multigpu on a single board like the RageFuryMaxx and Vodoo 5 series.
Only PCI-e cards were SLI/crossfire capable.
The worst graphics card I ever had was Nvidia, it was an FX5200 and it was a mess! Before that I remember my dad upgrading the TNT with a voodoo. I never had much love for Nvidia growing up.
Things have changed though because now they absolutely smash Radeon.