Trump says Apple will work with Intel to build chips in the US

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What just happened? President Trump says that Apple has agreed to work with Intel to design and build its chips in America. In a Truth Social post, Trump complained that "Stupid Presidents" had "let Taiwan and others steal our Semiconductor Factories."

"When I won my Second Term (Third, actually!), it was clear America needed its Semiconductor Industry to come back to the U.S.A. We design everything, but we need to BUILD it here, NOW!" Trump wrote. "So I decided to help Intel because we need to design and build our Chips right here in America."

The post comes just over a month after reports that Apple and Intel were working on a chip manufacturing deal. The discussions had been underway for more than a year and recently evolved into a formal arrangement.

It's no secret that Apple's reliance on TSMC is becoming strained as AI chipmakers such as Nvidia and AMD battle it out for the most advanced production capacity. Partnering with Intel would help Apple increase its chip capacity as it diversifies its manufacturing base.

Apple and Intel did not immediately respond to requests for comment outside regular business hours, so for now the announcement remains a Trump post rather than a joint confirmation. There are also questions around timing, scale, process nodes, yields, and which components Intel would make.

If this proves to be true, the deal would be a major win for Intel Foundry. Team Blue has spent years trying to convince outside customers that it can again compete at the top end of semiconductor manufacturing. Landing even a limited slice of Apple's business would give that effort a huge boost.

Apple has spent the decade so far moving Macs away from Intel-designed processors after launching its own Arm-based M-series chips in 2020. This time, however, Intel would be acting as a contract manufacturer for chips Apple designs itself.

Trump has made domestic manufacturing one of the biggest issues of his second term, especially in semiconductors. Apple pledged $500 billion in US investment at the start of 2025, which arrived amid tariff pressure on Chinese imports and possible semiconductor duties. The company later unveiled another $100 billion US investment plan after Trump repeatedly criticized Apple for assembling iPhones overseas.

Trump's post also mentions the US government's investment in Intel. Early last year, his administration converted almost $9 billion in federal funding into Intel equity, giving it roughly a 10% stake. The government has also backed tariffs of around 100% on imported semiconductors, with exemptions for companies producing in the US or promising to do so.

This isn't a sign that US-made iPhones are suddenly realistic. As we've noted before, moving final iPhone assembly to America would be wildly difficult, potentially expensive, and time consuming. Chips are a different matter, though. Reliable US capacity from Intel could give Apple a little more breathing room in the world's tightest chip market.

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Building chips for others will be Intels way back to being profitable. Their own architectures are sadly inferior to AMDs in most ways today. Nova Lake might change that, we will see but Nova will face Zen 6 which will be no joke either.

Lets just hope that Nova Lake bLLC can beat at least Zen 5 X3D in actual CPU bound gaming (high fps).

Raptor Lake + refreshes and Arrow Lake + refreshes, gets stomped in high fps gaming when CPU is the actual bottleneck by 9000X3D and even 7000X3D slams them in most cases. Being CPU limited is almost always the case for people with high refresh rate monitors, that chase highest possible framerates, especially 1% lows.
 
Trump won't even make his Trump mobile phone in the US, this is all a bunch of BS until it actually happens.
Intel is reliant on TSMC as well, so Intel will need to go back to using their own fabs before anyone would trust them with chip manufacturing.

When 18A/14A is running at full yield things will probably change. Besides, you don't really need top nodes anymore, for consumer stuff. Enterprise took over these nodes for the most part now. Peak nodes are much more expensive.

Most consumers won't pay the cost of these nodes. Part of why hadware prices go up and up over time, fabrication process gets more advanced and therefore more expensive.

Intel sells Arrow Lake with very low margins due to being in panic mode. Arrow Lake is not selling unless dirt cheap. Intel don't really have anything else besides Raptor Lake that still is their biggest sellers and made on their own fabs, on 10nm aka Intel 7.

Intel turned to TSMC, while they work on 18A/14A. Eventually they will leave TSMC again. This is temporary. TSMC knows it.

Look at TSMCs top nodes today. Most is enterprise stuff or high-end / entusiast tier consumer products. Apple used TSMC 3nm for years. Apple begins using TSMC 2nm now, among the first customers, if not the first. These will power iPhone 18 line later this year.

I could easily see companies like Nvidia, AMD, Apple and others, move consumer stuff, especially mid-end, to cheaper nodes to get cost down.

Building a chip compared to assembling an entire phone is not the same. US can't compete with Asia on salary, hence building a phone in the US will be much more expensive. Trump probably knew this. He talk crap mostly. Yap Yap all day. Look at what he does and don't listen to what he say is my recommendation.

Intel uses TSMC sure, but they don't use TSMC that much. Arrow Lake was a flop with low sales. Nova Lake might ramp numbers up, if any good and price is decent, we will see. Nova Lake is probably the last generation that Intel will use TSMC and Intel don't solely use TSMC for their chips and they are not that much different overall.

Intel uses Tile based design now, scaleable, like AMD really. You don't need to make all parts of the chip at the same fab. TSMC makes some parts of the chip and Intel assembles them in their own fabs. Intel can easily switch out production when 18A and 14A hopefully works good.

I hope Intel will work this out, because TSMC monopoly is not good for anyone and Intel is still the 2nd best, Samsung is far behind Intel. Samsungs 2nm claims are mostly lies - just like when they claimed a 10nm node was a 8nm for RTX 3000 etc. - Samsung just renamed a 10nm node to 8nm and called it a day. When it comes to Samsung chips, look at perf, power and price, don't listen to their nanometer claims - Nanometer has become a marketing term. You can't compare fabs like that. Hence why Intel renamed 10nm to Intel 7, because it targets TSMC 7nm and they are overall pretty close.
 
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His dad taught him that animosity is a virtue and Trump is making EVERYBODY pay for that particular personality disorder.
Trump being who he is remains "blissfully" unaware of what's up with him.

Same for his followers. "Introspection" has way too many letters and is therefore meaningless if not downright dirty.
 
Trump won't even make his Trump mobile phone in the US ...
Because it's physically impossible to do so at this point in time, thanks to decades of inaction by past administrations.

, this is all a bunch of BS until it actually happens.
Keep refusing to believe in reality if you wish. Even before this Apple deal, Intel's resurgence in domestic manufacturing has increased its market cap to over $600B. That's up from $100B less than a year ago.

Intel is reliant on TSMC as well, so Intel will need to go back to using their own fabs before anyone would trust them with chip manufacturing.
Hilariously wrong, given that not just Apple, but NVidia, Amazon, Tesla, Google, and Cisco have all recently signed deals for Intel to produce chips for them. Would you like to dispute that water is wet, also?
 
Because all the cool kids hate Trump(and America) and they can't be seen associating with him. Its that simple and stupid and leftism in a nutshell.
People hate Trump because he's a criminal, a sex offender, a serial liar, a misogynist, a bigot and an all round horror of a human being not because they are 'leftists' you imbecile.
 
The announcement is a Truth Social post with no comment from either Apple or Intel. That's the state of semiconductor policy in 2026, a tweet (or whatever that platform calls them) and a maybe.

Then the government taking a 10% equity stake in Intel and then brokering a deal that sends Apple business to Intel is... an interesting interpretation of a free market. Not saying it's wrong, just noting it out loud.
 
If I was 'Tim Apple' then I would have seriously considered aiming for a (hostile?) takeover of Intel right as Trump got into office.

Pretty sure that with the right sweet talk Trump would have pulled some strings to get it approved. Intel was clearly super undervalued and a bargain.

Good news though, seems like the big boys are finally starting to get motivated to put some business in Samsungs/Intels hands. TSMC can do with the competition, they've had far too easy of a time just increasing prices by huge steps over and over.
 
That may be the case, but Trump announcing the deal is akin to him saying "Look at me. Look what I made them do", rather than a natural progression of companies doing business and releasing the news to the general public.
Wrong on two counts. First of all, Apple switching production back from Asia to the US is far from a "natural progression" -- it's largely the result of pressure the Trump Administration has placed on businesses to divest from Chinese and Chinese-controlled supply chains. Did you miss the whole tariff debate?

Secondly, its not always 'natural' for companies to release this news themselves. In this particular case, Apple nor Intel did so originally... the WSJ report was based on leaks from company insiders.
 
Wrong on two counts. First of all, Apple switching production back from Asia to the US is far from a "natural progression" -- it's largely the result of pressure the Trump Administration has placed on businesses to divest from Chinese and Chinese-controlled supply chains. Did you miss the whole tariff debate?

Secondly, its not always 'natural' for companies to release this news themselves. In this particular case, Apple nor Intel did so originally... the WSJ report was based on leaks from company insiders.
So we're in agreeance, it's a forced outcome rather than a natural progression.
 
Of course, reliance on overseas tech manufacturing had nothing to do with dumb previous presidents. It had to do with shortsighted corporate executives wanting to cut manufacturing costs. In the last decade of the 20th century, Digitial Equipment led the way with factories in China. A friend of mine worked for Digital and he was one of the people involved with setting up DEC's first Chinese factory.

But, of course, our President is no history buff. He fantasizes something to make himself look superior and wiser than all our previous presidents.
 
Of course, reliance on overseas tech manufacturing had nothing to do with dumb previous presidents. It had to do with shortsighted corporate executives wanting to cut manufacturing costs. In the last decade of the 20th century, Digitial Equipment led the way with factories in China.
Quite wrong. DEC owned no factories in China: they briefly had a joint venture with Hunan Computers -- but only to produce terminals for the Chinese domestic market. And that venture died in three years time.

The rise of China manufacturing high-tech goods for the US market began when Bill Clinton granted China Most Favored Nation trade status, and was compounded by his and several subsequent administrations ignoring China's theft of hundreds of billions of dollars of US intellectual property. Blaming this on "corporate executive wanting to cut costs" is inane -- every corporation since the dawn of time has wanted to reduce costs as much as possible, and the gap between US and China labor costs is **smaller** today than it was in the 1970s, when China produced none of our goods.


But, of course, our President is no history buff.
Rather ironic, given your historical vagaries above, eh?
 
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