Trump's dream of a US-made iPhone clashes with Apple's manufacturing reality

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In context: President Trump's 104% tariff on goods imported from China is now in effect. It will have an enormous impact on many US firms, especially Apple, which relies heavily on China to manufacture its iPhones. Trump believes the solution is to start making the handsets in the US, but that would be nearly impossible, especially in the short term. And even if it were, iPhones would likely become much more expensive.

Trump has said that if companies want to avoid the tariffs placed on countries such as China, Vietnam, Thailand, and India, they should move their manufacturing to the United States. But that's a lot easier said than done.

With the tariff on Chinese goods now up to 104%, we're waiting to see how Apple responds. The company transported five planeloads of iPhones and other products from India and China to the US over a three-day span during the final week of March, giving itself a buffer against the tariffs.

When asked if Trump believed iPhone manufacturing could move to the US, Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said "Absolutely, he believes we have the labor, we have the workforce, we have the resources to do it."

Leavitt also mentioned the $500 billion Apple has committed to investing in the US. "If Apple didn't think the United States could do it, they probably wouldn't have put up that big chunk of change," she said.

Most of Apple's $500 billion investment will go toward building a new advanced manufacturing facility in Houston that will produce servers for supporting Apple Intelligence.

Manufacturing the iPhone domestically would require moving Apple's supply chain to the United States. As noted by 440Media, the idea of a US-made iPhone is "pure fantasy."

Also read: Apple's China exposure makes it most vulnerable in US-China trade war

Apple's 27-page supplier list includes more than 50 countries, most of them in Asia, where iPhone components are manufactured. Then there are the required minerals that are sourced from 79 countries, from 200 different refineries and smelters – just 20 of those smelters are in the US. Overall, Apple has more than 320 suppliers who employ at least 1.4 million people.

US secretary of commerce Howard Lutnick said over the weekend that the "army of millions and millions of people screwing in little, little screws to make iPhones, that kind of thing is going to come to America."

Lutnick: "The army of millions and millions of human beings screwing in little screws to make iPhones – that kind of thing is going to come to America."

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– Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 6 April 2025 at 15:52

The reality of iPhone manufacturing is obviously a lot more complicated. Apple CEO Tim Cook said in 2017 that the reason companies use China is not because of the low labor costs, which are now higher, but the skill and type of skills available in one location.

"It is like the products we do require really advanced tooling and the precision that you have to have in tooling and working with the materials that we do are state-of-the-art, and the tooling skill is very deep here," Cook said.

"China put an enormous focus on manufacturing. The US, over time, began to stop having as many vocational kind of skills. I mean, you can take every tool and die maker in the United States and probably put them in a room that we're currently sitting in. In China, you would have to have multiple football fields," Cook said in an interview with 60 Minutes in 2015.

In addition to the dearth of required skills, there are questions over how many Americans would want to take sweatshop-style manufacturing jobs that can be hard, monotonous, and depressing.

Then there's the salaries. US machine operators made an average of $43,000 annually in 2022, while the same profession in Vietnam made less than $5,000 annually. Reports say that if Apple somehow were to make an iPhone in the US, the extra costs passed on to consumers could push the handset's price to $2,300.

Apple's previous attempt at manufacturing in the US involved the Mac Pro in 2013. Assembled in Austin, Texas, the machine was delayed for months due to various issues – one of them being a screw shortage.

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UK media are reporting the iPhone will rise here too, but nobody explains why.

The tariffs only apply to items imported into the USA, so am I to conclude if they rise here too in the UK by roughly the same, it's nothing more than "any excuse" at this point to cream off extra profit?
 
UK media are reporting the iPhone will rise here too, but nobody explains why.

The tariffs only apply to items imported into the USA, so am I to conclude if they rise here too in the UK by roughly the same, it's nothing more than "any excuse" at this point to cream off extra profit?
I don't have your answer, but I assume the whole supply chain may get impacted which then can cascade down to us in the UK as well, despite iphones in the UK are not a subject to any tariffs. The supply chain might hold the answer. If not, then they are just milking us because they are loosing chinese market as a result of the trade war.
 
UK media are reporting the iPhone will rise here too, but nobody explains why.

The tariffs only apply to items imported into the USA, so am I to conclude if they rise here too in the UK by roughly the same, it's nothing more than "any excuse" at this point to cream off extra profit?
Trump's tariffs will have a global effect as companies will charge more to other countries to upset the cost of their penalties imposed by ignorant Trump
 
I don't have your answer, but I assume the whole supply chain may get impacted which then can cascade down to us in the UK as well, despite iphones in the UK are not a subject to any tariffs. The supply chain might hold the answer. If not, then they are just milking us because they are loosing chinese market as a result of the trade war.
The answer is simple as long as there is demand for that item the seller will become a scalper, in this way they kill the eBay scalping by becoming a scalper themselves, the vendor, Apple in our case.
 
Hmmm Trump...lemme skip this part.
As for Apple, I really LOVE their ecosystem and besides my iPhone and (now ancient but immortal) iPad1 I would like to replace my computers with Macs ánd a MacBook if I could afford it.

But...make no mistake; I'm well aware that the people who run Apple are vultures (common in the 'business' world) who are willing to do AN-Y-THING they can get away with to get at our money.
 
Trump's tariffs will have a global effect as companies will charge more to other countries to upset the cost of their penalties imposed by ignorant Trump
I think not necessarily, unless Apple will increase the price because Trump will get angry on them. But asian companies, like Sony and Samsung, shouldn't see a need to increase the prices in rest of the world, to keep the numbers going.
 
US secretary of commerce Howard Lutnick said over the weekend that the "army of millions and millions of people screwing in little, little screws to make iPhones, that kind of thing is going to come to America."

with the age restrictions dropping for working in factories in the USA this is great news.
Hopefully kids in another factory can lathe enough screws

Lutnick is a national treasure.

I hope an EO comes soon to head to South Dakoda to carve Donald's head , better not use that colorado portrait

So many jobs are coming back, screwing, soldering, gluing cyber trucks parts shipped in

Another EO for coal , so that's more energy and oils heading to $40 a barrel, so even remote workers can get to the factories
 
There's not a single SMD resistor made in USA now and they dream about making iPhones there?
Not even talking about PCB's, flex cables, connectors display's and rest of internals.
It will take at least 5-10 years to have all components made locally.
Someone said 2,3K USD, yeah more like 10K maybe.
 
As noted by 440Media, the idea of a US-made iPhone is "pure fantasy."

Well, US (companies) succesfully made what was a backward and undeveloped China into giant and advance electronic manufacturing ecosystem. Period.
 
There's another fantasy involved: the U.S. is essentially relying on labor to remain cheap abroad so that it can get cheap goods.

But there's a reality behind that fantasy: the U.S. needs to keep those countries weak so that their labor will always be cheap. Plus they'll always be dependent on the dollar for trade, which maintains high demand for the dollar, which in turn allows the U.S. to borrow increasing amounts of money from itself to buy those cheap goods.

The latter is a given because the U.S. has been experiencing trade deficits since 1975. That means it has been buying more than it's been selling for five decades.

And where do it get the money to buy more things? Why do you think it's been racking up increasing levels of debt, and to the point that it even has to borrow more to pay for part of the interest rate of previous debts?

Lasty, there's a fantasy behind that reality: those countries that are supposed to be weak have become economically stronger. They include Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa, plus forty emerging markets, and they're currently taking over the global economy.
 
China is an authoritarian state. It has its advantages as they're able to 'get stuff done' without opposition. The US is quickly becoming China 2.0. Trump is the dictator in all but name....and he loves it.
 
It will take at least 5-10 years to have all components made locally.
Why even invest into the manufacturing when the tariffs can be lifted at anytime and now you are stuck with non-competitive manufacturing facilities. Not only does trump's ignorance have no limits but so do his cult like followers.
 
I was laughing at a MAGA comment I read today that all those people that lost their jobs in the 70s and 80s to foreign manufacturing want them back.

Yes, apart from the fact those people are now either retired or dead. Everything I see from these pro MAGA people is incredibly stupid.

This generation of Americans do not want to do the jobs of their grandparents anyway. That's why there are about a million American women on Onlyfans. A literal million.
 
It is,

america is a rich company, and we buy alot of stuff here, the current world is about to break because of one man which makes no sense to me.

Africa is 1.5bn+ people, Europe is 1bn+ people, China is 1bn+ people, India is 1bn+ people, and US is a relatively small 343m.. While the US is presently at the top of the economic chain, these moves only encourage the rest to trade together more tightly, and cut the US completely out of the pie. Which means soon enough the USA will no longer be number one, and the world will move on.
 
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