Trump's millions of @POTUS followers won't pass to Biden when he takes over account

[Crinkles]

Eh? I've made no personal claims. But I do know that when the most cursory of checks in a battleground state turns up 1,000 proven cases of fraud, it is indeed significant, when the state was only won by 12,000 votes out of five million votes cast. An actual signature audit of ballots would certainly turn up a larger number.

Yeah well, if it mattered 50+ judges might have made a mistake.

Or they did not.

Man, sooner or later the red-bird side needs to understand that 100% absolute perfect elections are unattainable. The system in place is as good as it gets.

But "DOMINION" and "SPARKPLUGS", "FRAUD & "stuff", trump brought out bats*** Sidney Powell with her frightening kraken to press on with help from kooks!

Fault > trump.

Trump paid ('cept king trump never really pays for anything, see unpaid rally sites, pp954 para 299) 3 million for a disappointing recount, how many times should he return to that well?

Whatever, the judges said ENOUGH! It's done! That's all you can get, sit on the porch and live with the consequences. Same thing the rest of humanity has had to do after y'all voted "trump".

I'm still confused why you need an ID to do something as trivial as purchase a pack of cigarettes ... but requiring an ID to vote is considered "voter suppression".

Some politician decided by turning 17 year old girls working checkouts, they could double as unpaid "Identification Experts" for prospective buyers of cancer sticks, and thus prevent /n* cancer deaths.

OTOH, voting has never had a confirmed cancer death.

Press on good men.

 

[Loadedaxe]

I dont think articles like this belong on a tech site. Political views and tech do not mix.

All you have is a bunch of inbred fighting.

People should not care who the president is. You cant change it, and bickering like children definitely does not change it.

 

[madboyv1]

Honestly I'm surprised they just don't use numbered handles as the default and just have @POTUS automatically forward the user to whatever the current president account is. Like, I get Obama was the first to do it officially, but for the sake of archiving and keeping the narrative a presidency separate from the next, it would have just been smarter to rename the original @POTUS as @POTUS44 and then continue the trend from there, with Trump being @POTUS45, Biden @POTUS46, etc. They could do the same thing for The first lady and any other genericized account for government that would nominally be tied to one specific administration. But I guess that would just be crazy talk.

 

[dirtyferret]

Absolutely. Except for little things like renegotiating NAFTA, passing criminal justice reform, moving the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem (something Obama promised, and failed to do), imposing tariffs on foreign steel (another failed Obama promise), giving veterans the right to select their health care providers, as well as passing the first major tax overall in four decades -- one that reduced the average family's tax burden by some $2,000 a year, and raised federal tax revenues in the process.

Oh, and destroying the caliphate of ISIS, convincing North Korea to halt testing of nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles, lowering the US-China trade deficit, convincing NATO to increase funding, arming Ukraine against Russian aggression, restoring Poland's missile deal, creating an entirely new branch of the US Armed Forces, turning the US into a net energy exporter for the first time in half a century, revamping the federal regulatory code more than the past four presidents combined, confirmed three Supreme Court Justices, and the longest streak of sub-four percent unemployment in US history.

We need more train wrecks like that.

So you listed all his epic failures proving once again what an awful president he is

 

[JimboJoneson]

The septic tank needs to be emptied every once in a while...

... to make way for a whole fresh new pile of bullsh!t'n'lies ... I find it hilarious that people worship politicians and pretend that their favourite ones will make all our lives wonderful and solveall the problems -- a promise as old as the time when democracy was invented by the "rulers" to help sustain their rule ...

Actually, its sad as the hell the world is going to, rather quickly, in a handbasket.

A hint, people ... politicians are not leaders, they are puppets ... let that sink in.

 

[Arbie]

A little fact-checking on some numbers being thrown around here by a stickler for the facts. And note the evolution from "massive fraud" to "some fraud by somebody somewhere even if only once".

Quite a few of the cases did indeed allege fraud ... affidavits from over 100 poll watchers who alleged witnessing instances of fraud

MISINFORMED and by now bordering on a LIE - endlessly repeated and refuted. Those people were simply swearing that they suspected fraud! None were ever entered in court as claims of fraud! Because not even Trump lawyers would do something that stupid. And the courts looked at and dismissed every one because generally either those people didn't know what they were observing, or it was plain nonsense.

In Georgia ... 1,000 voters were found to have fraudulently voted twice.

MISINFORMED and by now bordering on a LIE. That number had no original basis and was eventually walked back to about 130, which then turned out to be for elections during the whole year. Which was close to Georgia's yearly average of ~100 such votes.

Trump's claims of massive election fraud are this decade's "Big Lie". Google it. And like the first Big Lie a stain on history. Except this time it's our history.

 

[cliffordcooley]

Trump's claims of massive election fraud are this decade's "Big Lie". Google it. And like the first Big Lie a stain on history. Except this time it's our history.

You are going to be furious. When you find out, you have been believing in Google's deception. Google has been censoring truth from you and you don't care. There has been so much evidence completely ignored/censored. I don't believe anything from MSM or social media fact checkers.

 

[scavengerspc]

There has been so much evidence completely ignored/censored

Share some.

 

[scavengerspc]

When you find out, you have been believing in Google's deception. Google has been censoring truth from you and you don't care.

So the MSM is against you. The Democrats are against you. Print news is against you. So-called RINOs are against you. Federal law enforcement is against you. Election workers are against you. Election officials of both parties are against you. Google is against you. The medical community is against you. Twitter is against you.

Your true (and only) enemy is the truth.
Besides even IF all that was true it seems that would be an indication that it's you that is full of bullshit.

 

[Crinkles]

Your true (and only) enemy is the truth.
Besides even IF all that was true it seems that would be an indication that it's you that is full of XXX

This ^ and they'll post dam lies until the end of time.

trumpism is sickness

 

[Crinkles]

You are going to be furious. When you find out, you have been believing in Google's deception. Google has been censoring truth from you and you don't care. There has been so much evidence completely ignored/censored. I don't believe anything from MSM or social media fact checkers.

Here's the trooth "global elites are in a massive ring of trafficking, torture, sexual abuse and cannibalization of children who are used for satanic death, that trump is going to bring to justice" - as told by 4chan the vast shithole of internet lies.

 

[Endymio]

note the evolution from "massive fraud" to "some fraud by somebody somewhere even if only once".

The actual evolution was from "no one is even alleging fraud" to "well there was fraud, just not much" As for misinformation, your debunked claim that Trump is using campaign contributions to pay his business expenses tops the list so far.

That number had no original basis and was eventually walked back to about 130

I know of no such reduction. Can you provide a reputable source for that? In fact, according to RealClearPolitics from a week ago, the number has actually risen to 1,700:

"More than 1,700 Georgians were singled out for illegally casting two ballots in 2020 elections — including last month’s hotly contested presidential race -- but their fraudulent votes weren't canceled out, according to state election officials...

" Hundreds of workers assigned to county poll sites were recruited and trained by the Democrat-run Georgia chapter of the ACLU and a [temp agency] run by Democrat donors...Despite the potential conflict, Fulton County allowed the ACLU to station lawyers at each of its 255 polling sites, replacing poll managers and overriding normal county procedures for catching absentee voters who show up at polls. This “new policy” was designed to “simplify" the process..."

" “I am not sure the secretary of state has the backbone for this,” Fulton County poll manager Suzi Voyles said. “We have turned in thousands of unlawful voters..."

 

[captaincranky]

I dont think articles like this belong on a tech site. Political views and tech do not mix.

All you have is a bunch of inbred fighting.

People should not care who the president is. You cant change it, and bickering like children definitely does not change it.

You're probably right. Well, save for the fact that we have so much fun at it.

You always have the option at your disposal to simply ignore the thread.

Speaking of "bickering like children", you should involve yourself in one of the very prolific, "Intel vs. AMD" threads. They're always quite civil.

Or maybe you'd you'd like to join one of the "group cry ins", involving the scarcity of video cards, particularly mournful and plaintiff, are the sniffles over the conspicuous absence of any of Nvidia's 3xxx series. It practically tears my soul out, to hear supposedly grown men simpering and whimpering ad naseum, brought on by their own spoiled sense of deprivation and addiction.

Maybe you could sing the praises of the 3+ pound piece of horse sh!t, board bending cooler, that Noctua just released, in a strategic effort to destroy the good name of their brand.

We seem to be able to migrate from politics to tech topics quite easily. Maybe that's something you should work into your journalistic skill set. (Instead of making 19 posts, and declaring yourself "editor in chief).

 

[captaincranky]

The actual evolution was from "no one is even alleging fraud" to "well there was fraud, just not much" As for misinformation, your debunked claim that Trump is using campaign contributions to pay his business expenses tops the list so far.

I know of no such reduction. Can you provide a reputable source for that? In fact, according to RealClearPolitics from a week ago, the number has actually risen to 1,700:

I think it's time to remind you of the fact that Donald Trump did not actually win the last election. It was only a trick of the Electoral College that put him into office in the first place. He lost the popular vote in 2016 as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election

He's is, without a doubt a pathological liar. So, if he says, "the election was stolen", at least one person in the country believed it.

He says, "my inauguration was the biggest in history", yet news footage show just about nobody showed up. (At least as compared to Barack Obama's big day).

BTW, when is the corona virus, "just going to disappear", as Trump said it would? Or are you going to claim, "the footage was doctored by the lame stream media, as you so often do?

 

[Endymio]

I think it's time to remind you of the fact that Donald Trump did not actually win the last election. It was only a trick of the Electoral College...He lost the popular vote...

I didn't attend grade school in the United States, but my children did. Each of them learned starting in sixth grade that the US is a republic, not a democracy, and that the presidential "popular vote" is a myth with no constitutional or legal standing. No one "wins an election" by such.

I will be happy to loan you one of their schoolbooks if you wish to verify this.

Trump says, "my inauguration was the biggest in history", yet news footage show just about nobody showed up. (At least as compared to Barack Obama's big day).

I hate to interrupt your rant with facts, but it was actually Sean Spicer who called Trump's inauguration the largest. Trump's beef was with Reuters, who published photos of the event taken early, as the crowd was still arriving.

 

[captaincranky]

I didn't attend grade school in the United States, but my children did. Each of them learned starting in sixth grade that the US is a republic, not a democracy, and that the presidential "popular vote" is a myth with no constitutional or legal standing. No one "wins an election" by such.

I will be happy to loan you one of their schoolbooks if you wish to verify this.

Well, the popular sure seems to matter to you,since you run on page after page about how fraudulent this election's was.

So, save your snot and constitutional; law lesson for somebody that isn't familiar with it, and/or somebody that gives a f**k.

I hate to interrupt your rant with facts, but it was actually Sean Spicer who called Trump's inauguration the largest. Trump's beef was with Reuters, who published photos of the event taken early, as the crowd was still arriving.

There goes that darned "fake news' media again. It's it pity they can't lie to themselves or the American people with the facility of Donald Trump

BTW, Biden says he's going to fumigate the White House before he moves in, since there's bee so many covid spreader events held there.

 

[Arbie]

I know of no such reduction. Can you provide a reputable source for that? In fact, according to RealClearPolitics from a week ago, the number has actually risen to 1,700.

Your basic problem is believing Trump's countless lying tweets, and what you read on alt-right misinformation sites like RCP. Let me Google some real info for you:

The Washington Post

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/voter-fraud-investigations-2020/2020/12/22/bdbe541c-42de-11eb-b0e4-0f182923a025_story.html

The Atlanta Constitution-Journal

Georgia officials overstated election investigations

ATLANTA — For weeks, Georgia’s Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger has defended the state’s handling of the presidential election and criticized those who have continued to push “massive amounts

www.bozemandailychronicle.com

Beyond that, if you truly can't understand a difference between "allegations" and "legal evidence', nor between "massive fraud which calls into question the entire national election", and "count 'em on one hand", nobody can help you.

 

[Crinkles]

I didn't attend grade school in the United States, but my children did. Each of them learned starting in sixth grade that the US is a republic, not a democracy, and that the presidential "popular vote" is a myth with no constitutional or legal standing. No one "wins an election" by such.

I will be happy to loan you one of their schoolbooks if you wish to verify this.

I hate to interrupt your rant with facts, but it was actually Sean Spicer who called Trump's inauguration the largest. Trump's beef was with Reuters, who published photos of the event taken early, as the crowd was still arriving.

Pathos. Logos. Ethos.

 

[scavengerspc]

I didn't attend grade school in the United States, but my children did. Each of them learned starting in sixth grade that the US is a republic

That is not the whole story so you better tell your kids. The US is a Constitutional Federal Republic. My kids learned that before the sixth grade and studied in depth in college. Your type always omits the Constitutional part. Unless the discussion is guns.

Another term thrown around to simplify is Democratic Republic.

I am curious though. Once stripped down, what part of being a Republic most offends you to claim we are not a Democracy?

 

[Arbie]

Once stripped down, what part of being a Republic most offends you to claim we are not a Democracy?

Mr E is just a word-baiter, with no sense of values.

If you warn that "Trump is attacking our democratic process", he won't reply to the main point. Instead he'll argue about the definition of a democracy.

If you bemoan Trump screaming baselessly about massive fraud, he'll argue that somewhere there really was a case of fraud. Etc.

Arguing with him is like wrestling a pig - you both get dirty, but the pig enjoys it.

 

[Endymio]

Let me Google some real info for you...(WaPo link)

Ah, so I should trust the single most anti-Trump paper in existence, a paper which has been sued repeatedly in the past two years from printing false information?

Well, in this case I'm happy to, because nothing in it (nor your "Bozeman Daily Chronicle" link) supports your claim. Did you even read the article? It states that (unnamed) GA officials have revised downward the number of separate investigations from 250 down to 150. However, the doubling-voting case is merely one of those 150 ongoing investigations. The others deal with entirely separate matters: altered ballots, theft of ballots, accusations of vote-buying, etc.

You'll notice WaPo never explicitly mentions the 1,000+ ballot figure in that one specific investigation, possibly because they rely on their less-intelligent or more-distracted readers to fail to grasp to distinction.

Any other matters I can clear up for you?

 

[Endymio]

The US is a Constitutional Federal Republic...Your type always omits the Constitutional part.

On the contrary, I mention it frequently, distinctly and vociferously. I especially do so when pointing out that Obama still holds the record for most acts adjudged unconstitutional by the US Supreme Court: 92 separate times, including 23 by unanimous 9-0 decisions.

I am curious though. Once stripped down, what part of being a Republic most offends you to claim we are not a Democracy?

Despite the proliferous syntactic errors in your word salad, I believe I grasp your meaning. For the answer, I refer you to the Federalist Papers. Men such as James Madison express the problematic nature of mob rule far better than can I.

 

[Endymio]

If you bemoan Trump screaming baselessly about massive fraud...

But that's not what you what said. You said "not one count of fraud was even alleged". A clear lie.

It's right there in Post#20 for all to see, immediately beside your claim that Trump was paying his business debts with campaign contributions. You then used the phrase "pathological liar", a term which which I see you are intimately familiar. Pot, meet kettle.

If you warn that "Trump is attacking our democratic process", he won't reply to the main point.

I have repeatedly, in past threads. Taking a case to court is the very essence of our process: a constitutional right bestowed upon us all.

There have been many Democratic candidates who screamed election fraud after a loss. The media applauds those claims. For instance, Stacey Abrams (on Joe Biden's shortlist for VP) still refuses to concede her 2018 loos, claiming it was stolen from her. Andrew Gillum in Florida made similar claims. In both cases, the media hailed them as heroes for "fighting for democracy": the basest of political bias and hypocrisy.

 

[scavengerspc]

Ah, so I should trust the single most anti-Trump paper in existence, a paper which has been sued repeatedly in the past two years from printing false information?

If all of a sudden that is how you judge a newspaper then fox news must make your panties burst.

For the answer, I refer you to the Federalist Papers. Men such as James Madison express the problematic nature of mob rule far better than can I

There is no answer to my question in there so I will simplify.
What do you personally feel makes the US a Republic but not a Democracy?
Not another persons quote. Not some opinion you have adopted as fact.

I will give you a hint since I will be busy with the Holidays soon. Ready?
Constitutional Federal Republic

@Endymio - Merry Christmas brother.

 

[Endymio]

If all of a sudden that is how you judge a newspaper...

I judge by their veracity. By that measure, WaPo fails miserably.

What do you personally feel makes the US a Republic but not a Democracy?

Why do I believe the US isn't a democracy? An odd question, but no matter. The same reason that I believe that rain is wet, the Allies beat Hitler, and Quisling was a traitor. In other words: I believe in reality and historical fact.

And Merry Christmas to you, as well.