TSMC spends just 10% more on silicon wafers manufactured in the USA than in Taiwan fabs

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A hot potato: TSMC has repeatedly said that funding a new chip-making venture outside Taiwan is very expensive for numerous reasons. However, a new analysis tries to debunk the company's alleged financial issues with building new plants in other parts of the world.

How much does it cost TSMC to start up its new chip-manufacturing plants on US soil? According to a new study by TechInsights, the total amount is nowhere near the financial requirements stated by the Taiwanese corporation. Furthermore, processing silicon wafers in the US is just slightly more expensive than in Asia, according to the study.

TSMC recently confirmed that it will invest hundreds of billions of dollars into its new US venture, with a particular focus on Arizona. The company stated that building new semiconductor plants in the US will take twice as long and cost twice as much as accomplishing the same goal in its homeland. TSMC was also accused by Chinese authorities of "selling off" its business to Washington to try and win Trump's backing over the geopolitical issues in the area.

TechInsights crunched some numbers about TSMC through its Semiconductor Manufacturing Economics' Strategic Cost and Price Model, which is detailed enough to consider individual tools and process steps. The model confirmed that TSMC needs to spend just 10 percent more to process a 300mm chip wafer in Arizona than in Taiwan.

Direct and indirect labor expenses don't make much of a difference either. Employees do cost 200 percent more in the US, TI said, but a modern, fully automated chip manufacturing plant doesn't need many people to begin with. Labor cost is just 2 percent of the whole business expenses, the analysts said.

The single most important factor in setting a new plant up comes from the actual equipment required to "etch" microchips with complex light and chemical processes. Chipmaking machines sold by Europe's ASML, Tokyo Electron, and a few other corporations would account for over two-thirds of wafer cost, but they do tend to have the same sale price both in the US and Taiwan.

TSMC knows more about its internal costs than anyone else, and making apples-to-apples comparisons is difficult when dealing with indirect information. Despite these issues, TI said its model can provide a "definitive" answer to how much the Taiwanese foundry will have to spend on chips "made in the USA." The company is seemingly planning to charge a 30 percent premium on these chips, anyway.

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Lies from Trump are you only expected....but his supporters are willing to believe everything he says.
This word salad aside, nothing in this article came from Trump's mouth.

How are we suppose to have proper conversations about politics when people are setting OTHER PEOPLES cars on fire and literally making up stuff about what Trump is saying.

This was a study done by an independent organization. Further, the Chips Act was Bidens idea, why is it a bad thing now that Trump is actually trying to implement some of the good things the Biden administration proposed? God forbid Trump does something OTHER than run the country into the ground just so you can justify your own opinion.

It's like people don't want facts anymore just so they can be mad about something. There are plenty of good reasons to hate Trump, this is not one of them. If you want to hate Trump, he's already given you a list a mile long.

Good idea under Biden, somehow a bad idea under Trump. People didn't vote *FOR* Trump, they voted against far left nonsense. Harris should have won in a landslide, but it's garbage like what you're saying that handed Trump the Whitehouse.

And until the democrats figure out that being hijacked by the far left is the reason trump was handed the election on a silver plater, we're just going to continue to get crazy Trump like candidates until the US becomes irrelevant
 
Friendlier, maybe? But cheaper? Anyone and everyone knows that's bulls**t.
Even if the wages would be similar (they sort of are in automotive for instance), they are paid in CAD which is 40-45% cheaper because of the exchange.
Someone with my expertise for instance (Senior Automation Design Engineer) would make South of the border 100-150K but American Dollars.

I've been asked repeatedly to go work there for the Detroit 3, Tesla or Lucid but living in the US is not appealing at all to me and my family. Visiting was OK until recently. Not anymore. Only for business, however long that may still last.
 
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Just a thought, if "America is SOOOOO expensive" turned out to be a lie for semiconductors, I wonder what else corpos cry about being "too expensive" wouldnt actually be that expensive if made stateside? Hmmmm.......makes you think.
Perhaps you missed the whole point of the article, perhaps you need to read it at least once in order to understand what is it about.
Perhaps you should take your own advice, you look really silly crying about Trump in an article that doesnt mention him or his actions once, about a foundry that got funding from Biden.
This word salad aside, nothing in this article came from Trump's mouth.

How are we suppose to have proper conversations about politics when people are setting OTHER PEOPLES cars on fire and literally making up stuff about what Trump is saying.

This was a study done by an independent organization. Further, the Chips Act was Bidens idea, why is it a bad thing now that Trump is actually trying to implement some of the good things the Biden administration proposed? God forbid Trump does something OTHER than run the country into the ground just so you can justify your own opinion.

It's like people don't want facts anymore just so they can be mad about something. There are plenty of good reasons to hate Trump, this is not one of them. If you want to hate Trump, he's already given you a list a mile long.

Good idea under Biden, somehow a bad idea under Trump. People didn't vote *FOR* Trump, they voted against far left nonsense. Harris should have won in a landslide, but it's garbage like what you're saying that handed Trump the Whitehouse.

And until the democrats figure out that being hijacked by the far left is the reason trump was handed the election on a silver plater, we're just going to continue to get crazy Trump like candidates until the US becomes irrelevant
You're so close to seeing it. Harris was never going to win in a landslide, you severely underestimate how many in the minority communities HATE her for her actions as california's AG. Remember when she couldn't get 1% of the vote in the primaries?

Most of the hate is on the level of "Thing good if blue, bad if red" tier Reddit thinking. Right now the narrative is trump BAD because CHIPS is spending which is bad and since biden passed it trump is, IDK, stealing it or something, but if he guts it like hes talking about then trump BAD because hes no longer funding the fabs. Something something chess games and pigeons.
Even if the wages would be similar (they sort of are in automotive for instance), they are paid in CAD which is 40-45% cheaper because of the exchange.
Someone with my expertise for instance (Senior Automation Design Engineer) would make South of the border 100-150K but American Dollars.

I've been asked repeatedly to go work there for the Detroit 3, Tesla or Lucid but living in the US is not appealing at all to me and my family. Visiting was OK until recently. Not anymore. Only for business, however long that may still last.
In the real world, America is no different now then it was a year ago. Turn off the news and go outside man, people are just living life. Unless you want to commit crimes, nothing has changed.
 
In the real world, America is no different now then it was a year ago. Turn off the news and go outside man, people are just living life. Unless you want to commit crimes, nothing has changed.
A lot has happened, the relationship between Canada and the US has changed at a fundamental level and the news is affecting my pocket directly.
In the real world there's a saying: with friends like these, who needs enemies?
 
I bet the truth is in the middle. It's not as cheap as this makes it out to be, but not as expensive as TSMC had made it out to be.

In general people overestimate labor costs for this industry. There's so few people involved once things are up and running, it'll be thousands of products for every person onsite making labour costs trivial. Not like highly educated people like that would be cheap in the first place and it's not like Taiwan is some third world country.

The costs will be mostly in materials, equipment, facilities and the water/electricity costs.
* Materials: Supply chain has been set up in Taiwan for ages so likely cheaper there
* Equipment will be pretty much the same, the really expensive stuff (ASMLs machines) Will cost the same just in a different currency
* Facilities, with how important it is to have these... governments are likely to give all kinds of special breaks. Hard to tell (and why Europe cannot compete, no way they'd be willing or able to give the same kind of deals)
* Water/electricity costs are likely pretty similar. The US under Trump's screw the environment policies might even have the upper hand.
 
10% is a lot. Doesn't seem like it when it's just a single wafer, but when you build thousands the costs ramps up pretty damn fast. And you can be sure that TSMC, or any OEM, will eat those costs.
 
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