UK said to consider phasing out Huawei from its 5G deployment

nanoguy

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The big picture: British Prime Minister Boris Johnson is expected to soon reverse the country's decision to allow Chinese telecom giant Huawei a limited role in the development of national 5G infrastructure. The main reason seems to be the company's deteriorating supply chain, which is likely to force it into using untrusted technology that carries new risks.

The US has been pressuring its allies to drop Huawei from any infrastructure project, and even threatened to cut intelligence ties with countries like the UK and Canada if they continue to use 5G equipment from the Chinese tech giant.

Despite those efforts, the UK earlier this year decided that it would still consider using Huawei's cost-effective equipment to build no more than a third of its cellular network capacity over the next three years, with an explicit ban on rolling out that infrastructure at "core" locations such as military bases.

According to a new report from Bloomberg, it looks like the UK government is reconsidering that decision and its potential implications. The context has now changed as a result of new US sanctions that have severed Huawei's ties with some of its biggest hardware and software partners. The Chinese tech giant sought to mitigate the new limitations by spending billions on a two-year stockpile of American chips, but it will soon be forced to look for alternatives.

As a result, the GCHQ's National Cyber Security Centre revised its earlier assessment of Huawei and now recommends that the company be excluded from 5G deployments as soon as possible. Last month, Defense Secretary Ben Wallace welcomed approaches from other telecom equipment providers such as Samsung, Nokia, and NEC.

There's no official timeline yet, but industry associations are already lamenting the potential costs of having to replace Huawei equipment and shift to new suppliers. Some industry insiders expect the government to offer a window of 12 to 18 months for the process.

Huawei Vice President Victor Zhang said in a statement that the company is open to discussions with the UK government on how to best contribute to the country's 5G deployment. He also noted that "it is too early to determine the impact of the proposed restrictions, which are not about security, but about market position."

Other countriess like France are now following in the UK's footsteps with recommendations for telecom companies to avoid using Huawei equipment. Some like Orange have already switched to Ericsson and Nokia equipment, while existing infrastructure built by the Chinese company is only authorized to operate between three and eight years. If anything, Huawei seems to be getting cornered out of every big market they operate in outside of China.

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summermick

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NSA has spied on everyone on the earth for so long, would know if Huawei is spying, and would stop US companies to use Huawei products in the first place. Apparently, NSA either failed their job to find evidence or there has never been evidence to show Huawei is spying.
It's like the AK import ban, which exists because US-made assault rifles failed the competition.
 
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Damocles

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About time Boris grew a pair and told the USA (AND a certain orange person!) to push off and mind their own business. I am sick and tired of hearing about the good ol' boys (not) of the States thinking they can rule the world and the so-called "special relationship" can be stuffed as far as I'm concerned. Just WHERE is the evidence that Huawei has been eavesdropping on ANYBODY? Please speak up or keep quiet and keep your paranoia to yourselves!
 

EClyde

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About time Boris grew a pair and told the USA (AND a certain orange person!) to push off and mind their own business. I am sick and tired of hearing about the good ol' boys (not) of the States thinking they can rule the world and the so-called "special relationship" can be stuffed as far as I'm concerned. Just WHERE is the evidence that Huawei has been eavesdropping on ANYBODY? Please speak up or keep quiet and keep your paranoia to yourselves!
Trump is your friend
 

Alex1105

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How about we ban Google for spying or Microsoft, or Samsung, or Apple, or Facebook.
Oh and how do you know that the "made in China" router that you have in your house doesn't have any Huawei/China parts/software that are used for spying ?
Be fckin real....there is no private data over the internet.
Google tracks your phone/websites, Microsoft also tracks websites/location/etc (and no, it's not limited to windows 10; at least in w10 they tried to be somewhat transparent)
Facebook: OUPS...managed to leak private data yet again. No worries, we'll just sell the same lie and those morons will basically eat the words right out of our mouths like candy; or they don't give a sh1t.
It takes a thief to catch a thief.
 

Burty117

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Still makes me laugh this gets in the news, our 4G networks and large portions of our existing wired internet lines in the UK is all run using Huawei equipment. We're at least 20 years too late to care about them spying on us and if Huawei really was sending vast amounts of data back to China, someone would have noticed 10-15 years ago already.

I find it even funnier that anyone can trust a politician. Even an orange one.
 

Nobonita Barua

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We should put complete no in/out from western countries.
The so called "democracies" never told us, which country's peoples interest they protect, our or theirs?
And more funny thing is that "Democracy is by people, of people, for people " but somehow their companies are too busy telling us how are are not involved with government made by same people.
 

Tams80

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Has the US provided any evidence Huawei is spying using 5G technology? I thought so...
The rest of the world shouldn't be supporting Chinese companies anyway. The possibility of removing spying is just the cherry on top now.
 
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Bp968

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The rest of the world shouldn't be supporting Chinese companies anyway. The possibility of removing spying is just the cherry on top now.
Yah I don't really understand the pro china venting I see here. Chinese spammers maybe? Or are people just so hung up on hating the orange guy they fail to see the real threat in the room? China has made their position and goals clear in the past few years. They became a defacto dictatorship, they put their boot on hong kongs neck, they unleashed a virus on the world as a result of trying to "save face" and look good and now they are trying to spin the entire thing as China magnanimously "saving" the world from the evil virus. Oh and they have re-education camps for millions of people they don't like.

Im sure someone will jump in with some "whataboutism" but the reality is, you don't need to pick a side, you can hate the US president *and* hate the Chinese government and what it's doing. The two are not mutually exclusive.

It might be worth paying attention to Russia as well. It wasn't that long ago they invaded another country, and now they are a full on dictatorship as well, and they have the largest number of nuclear weapons on the planet.

It's
 
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Underdog

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I have always had a hard time getting my head around the idea that the US insists that it has the only permissible form of government. Dictatorships appear to be frowned upon (unless the dictator was put in place by the US). As soon as the dictator stops dancing to the tune, he is declared an enemy and soon becomes the target of "regime change" in pursuit of some high American ideal. Socialism is considered a swear word, and Communism is soo terrible beyond belief. Who gives the States the right to Dictate how the entire world should live? Clearly it is world economic domination that the US seeks.
 

Tams80

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I have always had a hard time getting my head around the idea that the US insists that it has the only permissible form of government. Dictatorships appear to be frowned upon (unless the dictator was put in place by the US). As soon as the dictator stops dancing to the tune, he is declared an enemy and soon becomes the target of "regime change" in pursuit of some high American ideal. Socialism is considered a swear word, and Communism is soo terrible beyond belief. Who gives the States the right to Dictate how the entire world should live? Clearly it is world economic domination that the US seeks.
While it is true the US (and many other major countries) are self-serving, point me to one dictatorship that is good for the people of the country that has it. There are a few historic examples, but point to one that hasn't gone to **** pretty quickly. Answer: none.

And democracy can take several forms, so saying that it's too exclusionary is rather silly.