Valve, Discord, Reddit, and Twitch CEOs called to testify before Congress on online radicalization

[midian182]

What just happened? The CEOs of Valve, Discord, Reddit, and Twitch have been asked to testify before the US House Oversight Committee at a hearing on online radicalization. The request comes in the aftermath of the assassination of Charlie Kirk, whose suspected killer was reportedly deeply immersed in online culture and used Discord to discuss the shooting.

House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman James Comer sent letters to Gabe Newell of Valve, Twitch CEO Dan Clancy, Reddit boss Steve Huffman, and Discord CEO Humam Sakhnini, requesting their testimony on October 8.

According to the letters, the hearing will examine the radicalization of online forum users, including instances of open incitement to commit politically motivated acts.

"To prevent future radicalization and violence, the CEOs of Discord, Steam, Twitch, and Reddit must appear before the Oversight Committee and explain what actions they will take to ensure their platforms are not exploited for nefarious purposes," Comer said.

The committee is currently only asking the CEOs to attend; they have not been subpoenaed.

Following the shooting, it was revealed that investigators had found bullet casings with engraved messages referencing Helldivers 2, a meme about furries and online role-play, and a gotcha meme.

Suspected shooter Tyler Robinson also reportedly confessed to the shooting in a Discord group chat. FBI Director Kash Patel said there were more than 20 people in the group and the agency was "running them all down."

This won't be the first time that online forum CEOs have been called to testify over how their platforms are used for radicalization and criminal activities. Reddit's Huffman testified before the House Committee on Energy and Commerce in 2021 about misinformation and extremism online. The site has long faced scrutiny over extremist or illegal communities.

Following the Christchurch, Poway, and El Paso mass shootings in 2019, 8chan/8kun owner Jim Watkins was called to testify before the US House Homeland Security Committee about the site's role in spreading extremist content.

While Facebook is not a forum in the traditional sense, Meta's Mark Zuckerberg testified multiple times before US Congress and European Parliament over issues including the spread of terrorist propaganda, extremist recruitment, and misinformation.

Twitch and Discord, meanwhile, were both investigated by New Jersey's Attorney General following a 2022 mass shooting in Buffalo. The investigation looked into whether the platforms broke state consumer protection laws by not removing harmful content or enforcing rules against extremism and hate.

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Valve, Discord, Reddit, and Twitch CEOs called to testify before Congress on online radicalization

 

[GeoffreyA]

Will this solve the elephant in the room, gun control and gun culture?

 

[Zintin]

They should also pull the CEOs of major hotels for hosting gathering of bankers because they also perform shady/illegal acts as well. Oh wait they are in the interests of those in the Federal government so they don't care.

 

[MonicaPython2]

For making these platforms more secure a user registration by ID would be nice

 

[Theinsanegamer]

Well, we've spent the last 20 years training the youth to think it's OK to hate, be angry, or use violence if the targets are the correct mix of "oppressive" traits. We constantly preach how terrible some people are, how they are responsible for all wrong with the world, that they are literal nazis and fascists, and we're surprised that disenfranchised youth are committing atrocities against these people?

The underlying issue here is the government, and by extension the media, pushing narratives blaming others for their problems and creating a permanent victim class that sees others that are prescribed as "evil" as responsible for their suffering.

For making these platforms more secure a user registration by ID would be nice

No. Stop trying to remove privacy because governments refuse to solve actual problems.

Will this solve the elephant in the room, gun control and gun culture?

Remove guns and they'll switch to something else. Mexico, as an example, has incredibly strict gun laws. Yet somehow, people keep getting killed.

Fun fact: the gun control legislature we are familiar with got its start from the NRA, who sponsored it in response to minorities gaining access to firearm ownership. Make of that what you will.

 

[Vanderlinde]

Funny. When the most hateful, racist comments are being made in public discord, reporting it only leads to an AI moderation that determines it's OK.

You really have to go through hoops when people are getting actively doxed. All of those platforms are utterly garbage.

 

[GeoffreyA]

Well, we've spent the last 20 years training the youth to think it's OK to hate, be angry, or use violence if the targets are the correct mix of "oppressive" traits. We constantly preach how terrible some people are, how they are responsible for all wrong with the world, that they are literal nazis and fascists, and we're surprised that disenfranchised youth are committing atrocities against these people?

The underlying issue here is the government, and by extension the media, pushing narratives blaming others for their problems and creating a permanent victim class that sees others that are prescribed as "evil" as responsible for their suffering.

No. Stop trying to remove privacy because governments refuse to solve actual problems.
Remove guns and they'll switch to something else. Mexico, as an example, has incredibly strict gun laws. Yet somehow, people keep getting killed.

Fun fact: the gun control legislature we are familiar with got its start from the NRA, who sponsored it in response to minorities gaining access to firearm ownership. Make of that what you will.

I think the problem has many roots, as you point out, hatred and "othering" being among the chief, especially in America. One committing an atrocity in public might be driven by racial or religious hatred. An atrocity in a school may have roots in bullying, humiliation, and the absorbing of violent ideology. In these cases, not having access to guns could save lives, even if it doesn't solve the problem. A cultural shift, one that promotes unity and compassion, might, along with the tearing down and rebuilding of a debased media.

In South Africa, we have one of the highest rates of murder in the world---I think we beat Mexico---yet guns are strictly controlled. Here, it comes from rampant crime, violence, and a history of inequality and socioeconomic ills. I'd guess in Mexico, it's a similar story.

 

[JMGuy]

I think the problem has many roots, as you point out, hatred and "othering" being among the chief, especially in America. One committing an atrocity in public might be driven by racial or religious hatred. An atrocity in a school may have roots in bullying, humiliation, and the absorbing of violent ideology. In these cases, not having access to guns could save lives, even if it doesn't solve the problem. A cultural shift, one that promotes unity and compassion, might, along with the tearing down and rebuilding of a debased media.

In South Africa, we have one of the highest rates of murder in the world---I think we beat Mexico---yet guns are strictly controlled. Here, it comes from rampant crime, violence, and a history of inequality and socioeconomic ills. I'd guess in Mexico, it's a similar story.

Absolutely agree.

I am not a gun owner myself, and I’m open to the idea of stricter gun enforcement. But the idea that “gun culture” is the problem here is a significant over-simplification and borderline straw-man argument at best.

I also disagree with the majority of Charlie Kirk’s messages. However, the extreme cognitive dissonance it requires to murder someone because you are “tired of their hate speech,” as described in the shooters txts, as though that action isn’t a wholly worse hate crime in every sense imaginable, makes you the bad guy, and completely destroys anything you stand for, is just other-level crazy.

Same goes for the batshit folks defending the assassination of the United Healthcare CEO.

It’s an entire culture of people who don’t realize the irony and hypocrisy of their own ideology. “All these other people are hateful and horrible authoritarians. They should think more like me or they should die.” Anti-fascist fascists might be a term I would use here.

 

[axiomatic13]

I will never understand the rabid defense of a person that said some truly awful things. I would cite some, but I'm on thin ice here at Techspot. More posts of mine deleted yesterday.

 

[Alfonso Maruccia]

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[Karlos95]

Absolutely agree.

I am not a gun owner myself, and I’m open to the idea of stricter gun enforcement. But the idea that “gun culture” is the problem here is a significant over-simplification and borderline straw-man argument at best.

I also disagree with the majority of Charlie Kirk’s messages. However, the extreme cognitive dissonance it requires to murder someone because you are “tired of their hate speech,” as described in the shooters txts, as though that action isn’t a wholly worse hate crime in every sense imaginable, makes you the bad guy, and completely destroys anything you stand for, is just other-level crazy.

Same goes for the batshit folks defending the assassination of the United Healthcare CEO.

It’s an entire culture of people who don’t realize the irony and hypocrisy of their own ideology. “All these other people are hateful and horrible authoritarians. They should think more like me or they should die.” Anti-fascist fascists might be a term I would use here.

What hate speech? He debates people. The left media pull clips that make it sound like hate. If you actually watch a full clip he is discussing his side. Just because the other side doesn't have a logical argument against it doesn't make it hate speech.

If you can actually point out where he has said some hate speech, I'd be open to viewing it. Because I have seen a lot of his debating videos and never once advocated for hate, quite the opposite actually.

 

[axiomatic13]

Well, here I go. If I get banned again. Much love everyone. I cannot let the BS stand unopposed.

Karlos95, no, he does not just debate people. He punches down.

Examples of Charlie Kirk punching down:
-Stoning gay people is "God's perfect law"
-Trans people are to blame for inflation
-Call to overturn hate crime convictions
-We should have “just took care of” trans people
-Trans people are a "throbbing middle finger to God”
-Doctors treating trans patients need "Nuremberg-style trial"
-Trans people are a "social contagion"
-Calling gender-affirming care 'child mutilation'
-Jan. 6 rioters should've had gay sex
-Imane Khelif and trans people are "pure evil"
-Blaming mass shootings on the "trans medical industry"

Source with links to Kirk's tweets. https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/charlie-kirk-did-stoning-gay-120003332.html

 

[Karlos95]

Well, here I go. If I get banned again. Much love everyone. I cannot let the BS stand unopposed.

Karlos95, no, he does not just debate people. He punches down.

Examples of Charlie Kirk punching down:
-Stoning gay people is "God's perfect law"
-Trans people are to blame for inflation
-Call to overturn hate crime convictions
-We should have “just took care of” trans people
-Trans people are a "throbbing middle finger to God”
-Doctors treating trans patients need "Nuremberg-style trial"
-Trans people are a "social contagion"
-Calling gender-affirming care 'child mutilation'
-Jan. 6 rioters should've had gay sex
-Imane Khelif and trans people are "pure evil"
-Blaming mass shootings on the "trans medical industry"

Source with links to Kirk's tweets. https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/charlie-kirk-did-stoning-gay-120003332.html

Again, out of context. You people are ridiculous. The first 2 links aren't even his own tweets, my god.
Link me to a full video not out of context where he does say any of that. Go on.

If you think those takes are bad, why import muslims? they have the same takes, if not worse.

 

[axiomatic13]

Again, out of context. You people are ridiculous. The first 2 links aren't even his own tweets, my god.
Link me to a full video not out of context where he does say any of that. Go on.

If you think those takes are bad, why import muslims? they have the same takes, if not worse.

Those are people tweeting about what he said in videos. Good luck with that angle.

 

[gamerk2]

No. Stop trying to remove privacy because governments refuse to solve actual problems.
Remove guns and they'll switch to something else. Mexico, as an example, has incredibly strict gun laws. Yet somehow, people keep getting killed.

Because America sells guns to Mexico by the truckload, and the Mexican government doesn't have the money/resources to fight against cartels that are more heavily armed then their military is.

 

[Karlos95]

Those are people tweeting about what he said in videos. Good luck with that angle.

Exactly. People who obviously have an agenda. Again, show me a video not out of context where he actually says any of what you stated and meant it the way you are describing.

Shouldn't be too hard considering "he was all about hate". You don't have a leg to stand on until you can actually show evidence. A full video, not a hit piece made up by opposing views. Because unlike you lot claiming he was hateful, he actually admitted when he was wrong when a good argument was shown to him.

 

[Karlos95]

Because America sells guns to Mexico by the truckload, and the Mexican government doesn't have the money/resources to fight against cartels that are more heavily armed then their military is.

Thanks to Trump, those cartels are now considered terrorist organisations.

 

[Liranan]

The road to hell is paved with (false) good intentions.

Many here call for a digital gulag, not realising that they will be the victim of the control that they wish to wield over others. History is replete with many examples of 'good intentions' (under false pretenses) having gone awry. This is why we have the saying: Revolutions eat their own children. We can see how a certain, loving group, who were staunch supporters of cancel culture have now fallen victim to their own ideology. But, instead of self reflection, this group double down and ask for even more censorship, blindly jumping off a cliff, to their own demise.

Nobody learns history, which is why it repeats itself.

 

[Karlos95]

The road to hell is paved with (false) good intentions.

Many here call for a digital gulag, not realising that they will be the victim of the control that they wish to wield over others. History of replete with many examples of 'good intentions' (under false pretenses) having gone awry. This is why we have the saying: Revolutions eat their own children. We can see how a certain, loving group, who were staunch supporters of cancel culture have now fallen victim to their own ideology. But, instead of self reflection, this group double down and ask for even more censorship, blindly jumping off a cliff, to their own demise.

Nobody learns history, which is why it repeats itself.

Beautiful take.

Unfortunately, many do not see the divide tactics and why they are pushing the same thing from both sides. All about control, 2 sides to a coin but usually one handling that coin can manipulate which side it lands...

I was a lefty pre-covid, righty post-covid and now, it becomes even more clear that no matter which side it is, they want total and utter control.

Had the democrats got in, it was going to be Digital ID (check UK, Australia and Canada, all going for the lefty side of control and oversight), but now that Trump is in, it's Palantir, and if JD Vance gets in after Trump, he will push the same.

Makes you wonder who is at the top doing all of this. Web of money and organisations all agreeing on one thing, data harvesting everyone and using that to make more money and have total and utter control over your privacy.

 

[mbk34]

I'm surprised YouTube isn't on that list to. When it shows me videos, it will always be videos that agree with my opinions. So it might be political things like Trump's latest foolish ramblings, the genocide in Gaza, the war in Ukraine etc etc. By only showing me videos that agree with my point of view it obviously leads to a positive feedback loop. That doesn't mean I'm radicalised but it does lead to a polarisation of opinion. I have to actively search for a video to show me an alternative point of view.

I guess it's the issue with only showing people what they want to see. People naturally gravitate to people who have the same opinion. With the internet this is so much easier and we can always find likeminded people somewhere. Again, it's that positive feedback loop. I should say I don't only get fed videos on politics, YT seems to recognise that I'm human and gives me videos on sailboats and young ladies surfing as well.

 

[OortCloud]

They need to get the real culprits in the room - Meta, X/Twitter, Truth Social and Fox These companies actively spread misinformation, and exploit and encourage division and discord for financial gain whatever the social cost.

 

[UZzzz]

Will this solve the elephant in the room, gun control and gun culture?

FYI in countries such Russia there is a strick control of guns but it does not prevent no one from obtain it for school shooting (here is the only competition Russia stays on pair or at least close to the US) or for terrorists group's to commit terroristic attack in Russia.
So there is no elephant in room it could happen even in contries witth strict laws about guns control.

 

[whateversa]

These people will just flock to some other smaller service that allows their extremist conversations. And when that service gets bigger and enforces rules, they'll just move again and again to services that do allow them or that cannot be influenced by the USA.

 

[GeoffreyA]

FYI in countries such Russia there is a strick control of guns but it does not prevent no one from obtain it for school shooting (here is the only competition Russia stays on pair or at least close to the US) or for terrorists group's to commit terroristic attack in Russia.
So there is no elephant in room it could happen even in contries witth strict laws about guns control.

Fair enough. Could it be a problem related to hatred, division, and cultures steeped in violence? I say that coming from a country whose murder rate is in the top 10, crimes are violent, but firearm laws are strict.

 

[lonetac]

Again, out of context. You people are ridiculous. The first 2 links aren't even his own tweets, my god.
Link me to a full video not out of context where he does say any of that. Go on.

If you think those takes are bad, why import muslims? they have the same takes, if not worse.

Ive been watching kirk for years. Trying to say he is anything but a bigoted racist is just straight up not being honest with yourself or with what he said.

This whitewashing needs to stop.

Context argument has sailed. And no, Im not going to sit here and link every podcast and thing he said. You have already shown you are in this discussion in bad faith. You are not fooling anyone with this mindless defense.