Valve, Discord, Reddit, and Twitch CEOs called to testify before Congress on online radicalization

[lonetac]

They need to get the real culprits in the room - Meta, X/Twitter, Truth Social and Fox These companies actively spread misinformation, and exploit and encourage division and discord for financial gain whatever the social cost.

This is the big one. You will notice the social medias that kiss the king's hand are not being called in for discussion. X is filled with more hate than anything I have seen on the internet yet they are not mentioned.

Twitch was pulled out of thin air for a specific person that a certain billionaire is calling to be cancelled. That certain billionaire owns X. Shocking.

The corruption is so blatantly obvious.

 

[Plutoisaplanet]

Well, here I go. If I get banned again. Much love everyone. I cannot let the BS stand unopposed.

Karlos95, no, he does not just debate people. He punches down.

Examples of Charlie Kirk punching down:
-Stoning gay people is "God's perfect law"

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Source with links to Kirk's tweets. https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/charlie-kirk-did-stoning-gay-120003332.html

I'm only going to respond to the first one because it's a long list and I don't have time to point out that every single one of these statements is either out of context, or not hateful statements.

But for this one, he did not say stoning people is God's perfect law lol. First, he was responding to a pro-LGBTQ+ minister who was celebrating pride month and quoting the bible to support LGBTQ+ lifestyles. What Charlie Kirk did was quote a verse of the very next chapter of that bible to show that the position is a hypocritical one.

Anyways he referenced the full verse of Leviticus 20:13 (though inaccurately): "thou shall lay with another man shall be stoned to death." It roughly says the same thing: "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."

He wasn't advocating for the deaths of anyone; Christians don't have punishments for violating God's law. Leviticus is from the Old Testament, which comes before Jesus' time. In fact, that's pretty much the entire point of Christianity which is that Jesus brought salvation with his sacrifice. To reinforce this, he said that the law, not the punishment was perfect. Not even all laws are followed by Christians, only the ones about morality. The other laws in the old Testament were judicial, ceremonial, etc. and can be considered not God's law. For further reading (it also calls God's law perfect): https://matthewruttan.com/2024/05/02/are-old-testament-laws-still-relevant-for-christians/

He also never took down the video, because surely if he advocated for the deaths of people based on the type of sex they have, people including myself would be pointing this out and agree with you. He wouldn't have 15M+ followers. In fact, he said the exact opposite:

 

[axiomatic13]

My final words on the topic.

 

[JSabin]

Figured an article such as this would explode in heated rhetoric. Thanks. Am not disappointed.

 

[Karlos95]

Ive been watching kirk for years. Trying to say he is anything but a bigoted racist is just straight up not being honest with yourself or with what he said.

This whitewashing needs to stop.

Context argument has sailed. And no, Im not going to sit here and link every podcast and thing he said. You have already shown you are in this discussion in bad faith. You are not fooling anyone with this mindless defense.

I said to link 1. The fact you can't link 1 shows that you are wrong. All you need is 1 link to prove me wrong and still can't do that.

I doubt you have watched 1 full debate.

 

[pcnthuziast]

None of this matters anymore because the empire known as America is on the verge of collapse and a huge domestic conflict is looming. Not even valid to call us the United States anymore because unity has been a thing of the past for years and will never be possible again. Both sides are all in on us vs them and there is no going back.

 

[Karlos95]

None of this matters anymore because the empire known as America is on the verge of collapse and a huge domestic conflict is looming. Not even valid to call us the United States anymore because unity has been a thing of the past for years and will never be possible again. Both sides are all in on us vs them and there is no going back.

I'd argue the whole west is on the verge of collapse.

The US seems to be the only western country with a fighting chance, but a slim one at that.

 

[lonetac]

I said to link 1. The fact you can't link 1 shows that you are wrong. All you need is 1 link to prove me wrong and still can't do that.

I doubt you have watched 1 full debate.

Oh ive been watching him for years. You cant fool people who know who he is. Lying does you a disservice.

No, im not going to debate lord you and watch you word salad out of every conversation he had. Ive seen your posts and you dont discuss in good faith, especially on this topic.

You cant whitewash his hateful career. You saying it aint so doesnt make it so. Prove he wasnt!

The doxing of teachers should be enough to get anyone to denounce him but yet here you are.

Both can play this stupid game. Anyone can go watch him and decide for themselves and avoid useless conversations with folks who have their heads dug in the sand and only hear what they want.

Make no mistake, I know exactly what and who he is as I now do you. And I have absolutely nothing to prove to a random dude on the internet. I am not here to convince you, you already have your head dug in the sand. You are not going to be honest as you have already shown.

 

[Karlos95]

Oh ive been watching him for years. You cant fool people who know who he is. Lying does you a disservice.

No, im not going to debate lord you and watch you word salad out of every conversation he had. Ive seen your posts and you dont discuss in good faith, especially on this topic.

You cant whitewash his hateful career. You saying it aint so doesnt make it so. Prove he wasnt!

The doxing of teachers should be enough to get anyone to denounce him but yet here you are.

Both can play this stupid game. Anyone can go watch him and decide for themselves and avoid useless conversations with folks who have their heads dug in the sand and only hear what they want.

Make no mistake, I know exactly what and who he is as I now do you. And I have absolutely nothing to prove to a random dude on the internet. I am not here to convince you, you already have your head dug in the sand. You are not going to be honest as you have already shown.

You are obviously lying about how long you have watched him.
If you did watch him for years you could prove it with a single full length debate. But alas, here we are, you are accusing me of doing word salad to get out of a debate and you are doing exactly that. I am asking for 1 link to a full video where he does any of the stuff you accuse him of.


The fact there is a bunch of you watching this thread thinking he does any of that yet can't come up with a single link. Honestly, no wonder your side had to take him out. Cannot debate for ****.

 

[lonetac]

You are obviously lying about how long you have watched him.
If you did watch him for years you could prove it with a single full length debate. But alas, here we are, you are accusing me of doing word salad to get out of a debate and you are doing exactly that. I am asking for 1 link to a full video where he does any of the stuff you accuse him of.


The fact there is a bunch of you watching this thread thinking he does any of that yet can't come up with a single link. Honestly, no wonder your side had to take him out. Cannot debate for ****.

Im not lying. You have clearly never watched him and are repeating what you were told by your fringe right wing groups.

Ive watched him more than you probably have, its my hobby after all.

He should be alive, his death was wrong. But it doesnt mean he is a good man. Im sorry this happened to you, I do believe in empathy, even if he didnt. I dont have sympathy for you, I have empathy. If it was my guy, I would be pissed but I wouldnt expect the same from you, I already know how you would respond. Empathy is woke, I get it.

If I did agree with one of his topics, release the Epstein files.

Im not hear to debate you, you have made up your mind. Nothing can be said, I have nothing to prove to you and you are not fooling anyone.

All his content is there for everyone to go make their own decisions instead of listening to blatant liars like you trying to rewrite history.

You are desperate for validation and for him to be liked but many dont because he was a terrifically horrible person of which I did give an example and you blazed over it like a good pioneer.

More proof you are not being honest, you are only interested in being right, not discussing. There is no point in discussing with brain rot.

My side? What is my side? He came from a right wing family, mormon family, referenced groupers, dressed as donald trump and pepe... my side?

Right wing violence is the most prominent kind of political violence. I am assuming you are right wing based on your ridiculous attempt at white washing what Kirk was and how he treated people. "your" people are responsible for the overwhelming amount of political violence in this country and now you have 0 credibility saying "my side" took him out when I dont have a side. I just live in truth, not fake made up fantasy land where bullying is looked at as a debate tactic.

Just take a step back and look at yourself. Its embarassing. You dont even know the political leanings of the killer and yet here you are acting like you know something even the FBI said they dont have any evidence to support. Your gig is up, youve shown your intentions and why I wont discuss with you. You make it up as you go to make yourself sound like you are right.

I am more and more starting to believe you really never did watch him as your lies and dishonesty gets put on full display along with your fake manufactured programed partisan political bias.

 

[Karlos95]

Im not lying. You have clearly never watched him and are repeating what you were told by your fringe right wing groups.

Ive watched him more than you probably have, its my hobby after all.

He should be alive, his death was wrong. But it doesnt mean he is a good man. Im sorry this happened to you, I do believe in empathy, even if he didnt. I dont have sympathy for you, I have empathy. If it was my guy, I would be pissed but I wouldnt expect the same from you, I already know how you would respond. Empathy is woke, I get it.

If I did agree with one of his topics, release the Epstein files.

Im not hear to debate you, you have made up your mind. Nothing can be said, I have nothing to prove to you and you are not fooling anyone.

All his content is there for everyone to go make their own decisions instead of listening to blatant liars like you trying to rewrite history.

You are desperate for validation and for him to be liked but many dont because he was a terrifically horrible person of which I did give an example and you blazed over it like a good pioneer.

More proof you are not being honest, you are only interested in being right, not discussing. There is no point in discussing with brain rot.

My side? What is my side? He came from a right wing family, mormon family, referenced groupers, dressed as donald trump and pepe... my side?

Right wing violence is the most prominent kind of political violence. I am assuming you are right wing based on your ridiculous attempt at white washing what Kirk was and how he treated people. "your" people are responsible for the overwhelming amount of political violence in this country and now you have 0 credibility saying "my side" took him out when I dont have a side. I just live in truth, not fake made up fantasy land where bullying is looked at as a debate tactic.

Just take a step back and look at yourself. Its embarassing. You dont even know the political leanings of the killer and yet here you are acting like you know something even the FBI said they dont have any evidence to support. Your gig is up, youve shown your intentions and why I wont discuss with you. You make it up as you go to make yourself sound like you are right.

I am more and more starting to believe you really never did watch him as your lies and dishonesty gets put on full display along with your fake manufactured programed partisan political bias.

"Empathy is woke, I get it." Lol well most of the right must be woke then. Because they aren't the rioters or the ones killing their political enemies.



All that word salad and still not 1 link. It's simple to prove, yet you can't prove it. Nice work in proving yourself wrong.

He believed in what he said and asked people to disprove him. And when you guys couldn't disprove you shot him.

Yes, he was becoming woke himself, asking questions about you know who, even about Oct 7. That's why I don't think the lone gunman holds up.

I don't have a political bias, you obviously do. I question everything. Unlike the left who follow their leaders like a cult. I believe every "leader" is questionable as I don't think the elites would let you get that high up without some control. Hence the Charlie conspiracy. And it's quite obvious the killer was leftwing. What a stupid comment to make "You dont even know the political leanings of the killer"

Still, if you can't show one full debate video proving he was about hate (and not some leftwing cope cutting a video out of context) then just stop replying, I gave you an out and still couldn't deliver. It isn't my job to prove he isn't racist (since there is plenty of evidence for that), your political bias is showing, you don't want to try to find a video and just believe all the smears against him from the left wing agenda.

 

[lonetac]

The left is a cult... LOL.

Brother, I am not the one who just misrepresented Kirk's killer according to all known information by the FBI and the FBI's admission they have found no link to leftist groups.

Right wing violence accounts for a overwhelming majority of political violence but you are talking about leftists. Its 2025, this information is publicly available and you just doing yourself more and more disservice as anyone reading this can simply google it or knows of the DoJ's recent attempts at suppressing this information. its like you have made up your own reality.

You question everything? Yeah, it really shows... *sarcasm*. You know, when you want to know who someone is, all you have to do is listen.

its just clearer and clearer with every response how desperate you are for validation.

The reason nobody will engage you on this topic is how obviously biased you are and brainwashed clearly.

"The left is a cult", so precious. "Your people killed him", I mean listen to yourself. You are filled with hate and political posturing bias. Thats not me showing my colors, thats you. You literally lied to everyone about who killed Kirk and made assumptions and you expect me to engage you with good faith? Why would I? I can quote you misleading, misrepresenting and lie'ing about the whole situation. You clearly cant be honest.

Im not here to debate you or prove anything to you. I already know you will deflect, deny and lie as you havent been honest in one response. You have proven you cant talk here in good faith, nobody is going to talk to you.

Charlie didnt believe in debate. He believed in belittling, badgering, denigrating and bashing folks who were easy targets and much younger. He couldnt hold his own on any talks with someone equal to his prowess as shown many times. Bullying college kids to build sound bites isnt debating. The right is desperate to try and spin this narrative, nope, its not going to work. Everyone can go watch for themselves, they dont need to debate it with you.

I dont watch leftists news pal, Ive been watching Kirk for years with my own eyes, I knew what he was before you did when he was plastered all over the news. You never heard of him prior to his death because this is how you operate. Fake manufactured outrage. I have taken nothing out of context, its just your desperate attempt for more validation. its obvious by your responses you had no idea who he was.

The classic context rebuttal. I think you listen to too much fox news and right wing propaganda as you are repeating verbatim what they say. Try thinking for once on your own without someone telling you what to think. You might find it liberating.

Feel free to let your ego respond back, There is no more to say on this topic with someone who is so far out from being honest.

 

[axiomatic13]

The left is a cult... LOL.

Brother, I am not the one who just misrepresented Kirk's killer according to all known information by the FBI and the FBI's admission they have found no link to leftist groups.

Right wing violence accounts for a overwhelming majority of political violence but you are talking about leftists. Its 2025, this information is publicly available and you just doing yourself more and more disservice as anyone reading this can simply google it or knows of the DoJ's recent attempts at suppressing this information. its like you have made up your own reality.

You question everything? Yeah, it really shows... *sarcasm*. You know, when you want to know who someone is, all you have to do is listen.

its just clearer and clearer with every response how desperate you are for validation.

The reason nobody will engage you on this topic is how obviously biased you are and brainwashed clearly.

"The left is a cult", so precious. "Your people killed him", I mean listen to yourself. You are filled with hate and political posturing bias. Thats not me showing my colors, thats you. You literally lied to everyone about who killed Kirk and made assumptions and you expect me to engage you with good faith? Why would I? I can quote you misleading, misrepresenting and lie'ing about the whole situation. You clearly cant be honest.

Im not here to debate you or prove anything to you. I already know you will deflect, deny and lie as you havent been honest in one response. You have proven you cant talk here in good faith, nobody is going to talk to you.

Charlie didnt believe in debate. He believed in belittling, badgering, denigrating and bashing folks who were easy targets and much younger. He couldnt hold his own on any talks with someone equal to his prowess as shown many times. Bullying college kids to build sound bites isnt debating. The right is desperate to try and spin this narrative, nope, its not going to work. Everyone can go watch for themselves, they dont need to debate it with you.

I dont watch leftists news pal, Ive been watching Kirk for years with my own eyes, I knew what he was before you did when he was plastered all over the news. You never heard of him prior to his death because this is how you operate. Fake manufactured outrage. I have taken nothing out of context, its just your desperate attempt for more validation. its obvious by your responses you had no idea who he was.

The classic context rebuttal. I think you listen to too much fox news and right wing propaganda as you are repeating verbatim what they say. Try thinking for once on your own without someone telling you what to think. You might find it liberating.

Feel free to let your ego respond back, There is no more to say on this topic with someone who is so far out from being honest.

Karlos95 is not arguing in good faith. He was already provided videos and tweets of proof. When he brushed that off, I quit interacting with him. I think you should too? He's a Kirk sycophant.