Watch Microsoft's next-generation Xbox reveal event live

[Lionvibez]

Hmm... maybe used games will be a lot cheaper now at retail, to make up for the small fee (if that's the case, I can't see why it would bug me much)...

haha ya right.

most of us will die of old age before that happens.

 

[theBest11778]

There's no innovation here. Pre-Xbox 360, online console gaming was pretty much limited to Halo 2... PS3 and 360 brought consoles to the world of online multiplayer. They introduced on demand HD video streaming, Microsoft introduced smartglass & Kinect, both consoles set wireless as the standard. What do you get with next gen...??? The same thing only a bit better. WOOOOW! Guys this is totally science here. There's nothing brought to the table that makes either console really interesting if you game on a PC. If you only play on consoles, then sure it's a HW upgrade, but if you're like me, and like unique features that your PC cannot do, then you'd be as disappointed as I am.

The only silver lining is both systems are X64/X86 which means all games will be made with PC in mind first, then optimized for each system. I'd recommend spending your $1000 on an Nvidia Titan instead of buying these two systems.

 

[Jad Chaar]

Can anyone tell me which will be the most powerful? Since we don't know that much about the processor (at least for the PS4, I have heard this is a customized Jaguar), lets just assume they are the same: I am interested in the RAM.

Will the PS4 perform better because it uses GDDR5 instead of DDR3? Will it run games better, but all the other stuff not as much?
Thanks!

The PS4's GDDR5 will provide better performance than the xboxs DDR3.

 

[davislane1]

I'll wait to draw any solid conclusions until E3, but this is looking to be advantage Sony at the moment. The specs of both systems, while improved, are largely irrelevant when we are talking about consoles. What's important, and where MS has apparently dropped the ball, is in the purpose of the product. Instead of making the next great gaming platform, they've created a media center. Moreover, this used game nonsense is a kick to the balls of their core audience. If they don't come out of the gates with an impressive library of exclusives the Playstation 4 will do the One what the 360 did to the Playstation 3.

 

[Vrmithrax]

I was rather amused when I saw the tag line "For Gamers. By Gamers." Apparently they were too busy polishing up the Kinect gesture/voice interface (which was pretty much all that was interesting in the presentation), and couldn't be bothered to come up with their own tag line, so they just snagged the one that Razer has been using for years... Well played, Microsoft.

 

[Jad Chaar]

I'll wait to draw any solid conclusions until E3, but this is looking to be advantage Sony at the moment. The specs of both systems, while improved, are largely irrelevant when we are talking about consoles. What's important, and where MS has apparently dropped the ball, is in the purpose of the product. Instead of making the next great gaming platform, they've created a media center. Moreover, this used game nonsense is a kick to the balls of their core audience. If they don't come out of the gates with an impressive library of exclusives the Playstation 4 will do the One what the 360 did to the Playstation 3.

Well said. I think this was well played by Sony. They waited it out! This may have angered some, but it may make a better product in the end. Also, Sony actually showed off long gameplays, not snippets like MS did. I agree with you about the xbox being a media center. They took it a bit too far. For example, I wouldnt even be able to use the xbox as a set top box since I have a DVR, and the xbox cant do that (plus it would take up too much space).

 

[learninmypc]

I just saw it on my local news & they always make it sound much easier than it will be.

 

[spydercanopus]

This is everything the Internet giants wanted to achieve in 2000:
Computer Chronicles:
http://archive.org/details/Showcase2000

 

[dennis777]

Their presentation is better than the PS4 yet
im disappointed on fees. I wonder how will they implement it? Kinda hard, they try them in the PC and the ones suffering are legit owners who bought them.
-> tie a game to the console (console broke, replace by a new one, need to pay for another fee?)
-> tie a game to an account (you have no internet at home, how to activate a game?)

 

[psycros]

All of you talking up the whole "install a game on my friend's XB1, log into my account and play" are overlooking something: the game isn't just tied to your account. Its also tied for your console. You'll have the pay for the game AGAIN to play it on a second console. Microsoft has done something amazing with the XB1: they've actually exceeded how bad I thought it would be.

 

[Chazz]

I'll wait to draw any solid conclusions until E3, but this is looking to be advantage Sony at the moment. The specs of both systems, while improved, are largely irrelevant when we are talking about consoles. What's important, and where MS has apparently dropped the ball, is in the purpose of the product. Instead of making the next great gaming platform, they've created a media center. Moreover, this used game nonsense is a kick to the balls of their core audience. If they don't come out of the gates with an impressive library of exclusives the Playstation 4 will do the One what the 360 did to the Playstation 3.

Well said. I think this was well played by Sony. They waited it out! This may have angered some, but it may make a better product in the end. Also, Sony actually showed off long gameplays, not snippets like MS did. I agree with you about the xbox being a media center. They took it a bit too far. For example, I wouldnt even be able to use the xbox as a set top box since I have a DVR, and the xbox cant do that (plus it would take up too much space).

I'm quite confused here by your comment and some other dudes previous. How did Sony wait it out? I thought they were first out of the gate(not counting Nintendo). We don't know what the PS4 looks like....and what kinda storage it will have. There is a pretty short list of question marks regarding the PS4. Can you clarify?

Sony was criticized for showing features and games but not the system. Now Microsoft for showing the system, features and glancing over the games. These reveals can't be that long or that in depth can they? At what point does it become a launch? And at what point is it a teaser? And at what point does this all become moot, and the motivation behind wasting money and time on people who just want to be heard bitching fades?

I'm excited! New systems are coming out soon! This is from someone who plays almost exclusively on the PC and that's not changing anytime soon.

 

[TS-56336]

I really hope people aren't under the impression that they will have access to watch any NFL game. Direct TV still has exclusive right to NFL games until the 2015 season. Yeah, I's cool but really it's nothing special.

 

[Guest]

When you said it isn't always on that is true. But what people were complaining about is about it always have to be ONline which is indeed something that will be implemented. The reason this could be bad is exactly how Sim City turned out. It could be great if done perfectly but if you mess it up it absolutely sucks. Always online is not a good way to go in my opinion.

 

[kosac]

Its DVB-T tuner inside? (no? so what is TV?)

 

[NTAPRO]

I'm not too sure how people can get bent out of shape about a console that has "box" in it's title and happens to look like a box >_>

 

[Misagt]

I must admit for what it's bringing together, I'm pretty impressed. They have focused on what MicroSoft does well, intigrating products into their console. Xbox1 isn't for me but I can see many many who would be interested in this console. It's a living room experience, what I'm the guy that brought my living room to my PC

 

[Puiu]

Sony did, but for some reason, the Xbox One impressed me more. Dont get me wrong here my friend, I will judge when I see the PS4, but as of now, I am liking the Xbox more. Nintendo did put effort in. I have played Nintendo consoles since the N64, and I still love them more than any other console. I just feel like Nintendo needs to reveal an updated Wii U to survive. The Wii kind of killed the business in terms of popularity among older kids. Whenever I ask friends of mine if they have a Wii (I never really do anymore), they would be like, "That is a childs console". The unfortunate demise of the name is just too embedded in the industry now. They need to change the name, and appeal to older children to gain market share. Also, no one plays a DS anymore (other than hard core Nintendo fans). Just 3 years back, every one had one.

You say you like it more, but you don't say you liked about it. Please explain more because as things stand everybody outside the US just got the finger from Microsoft

 

[Guest]

Apparently, the used game fee is full MSRP according to one of the execs at Xbox.

 

[Puiu]

Can anyone tell me which will be the most powerful? Since we don't know that much about the processor (at least for the PS4, I have heard this is a customized Jaguar), lets just assume they are the same: I am interested in the RAM.

Will the PS4 perform better because it uses GDDR5 instead of DDR3? Will it run games better, but all the other stuff not as much?
Thanks!

It's been rumored that the new xbox will only have 1.2 GFLOPS compared to the 1.84 of the PS4, but again this is just a rumor. Microsoft didn't reveal how powerful it is which in my opinion kinda confirms this.

 

[Puiu]

I'm quite confused here by your comment and some other dudes previous. How did Sony wait it out? I thought they were first out of the gate(not counting Nintendo). We don't know what the PS4 looks like....and what kinda storage it will have. There is a pretty short list of question marks regarding the PS4. Can you clarify?

Sony was criticized for showing features and games but not the system. Now Microsoft for showing the system, features and glancing over the games. These reveals can't be that long or that in depth can they? At what point does it become a launch? And at what point is it a teaser? And at what point does this all become moot, and the motivation behind wasting money and time on people who just want to be heard bitching fades?

I'm excited! New systems are coming out soon! This is from someone who plays almost exclusively on the PC and that's not changing anytime soon.

Again with how the PS4 looks.... Just look at how the XBOX looks and tell me if that isn't the worst 90's design you have ever seen. It's huge, it's bulky and it looks like an old VCR.
We got to see how the XBOX looks and it can watch TV for you and .... absolutely nothing else. No specs (at least besides the "Oh look it has 8 cores"), no online services detailed, no apps, no games, no nothing.

This reveal was just a big waste of time intended to just hype up the next COD game, because the developers feel that MW3 will be the last one to sell so much and they need to advertize Ghosts at every possible opportunity.

 

[Kevin82485]

All of you talking up the whole "install a game on my friend's XB1, log into my account and play" are overlooking something: the game isn't just tied to your account. Its also tied for your console. You'll have the pay for the game AGAIN to play it on a second console. Microsoft has done something amazing with the XB1: they've actually exceeded how bad I thought it would be.

This is not accurate according to what Major Nelson has said on his blog.

Scenario 1: He said that you could take the game to a friend's house, log into their Xbox with your gamertag, and play the game without having to pay a fee, but if you loan the game to them, the friend will have to pay the activation fee.

Scenario 2: Additionally, what has been reported but not clarified by Major Nelson, is if there are multiple people who have accounts on a single Xbox, they fortunately do not have to each pay an activation fee to play said game on that Xbox. There is a way of granting permission to multiple accounts on a single Xbox. How it can discern between scenario 1 and scenario 2, I have no clue.

Scenario 3: However, what is completely unclear, is what if say 3 or 4 people in a single household have their own Xbox and their own unique gamertag on each Xbox. Can they share 1 game between all consoles on each unique gamertag without having to pay 2 or 3 additional activation fees?

All I know is that this is going to be a major PITA for people who buy this Xbox.

 

[Adhmuz]

This is not accurate according to what Major Nelson has said on his blog.

Scenario 1: He said that you could take the game to a friend's house, log into their Xbox with your gamertag, and play the game without having to pay a fee, but if you loan the game to them, the friend will have to pay the activation fee.

Scenario 2: Additionally, what has been reported but not clarified by Major Nelson, is if there are multiple people who have accounts on a single Xbox, they fortunately do not have to each pay an activation fee to play said game on that Xbox. There is a way of granting permission to multiple accounts on a single Xbox. How it can discern between scenario 1 and scenario 2, I have no clue.

Scenario 3: However, what is completely unclear, is what if say 3 or 4 people in a single household have their own Xbox and their own unique gamertag on each Xbox. Can they share 1 game between all consoles on each unique gamertag without having to pay 2 or 3 additional activation fees?

All I know is that this is going to be a major PITA for people who buy this Xbox.

Console activations perhaps similar to how Sony's current console works, where it gives you the ability to activate on up to 5 consoles and then download you PSN games on them. But that would be too logical for Microsoft I think, they'll likely allow two console activated at any one time and to add another you have to first remove one of the currently activated. But hey Microsoft loves being vague about their product until its released and everyone windows h'eights it.

 

[HiDDeNMisT]

IMO the PS4 seems to be more appetizing then this "XBOX ONE" (Hate the name BTW). I might just get a PS4 instead of this.

Doesn't sound like its going to be much fun at all. I don't know if I am wrong, If I am please let me know.

 

[Kevin82485]

IMO the PS4 seems to be more appetizing then this "XBOX ONE" (Hate the name BTW). I might just get a PS4 instead of this.

Doesn't sound like its going to be much fun at all. I don't know if I am wrong, If I am please let me know.

Unless Sony comes out saying that they have a similar stance on used games, I will be buying a PS4. I have not owned a PlayStation since PS1, and have had an Xbox and Xbox 360, but it might be time to go back to PlayStation. If Sony does have restrictions on used games then, my decision is even more difficult and I might end up giving up console gaming altogether and just go solely with PC gaming.

I know PC has the same type of restrictions with used games, but at least on Stream and other digital distributors they typically have absolutely amazing deals on video games if you don't mind waiting a little while. Like buying every Tomb Raider game for $40 or whatever, or like a few months ago I bought Max Payne 3 and Sleeping Dogs on PC for $10 each. At launch PC games are usually cheaper anyway. Currently consoles don't even come close to this type of pricing.

 

[HiDDeNMisT]

Unless Sony comes out saying that they have a similar stance on used games, I will be buying a PS4. I have not owned a PlayStation since PS1, and have had an Xbox and Xbox 360, but it might be time to go back to PlayStation. If Sony does have restrictions on used games then, my decision is even more difficult and I might end up giving up console gaming altogether and just go solely with PC gaming.

I know PC has the same type of restrictions with used games, but at least on Stream and other digital distributors they typically have absolutely amazing deals on video games if you don't mind waiting a little while. Like buying every Tomb Raider game for $40 or whatever, or like a few months ago I bought Max Payne 3 and Sleeping Dogs on PC for $10 each. At launch PC games are usually cheaper anyway. Currently consoles don't even come close to this type of pricing.

This is so true. I game on both my console and my PC. I usually do RPG's and PC only gaming on the PC and on my PS3 I do everything else. Trust me, I take full advantage of the sales that Steam etc. etc. have. For me right now PC is kind of taking over. Cheap prices, great games. The only thing you need is a gaming computer which can be pricey.