Weekend tech reading: Remembering literary legend Ray Bradbury

By Matthew ¬∑ 22 replies
Jun 10, 2012
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  1. Brought Mars to Earth with a lyrical mastery Ray Bradbury, a master of science fiction whose imaginative and lyrical evocations of the future reflected both the optimism and the anxieties of...

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    3DCGMODELER TS Enthusiast Posts: 307   +18

    thats sad that he passed, he will be remembered....
  3. I thought Fahrenheit 451 was simplistic drivel, frankly. Never bothered reading anything else by Bradbury after that.
  4. I think previous guest is a drivelly simpleton, no-one is likely to read much at all by him.

    RIP Ray...
  5. No need to get upset over a difference of opinion, guest. I just think the whole dystopia genre was done far better previously by the likes of Orwell and Huxley, and Bradbury's effort felt like a dumbed-down imitation (ironic, considering the theme). It also felt rather pretentious - implying reading is somehow inherently more high-brow than other mediums (it isn't), and that it was up to a elitist group of intellectuals (Granger's group) to save society from the ignorant masses. Reading between the lines it came across as more like a bitter personal diatribe, rather than anything though provoking or complex. Again, just my opinion, but I'm entitled to it just as much as you are yours. No need to get defensive or insulting about it.
  6. gwailo247

    gwailo247 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,010   +18

    Well, Guest, perhaps in all your haste to be erudite, you neglected to realize that perhaps someone who thinks Bradbury is a good author, and 451 is a great book that they find intellectually stimulating would find its characterization as simplistic drivel to be insulting. Because no matter how neutral you make it sound, or how you say you had no ill intentions, when you call something simplistic drivel, you're making a whole lot of implications about people who like or even admire the book.
    tl;dr you're a troll
  7. It's your prerogative to feel it's insulting if you want to. It must be hard to go through life if you feel insulted every time someone has a different opinion (Protip: the "I thought" is the part of the sentence that gives you the cue that the subject is about to state their opinion) from you, though.
  8. ET3D

    ET3D TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,376   +168

    Trolls will be trolls. And knolls will be knolls. But a troll on a knoll is not like a knoll on a troll.

    I will not say what I think about Bradbury unless we manage to get a troll free environment, but thanks for reminding me that I wanted to blog about his death.
  9. It's interesting how troll used to have a specific definition and now it just means "anyone on the Internet who says something I don't like". You guys lowered the tone of the comments, not me.
  10. Raswan

    Raswan TS Enthusiast Posts: 279

    Let me guess: the only other dystopian books you've read were 1984 and BNW, right? Wow, you are one learned man. I should have just come to your house and sit in your living room instead of going to a four-year institution to get my MA in lit. Would you still be up for this arrangement? I would be willing to pay extra for air conditioning, to offset all of the extra hot air produced by lengthy lectures on what is "drivel" and what is not, as well as chip in some old My Little Pony and Digimon comics my sister used to read when she was eight. That stuff sounds like it's a little more up your alley, no?

    Best, Raswan.
  11. Doctor John

    Doctor John TS Enthusiast Posts: 204   +15

    My Little Pony and Digimon constitute a much derided and frequently overlooked sub-genre of popular literature, and while occasionally prone to gratuitous and sometimes prolonged tangential excursions into the overworked realms of sub-teen fantasy, nonetheless represent a worthwhile and occasionally penetrating insight into......oh alright I am kidding.
    RIP Ray Bradbury, fine mind, great writer :'(
  12. I like how no-one was actually able to refute any of my points, or give their own reasons for why they thought Fahrenheit 451 was worthwhile, but instead make baseless assumptions and insults while at the same time accusing me of being the immature/insulting one. Hilarious. Welp!
  13. Previous guest, why would any one "refute" your pointless noise when it has zero to do with the thread? Perhaps if you were to be relevant? If you have pretentions to intelligence, try reading the title and OP (at the top) then you won't come across as a half-wit.
  14. "why would any one "refute" your pointless noise when it has zero to do with the thread"

    Well they felt the need to address it in other, less constructive manners, so that line of argument doesn't really apply. The pointless noise here has been caused by all the posters who couldn't seem to fathom that someone else might not share their opinion that Bradbury was all that great a writer, lashing out with childish insults and completely derailing the comments in the process. If I was a troll (which I'm not, but some are accusing otherwise) then I would be laughing my *** off right now out how successful I'd been in ruining the conversation.
  15. Doctor John

    Doctor John TS Enthusiast Posts: 204   +15

    As the other guest spelt out in plain English, the thread is about remembering Ray Bradbury, not an anonymous poster trying to upstage it by provoking a bunfight. Grow up.
  16. ET3D

    ET3D TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,376   +168

    Guest, I referred to you as a troll because it looked like you were trying to provoke an emotional response by using "simplistic drivel" and some other things you said. But upon reading your further messages it looks to me like you're just a jerk, and not a real troll. I might have offered some sympathy for your opinion if I had some sympathy for you, but the way you talk just doesn't make me want to do that.
    Doctor John likes this.
  17. Actually John, I was just expressing my opinion that Bradbury might be overrated, based on how I found his most celebrated work to be not very good. You can blame the hypersensitive knee-jerkers for it turning into a full blown, off-topic pissing match.
  18. And looks like you're still frantically checking in and contributing to it, Guest. :)
  19. I confess I thought he died years ago, (no disrespect!)
  20. "If I was a troll (which I'm not, but some are accusing otherwise) then I would be laughing my *** off right now out how successful I'd been in ruining the conversation." Congratulations, troll, you seem to have stopped the intelligent part of conversation very effectively!
  21. Doctor John

    Doctor John TS Enthusiast Posts: 204   +15

    Actually, tedious guest two days ago, firstly that is still irrelevant, secondly John is my second name not my first, and finally I'm not on first name terms with trolls anyway.
    Wrong again on all counts. Now I'm unwatching this thread so you can rant to yourself.
  22. "secondly John is my second name not my first, and finally I'm not on first name terms with trolls anyway"

    Then presumably you could have just interpreted me referring to you as "John" as addressing you by your surname, and therefore saved us all from your quite pathetically embarrassing hissy fit.
  23. as predicted.

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