Windows 10 wrap-up: free update for most, Spartan revealed, local game streaming, holograms and more

Shawn Knight

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Microsoft just wrapped up its Windows 10 event in Redmond with plenty of new and exciting features on display. Chief among the big announcements is the fact that Windows 10 will be a free update to those currently running...

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EEatGDL

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I really don't see the point in streaming from a XB1 to a PC. Generally, a console is located at a key space at home where there's enough comfort to sit and play [usually from a distance].
 
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Was hoping they would have announced the release date for Windows Phone 10. Been waiting a while and its getting a bit frustrating.
 
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treeski

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I really don't see the point in streaming from a XB1 to a PC. Generally, a console is located at a key space at home where there's enough comfort to sit and play [usually from a distance].
Well, if your significant other wants to watch TV, you're free to go game elsewhere. Or, if you're sitting in bed and want to play an Xbox game on your Surface, go right ahead.
 
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treeski

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Was hoping they would have announced the release date for Windows Phone 10. Been waiting a while and its getting a bit frustrating.
Preview for phones is February, so you can probably try it out then. Otherwise, same release date as for everything else, I imagine.
 

ikesmasher

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I really don't see the point in streaming from a XB1 to a PC. Generally, a console is located at a key space at home where there's enough comfort to sit and play [usually from a distance].
how about to a cheap windows tablet? console gaming from bed or in the bathroom? muahaha.
 

captaincranky

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(Quote Shawn Knight)
"Interestingly enough, Microsoft is pitching Windows 10 as more of a service than an operating system. Myerson even said that one can think of Windows as one of the largest Internet services on the planet."

Well, let's see. First they're going to tempt everyone to relinquish their beloved Windows 7, with a free copy of Windows 10. (*)

Then, they bill Windows 10 basically as, "the most important internet service in history".

Kidz, if that doesn't sound like subscription Windows coming down the pike, nothing does.:eek:


(*) The whole "free Windows 10", ploy, sounds like something ripped from, "The Last Temptation of Christ". But I suppose you would have had to have seen the movie, to access the reference
 

MilwaukeeMike

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Is this Microsoft’s answer to the virtual reality trend?
I had no idea VR was a trend at all.
This holoLens thing looks cool though (reminds me of the IllumiRoom). I hope someone I know gets one so I can try it out. :)
 
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Then, they bill Windows 10 basically as, "the most important internet service in history".
Kidz, if that doesn't sound like subscription Windows coming down the pike, nothing does
Yeah, it totally implies subscription! Specially since internet services are known to have a long history of subscription fees. Look at Google, Yahoo, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, SnapChat, Vine, MySpace, YouTube, Vimeo, DailyMotion, Skype and MSN/Live Messenger, just to name a few. All subscription-based.
Also, if Microsoft were ever to make a subscription version of Windows, they would obviously abandon single-purchase versions as well. Just look at what they did with Office, now that there are 365 subscriptions you can no longer just buy a regular copy of Office 2013.
And I sure hope Microsoft never releases a subscription version of Windows. How dare they offer more options to their customers!
The only thing we can both be sure of, though, is that being cynical beyond justification is very cool.
 

Teko03

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I really don't see the point in streaming from a XB1 to a PC. Generally, a console is located at a key space at home where there's enough comfort to sit and play [usually from a distance].
Your XBOX ONE is typicall located in the living room. This gives it the ability go whereever you please at your home. Bedroom, backyard, bathroom while taking a dump, upstairs, basement...without the hassle of having to disconnect and move your console. Instead you just take your laptop or tablet + controller to wherever you would like to play. If you have the Intel HDMI PC stick, you could stream it to any other TV in the house even easier!!
 

Teko03

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Also, if Microsoft were ever to make a subscription version of Windows, they would obviously abandon single-purchase versions as well. Just look at what they did with Office, now that there are 365 subscriptions you can no longer just buy a regular copy of Office 2013.
While I agree that Windows may eventually (and unfortunately) turn into a subscription based service, I have to point out that you are incorrect about Office 2013. There are still single PC licenses available. $139 for Home & Student, $219 for Home & Business, $399 for Professional.Office 365 caters to small businesess or working professional who require access to full futured Office while on the move. Mobile, Tablet & Desktop Office + Cloud Storage. Heck, most users can get my using the FREE verson of Office Online @ www.office.com
 

captaincranky

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...[ ]....And I sure hope Microsoft never releases a subscription version of Windows. How dare they offer more options to their customers!
The only thing we can both be sure of, though, is that being cynical beyond justification is very cool.
If you want internet to be mandatory to use your, "personal computer", you're welcome to it. After all, M$ is "entitled" to a chunk of your paycheck, let's make it official.
 
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EEatGDL

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Well, if your significant other wants to watch TV, you're free to go game elsewhere. Or, if you're sitting in bed and want to play an Xbox game on your Surface, go right ahead.
I highly doubt there's only that TV at home, and I doubt that is a common "first-world problem". If someone's playing in a console, usually the TV isn't available until he/she quits. And how many XB1 owners have a Windows tablet, less alone a Surface?

how about to a cheap windows tablet? console gaming from bed or in the bathroom? muahaha.
Have you ever tried streaming through wi-fi within LAN? I highly doubt a cheap Windows tablet will have a good wireless adapter.

I have a DIR-868L router and tried the Steam streaming with a HTPC 5 meters away with a wall in between -using 2.5 GHz n-mode- and the lag sucked; tried also Gamestream with an NVIDIA Shield using 5 GHz ac-mode and it worked well as long as there was a "line of sight" between the router and the handheld.
 

DJMIKE25

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You can't give an opinion being uninformed. You can definitely still buy single licenses for office 2013. I to purchase them for clients all the time.
 
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Skidmarksdeluxe

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It doesn't sound like much to get all that excited about apart from getting a free upgrade but I'll reserve my final judgement until I've taken it for a thorough spin. Being able to stream games to other devices certainly doesn't set my pulse racing, that's about the last thing I'm interested in.
 
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I'm hoping for clarification that Windows itself is NOT going to be a subscription.

If it is, then they may as well install a device on my microwave which disables it unless I swipe a credit card or enable direct deposit for a monthly fee. Then my transition to life-debt slavery will be complete.
 

treeski

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I highly doubt there's only that TV at home, and I doubt that is a common "first-world problem". If someone's playing in a console, usually the TV isn't available until he/she quits. And how many XB1 owners have a Windows tablet, less alone a Surface?
Well, some of us aren't as wealthy as others or as far ahead in life as others. Others are more minimalist and don't want to have TVs in every single room. We only have room for one TV in our apartment. Also, just because we're giving our attention to different devices doesn't mean we want to be in a different room.

I surely hope MS doesn't develop features for only the current technology landscape... obviously they are hoping for a far greater tablet adoption. Regardless, you can stream to laptops, too... which a ton of people have.
 

Whltng

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Mary Jo Foley tweets "Nadella says calling #Windows10 a service does not imply change in biz model." #Phew.
 

lripplinger

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It has always been a disaster "upgrading" from one window's OS to another. How much of a mess will be created by "upgrading" from Windows 7 to 10. If anyone does, please be sure you have saved all of your data prior to attempting. I am not holding my breath on this one.
 

drjekelmrhyde

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...[ ]....And I sure hope Microsoft never releases a subscription version of Windows. How dare they offer more options to their customers!
The only thing we can both be sure of, though, is that being cynical beyond justification is very cool.
If you want internet to be mandatory to use your, "personal computer", you're welcome to it. After all, M$ is "entitled" to a chunk of your paycheck, let's make it official.
WTF are you talking about?