bexwhitt
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It's easy to make a stable architecture when you have one branch of hardware.
Windows PCs crash three times as often as Macs, report says
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MiqWalsh
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Err...huh??
Whilst I use a fairly standard HP Pavilion desktop - though "maxed-out" in every respect - running Linux, my Core i7-8700 runs more on a par with the M-series Apple chips. Average temps are around 36-42C depending on activity.
Only video rendering pushes it to anywhere near that Windows 'average'......more usually, around 10C lower. Can't really comment on Windows behaviour, as I haven't even thought about it since Win XP days, let alone used it.
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Thatsdisgusting
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Same thing, half a year ago, the moment microslop released those updates that knocked out or even fried SiliconMotion SSDs, but my samsung had huge issues with bootloader corruption, so every wake from sleep ended up with bsod and OS SSD vanishing from BIOS boot.
So I decided to reinstall Win fresh, a new shiny 25H2, left for coffee during the install, and apparently it run quicker than me, gone sleep or hybernate at welcome screen while I was afk, and when I woke thing up, it “welcomed” me for a second and then - BSOD!
I still experience occasional crashes after sleep with bootloader corruption, dunno why reset doesn't help to return SSD to bootloader but power cycle does. Magician and other tools say SSD is in tiptop shape, and thats been for long. so I guess that’s microslop is failing and not my NAND…
PXAbstraction
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Yes, and it does it exceptionally well considering the data.
Beerfloat
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Nah, it's even more obvious than that. Omnissa is the old VMWare centrally managed client desktop business spunoff.
The point of the report isn't to sell Macs. It's to tell you that you need to put your users on Omnissa on ALL of your hardware.
Beerfloat
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Windows is also on ARM. And there's an end date to Apple's dual architecture support, unlike Windows.
LordVile95
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It’s kinda on ARM with one chip manufacturer and a handful of devices but not really unlike macOS which has fully transitioned.
Apple generally support macs way past when they’re actually useable so it’s not really much of an issue. The oldest macs that are supported currently are 2012 models which are 14 years old at this point.
Technically, The latest supported Macs by Apple on macOS Ventura are 2017s, but even then that is almost 10 years old, unless you use OpenCore. Like the Windows XP Legacy Update, but hell I haven't used it in a while it may be gone as well.
That’s basically their business model.
Unfortunately for some, Microsoft became the dominant OS for PCs, and they’ve shown in the past that they can get it right. Windows XP was solid, Windows 7 was widely loved, and even Windows 11 could be great, they’ve done it before.
I don’t really understand why they seem to struggle so much with Windows 11. That said, speaking anecdotally, I’ve personally never had any real issues with Windows 11 Pro. But I do some research and turn off what I don't want and know how to install my hardware drivers instead of letting Windows do it.
pcnthuziast
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daffy duck
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WHile I don't use a Mac anywhere as much as my PC/laptop, I've never even seen a Mac crash, I don't even know what happens. Do they get apple green screens?
Still since Windows 10 my crashes have been very rare.
Still since Windows 10 my crashes have been very rare.
JaredTheDragon
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Imagine still caring what Mac people think for even one second. They buy iPhones. Of course they're going to use computers designed for children.
LordVile95
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Nope. Catalina is still getting updates
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LordVile95
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Catalina literally got an update in FebruarySecurity Verification
Security verification page to protect against malicious bots.discussions.apple.com
Yeah, Catalina did get something in February, but calling it a real update is misleading.
What Apple pushed in February 2026 was a very specific, one off certificate patch, not a return to full support. It was mainly to keep core services like iMessage, FaceTime, and device activation working past 2027 .
It didn’t include actual vulnerability fixes (no CVEs were even listed), which tells you everything, this wasn’t Apple resuming support, just maintaining basic functionality on legacy systems.
It is still listed as "unsupported". That doesn't mean they will, or will not release any further patches. And definitely not any security patches.
From Macworld
Apple has just released security updates for macOS Catalina and Big Sur. Yes, you saw that right, macOS 10.15 Catalina and 11 Big Sur.
These are formally macOS Big Sur 11.7.11 and Catalina Security Update 2026-001. Although billed as security updates, these extend the security certificates required by iMessage, FaceTime and Mac activation so they will continue working after January 2027. If you’re still running macOS 10.15 or 11, they’re essential. However, there are no published security fixes for either.
LordVile95
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Catalina literally got an update inSecurity Verification
Security verification page to protect against malicious bots.
Support is still support and it’s more than windows is doing for systems that are much younger
You have a good point.
LordVile95
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To be fair 11 is much better than 10 in my experience. I had to fresh install 10 twice because it broke itself
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