Xbox One developers should start with Windows 8, says Microsoft

9Nails

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I like generally like Microsoft, but Windows 8 has put itself with Windows ME and Vista in OS user dissatisfaction.
For WinME I can completely agree. That was said to be the version of Windows 98 with all the bells and whistles turned up to 11. But it crashed and caused so many troubles that it deserved it's name in infamy. Vista wasn't as bad as people recall. It had steeper upgrade requirements, but get a PC that could afford some extra clock cycles to run it, and it wasn't that bad. Bit bloated, but that's the price you pay for more features.

I think Windows 8 is falling in-line with Windows Vista. Deep down it's generally a good operation system, but only when seen under ideal conditions. In this case, that means installing a 3rd party "Start is Back" type of add-on that cleans up the perceived Metro problems.
 

captaincranky

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....[ ]..... Vista wasn't as bad as people recall. It had steeper upgrade requirements, but get a PC that could afford some extra clock cycles to run it, and it wasn't that bad. Bit bloated, but that's the price you pay for more features.
I have Vista Basic on a laptop. The best you can say for it is, "meh, it's an operating system".

I'm not exactly what you mean by trading features for bloat. Perhaps so, but the trade was a bit lopsided toward bloat and away from features.

Vista was the biggest gift from M$ the hardware manufacturers could have hoped for, not so much for the end users.

I bought 2 copies of XP during Vista's "reign", no regrets about it either.
 

Railman

TS Booster
The big issue with Vista was the default settings for notifications. Far too many pop up notifications which required user intervention. Windows 7 is a development of Vista so much of the core is the same. Changing the default settings on Vista did make it usable.
 

Chazz

TS Evangelist
Time honored wisdom goes like this, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Ballmer wisdom goes like this, "if it ain't broke, break it, then pass around the hat for another hundred bucks to reward yourself for your effort. There's such a thing as obsolescence, there's a thing as planned obsolescence, and then there's such a thing a forced obsolescence and extortion. Windows 8 fits into that category.

Today's social landscape could be described thus, people with either a cell phone to their ear, or a tablet one one hand, and their thumb up their a** with the other. Their only tangible skills could be described as tweeting, plastering their business all over Facebook, and running up a humongous phone.bill. Of course they do take a moment off here or there to watch, "OMG Hollywwod Insider". At some point, you have to tackle the real news. OMG, did Hayden panatierre get breast implants, I'll just die if I don't know the answer to that. Is Kim Kardashian's a** a full 16:9 now, or will we have to go to CinemaScope to to veiw it in it's full cellulited glory? My world will stop if I don't know, here and now, better get FIOS. Hey, maybe the M$ app store will have a Metro icon of her butt. Wow, I can touch and zoom that thing, because that's what really matters, and that's where Windows 8 comes in.

When I was young, real men marched off to the steel mill at 8:00 AM, instead of out for a mani-pedi.

I'm way too old for that s***, and way too smart to offer anything other than extreme predjudice, toward the leach running M$, and if you keep pushing my buttons, I'll say a few more ill things about the dead.Mr. Jobs.

This is in large part a society that no longer retains a work ethic, and reproduces itself for the sake of creating more wards of the state.

And don't get me started about the cell phone being nothing more than a fancy electronic leash, tracking device,and the biggest boon to drug dealers ever created, regardless of whichOS du jour is powering it.

If you can't handle the pressure of what I believe are legitimate gripes about having a new OS rammed down your throat every couple of years whenever the mood strikes M$, then maybe you are too old for the web, and you should curl up with an Ereader, and die. Heaven forbid you should be caught dead reading anything printed on paper. What would the neighbors say?:mad:

I assumed that huge rant wasn't aimed at me as I only have a half assed clue as to what you were referring to. There is a level of old between the mills and what you're referring to. I think you're a few levels removed from old and makes me wonder how do you even know the internet exists.

As a older guy, you should be able to see that half of these rants aren't legitimate. "Microsoft suggests creators develop games for the PC with a bigger priority"

OMG IM BEING FORCED TO LIVE UNDER THEIR RULE!!
 

captaincranky

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I assumed that huge rant wasn't aimed at me as I only have a half assed clue as to what you were referring to. There is a level of old between the mills and what you're referring to. I think you're a few levels removed from old and makes me wonder how do you even know the internet exists.
Well slick, it would seem I'm old but still sharp as a tack. In my day I was even able to program a VCR.

As a older guy, you should be able to see that half of these rants aren't legitimate. "Microsoft suggests creators develop games for the PC with a bigger priority"


OMG IM BEING FORCED TO LIVE UNDER THEIR RULE!!
The first time I saw a cell phone was a "friend" of mine was being harangued for his location and ETA by his wife. So I said, note to self, never ever buy a cell phone.

As far as my >>first rant<< I simply stated that it made no sense for M$ to say anything but, "develop for Windows 8". If anybody was expecting anything different, it's fair to say they're a bit delusional.

So, save for perhaps some where, some nuance in the text said something more than that, the article was a statement of the patently self evident.

To a certain degree, we are being forced to live under M$' rule. The dictatorial way in which this OS was forced on desktop, is hubris on a grand scale.

I guess I am really old, because I don't believe the human race can go forward arguing about which cell phone has the better OS, which is the fastest video card, or which tablet warrants the most freneticdancers on a desktop. Thank God some people still have the work ethic to produce food, because the game playing, technology worshiping, computer loving, obsessed drones at many of sites such as this would starve to death if they didn't