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Tell that to India.
Yeah... Tell that to IndiaTell that to India.
Ugh, I hope not.I wonder if Amazon does that.
It's hilarious when elites pretend a ban on crypto means the end of crypto. Banning weed sure lead to the end of weed, didn't it?Yeah... Tell that to India
A whopping 84 percent of users said no, while only 16 % think that the government's decision is justified.www.india.com
Maybe we should be thanking Zotac instead of shunning them? At least they had the balls to come forth about crypto mining on their end....makes you wonder how many other AIB companies are doing this without actually saying anything....running some mining builds just because they can.
While I do agree it was a tactless thing to post since new GPUs are almost impossible to come across, I urge people to not be just upset with Zotac. All AIB companies, Nvidia (possibly even AMD, but I don't recall reading any specific news stories about them selling directly to miners/scalpers) and retail companies have been selling off massive amounts of GPUs to higher bidders to turn a fast, high profit. These mining outfits and scalpers don't just come across all their GPUs from botting sites and if you think they do then you should take a better look around and realize botting sites to snatch up GPUs is only a small part of the whole problem.
There is no way miners or scalpers could have gotten their hands on dozens and dozens of GPUs without the aid of AIB/manufacturers/retailers selling to them on the backend before the cards even officially went on sale.
As a consumer, we have a handful of options at our fingertips for how we've all been treated by the whole gambit:
1) boycott (which won't happen because people aren't willing to do so and also it won't matter since these companies will have miners to sell to until crypto mining on GPUs is no longer viable) AIBs/manufacturers for this whole fiasco they helped create
2) bend over backwards and take it up the *** with the artificially inflated prices from retailers when they do get some kind of stock in
3) keep waiting and see if inventory ever balances out and prices recede (this is not very likely, at least not anytime soon) or get extremely lucky to buy a card near MSRP
4) turn to the scalpers to acquire hardware
5) walk away from the PC building/gaming hobby and find other things to spend your money on
Personally, I'm waiting on option 3.
Whenever we try socialism, I.e. trying to artificially control the market, it has bad consequences. For some reason, people are still trying and even promoting those types of actions.
Even if there are difference, financially, they both have the same effect.Socialism?? You really mean Communism. And no, they're not the same and not interchangeable. Only rubes think they are
This in no way contradicts what I said.And furthermore, that "free" market you speak of...I guess you never heard of capitalist governments very frequently interfering in the stock market (among other things: Halt trading completely) when it becomes unstable and threatens the top 1% with big losses, have you?? Or is that kind of market manipulation OK in your book?
Have you read about GameStop at all lately??
Even if there are difference, financially, they both have the same effect.
The difference between you and him is that you talk sense.Yeah, those Scandinavian countries, Germany, France, UK etc, are in the poor house because they have a socialist system! Right?
Do you have health insurance, car insurance, police and fire depts, garbage collection, public schools etc, in your village?? Guess who is paying for them?? Don't like socialism? Then stop using them just to prove your useless point!!
Again, you don't have the faintest clue what you're talking about. Just wasting bandwidth and people's time with your non-knowledge.
The fact that you actually think such a thing as a regulated free market exists says everything. It's either regulated, or it's free. It cannot be both.The things that you call "socialism" are called regulated free markets everywhere else.
The difference between you and him is that you talk sense.
You should write to these retailers and complain if you feel that way. It’s up to them how many they sell to each user. They will announce a 1 per customer policy whilst at the same time negotiating a backhand deal with miners.
Of course I don’t think they give a dam. They just want to be seen to be giving a dam to please people like you.
The thing is, after all this if retailers started stocking cards at MSRP are you going to boycott them? I don’t think so. Demand is higher than supply and that means if you’re after a card you are at a disadvantage. It’s economics 101..