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Judge lets Sony see identities of visitors to GeoHot's PS3 hacking site

By Emil Protalinski

On March 6, 2011, 9:59 PM

Magistrate Judge Joseph C. Spero has awarded Sony a subpoena that allows the company to obtain the IP addresses of everyone who visited geohot.com, the personal website of PlayStation 3 jailbreaker George Hotz, also known as GeoHot, for the past 26 months (since January 2009). Furthermore, Sony's request for subpoenas on the account names of anyone who has accessed a PS3 jailbreak video on the 21-year-old's YouTube account, his tweets relating to the hacking on Twitter, information on people who posted comments to his blog on Blogspot, and information about his account on the PSX-Scene website, have all been granted, according to Wired.

As a result, Sony can now ask GeoHot's Web provider, Bluehost, for the IP addresses of visitors to his website who accessed or downloaded files from it. Court documents show that Sony rejected arguments submitted by the Electronic Frontier Foundation that the requests were "overly broad" and violated GeoHot's rights to Free Speech. GeoHot has reportedly agreed not to oppose the subpoenas in exchange for Sony narrowing the scope of some of them.

Last month, Sony demanded that Google hand over the identities of those who have viewed or commented about the jailbreak video posted on YouTube. GeoHot posted the video on January 7, later made it private, and then pulled it on a judge's orders.

Sony's legal attacks against the hackers that released the PS3 root key and custom firmware began two months ago. The group known as fail0verflow is accused of posting a rudimentary hack in December 2010 after finding security codes for the PS3. It was refined by GeoHot weeks later when he independently found and published the PS3 root key. The resulting hacks allow homebrew apps and pirated software to run on unmodified consoles. Sony is still threatening to sue anybody posting or distributing PS3 jailbreak code, despite the fact that the company accidentally tweeted the PlayStation 3 security key.

Sony's official stance is if you crack your PS3, you'll get banned. GeoHot meanwhile says "beating them in court is just a start."


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  1. This is a great example of why server logs should be cleared out every week via automatic process. It is also the reason why more and more companies are moving their data centers out of the U.S. -- way too much USSR type of behavior from the corporate masters...

  2. I dont care for hacking but isn't sony setting themselves up to get hacked?

  3. Sony is setting themselves up to get spanked. Unless they have enough money to prevent it, which seems like they do.

  4. Haha. Looks like Geo is doing great in this court case. Welcome to capitalism. Enjoy it while it lasts.

  5. Guest said:

    It's no more hacking than finding a key in a door is picking a lock. Buy or rent the games cheapskates.

    ...

    That analogy is backwards. Why would you rob your own house?

  6. That analogy is backwards. Why would you rob your own house?

    what? where does it say anything about it being his house?

  7. I totally agree! This is going to do nothing more for Sony than prove how much of a bully they really can be when they don't get their way. Too bad they need to rely on the consumer to purchase their products. By pursuing everyone and anyone who viewed the video, downloaded the key, hacked their console, is only going to serve them with a "failure to appear in the marketplace" later on down the road! So I say to you Sony, is it worth all this? You do realize that your PS3 is an "idea" and what happens with everyone's idea? It becomes a "more improved and elaborated" idea usually administered by someone else further down the road. How the hell do you think we have the technology we have today Sony? If no one took or "stole" someone else's ideas and made them better, we'd still be living back in the ****ing stone ages with our fingers up each others asses and no video games to play! You have officially (whether you give a **** or not) lost another customer for good! Way to go!

  8. Oh ya, and another thing Sony! Maybe George should give the CEO of Nintendo a call to stand next to him in court and discuss how you're "Playstation Move Controller" isn't thievery from Nintendo's Wii controller! Such ****ing hypocrites!

  9. All you people against George Hotz need a ****ing reality check! Let's not forget that Sony specifically stated that their PS3 "console" was in fact a "PC" in order to introduce it into European countries! Isn't that deception? Also, wouldn't that lead to a case dismissal since the charges being filed have nothing to do with console gaming and in fact have everything to do with a PC? More information such as this needs to be parent to the consumers regardless of how minuscule the information is, seeing as most consumers don't understand the corporate worlds and how it works. Ween them in lightly and let them decide for themselves what sort of justice should be served! Also, like I said before, what about how Sony ripped off Nintendo's Wiimote by introducing their own Playstation Move controller expecting us all to believe it was their own idea.....WTF!!!! Who's the criminal in the matter now ****tards! Nintendo should have filed a lawsuit against Sony for patent infringement on that one!

  10. yRaz said:

    That analogy is backwards. Why would you rob your own house?

    what? where does it say anything about it being his house?

    That makes no sense.

  11. Dont get me wrong, but Geo needs to understand some common sence so my call is to let SONY win this one, even tho theiy are a bunch of jerks.

  12. There is a difference between hacking your own machine and cracking somebody elses machine

  13. Wohoo I get to be part of a lawsuit and I don't even own a PS3.

  14. lol this would probably make more people visit the site xD

  15. I'm a bit confused. Some people say that since we paid for the PS3 already, we should be able to do whatever we see fit. However, looking through the PS3 License Agreement at:

    http://www.scei.co.jp/ps3-eula/ps3_eula_en.html

    I don't see any mention about that. Besides, what we buy does not mean we own it because it a lot of cases, we only bought the right to use it which is the case here with the PS3. It even clearly states:

    "You do not have any ownership rights or interests in the System Software. All intellectual property rights therein belong to SCE and its licensors, and all use or access to such System Software shall be subject to the terms of this Agreement and all applicable copyright and intellectual property laws. Except as expressly granted in this Agreement, SCE and its licensors reserve all rights, interests and remedies."

    Sure we can shoot and burn the PS3 unit but anything related to hacking or disassembling is illegal according to the terms which is elaborated further in RESTRICTIONS of the agreement.

    Anyways, I still think this is a stupid case since Sony is using a lot of money on this right now although at the same time I can still see that the money is not what Sony is going for. Well this is going to hurt the homebrew community which is going to suck.

  16. " Most of you feel it's OK for GeoHot to hack into a PS3? Let the people who hack corporations and government agencies go free too."

    There is a HUGE difference between me buying a product which I now OWN and taking it home and doing ANYthing I want to do with and to MY property that I bought and OWN... and me hacking into someone ELSES' personal property and causing that OTHER person's property to be damaged or destroyed or stolen.

    F^#K Apple, M'Soft, Sony and all the other greedy @ssbags who are out to OWN YOU just because you bought and own one of their gadgets or toys.

  17. tekkaraiden said:

    Wohoo I get to be part of a lawsuit and I don't even own a PS3.

    lolz, please update if you really do.

  18. darkshadoe said:

    3. People steal gasoline all the time but that has no bearing on oil prices. Get over it

    Get some knowledge before you post ignorant statements like this. Try looking up a country called Nigeria to get some more info on how oil and gas thefts affect prices.

    Besides that, Sony's not threatening to sue people who hack their consoles. They're banning them from PSN. You have no right to PSN if you violate the EULA, as it's a free service Sony provides at their discretion.

    Sony's officially given up on completely stopping this, and the threats to sue websites who post the hack are in an attempt to try to slow the flood of people hacking their PS3s until Sony has a stable workaround to keep their services (PSN and such) and IPs (software and games) safe. It's just about reducing the number of outlets to provide damage control, because at this point that's all there is left to do.

  19. I Second that

  20. There is a difference between hacking your own machine and cracking somebody elses machine

    Both of which are illegal, and the reason why GeoHot is getting what he deserves.

  21. Thank you Sony, YOU pwned yourself!

    I won't be buying another $ony product ever again.

  22. There needs to be a way for these companies to be able to crack down on piracy while still allowing for homebrew development.

  23. actually the whole nigeria thing has nothing to do with gas and oil thefts and higher prices. That country is such embattled in war and warlords and killing of innocent people that it is the criminals such as the government and the warlords who are causing the prices to skyrocket to feed their pockets and continue their dictatorships. So before we go accusing someone of getting the facts wrong, you should check your sources.

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