A Blast from the Past: GeForce GTX 980 Ti vs. GTX 1660 Ti vs. RTX 2060

[jjkusaf]

The lowest level card anyone should be getting is the 2060 or 2070.

I wouldn't be dropping serious coin on a Titan X or Titan XP again...

It's about the FUTURE!

Simply pointing out that you shouldn't be getting a 2060 and assume you'll be benefiting from RTX ... because you won't. Even the 2070 and (depending on resolution) the 2080(ti)) struggle to implement ray tracing at appropriate fps (on the limited titles available). With respect to the "lowest level" card ... that would be based on budget as a 1660ti performs on par with a 980ti/1070ti and a bit slower than a 2060. However, that is a very good option for folks on a budget. Anyway, get a 2060 because it falls within your budget, because it is a strong card and at a fairly good price ... not because of RTX.

RTX in general ... I would say give it another generation or two ... and a few more years for developers. That performance hit right now ....

 

[QuantumPhysics]

Simply pointing out that you shouldn't be getting a 2060 and assume you'll be benefiting from RTX ... because you won't. Even the 2070 and (depending on resolution) the 2080(ti)) struggle to implement ray tracing at appropriate fps (on the limited titles available). With respect to the "lowest level" card ... that would be based on budget as a 1660ti performs on par with a 980ti/1070ti and a bit slower than a 2060. However, that is a very good option for folks on a budget. Anyway, get a 2060 because it falls within your budget, because it is a strong card and at a fairly good price ... not because of RTX.

RTX in general ... I would say give it another generation or two ... and a few more years for developers. That performance hit right now ....

Assuming you leave RTX off, the performance of the 2060, 2070 and 2080 is better than just about everything from the last generation except the 1080Ti.

 

[jjkusaf]

Assuming you leave RTX off, the performance of the 2060, 2070 and 2080 is better than just about everything from the last generation except the 1080Ti.

Well yea...that is a given.

 

[Nayeem335]

As I live in the UK I can only go on that.
A similar AiB 2060 to the Sapphire Pulse is £50 more.
RTX is not worth it this generation in a mid range card and DLSS performs worse than game scaling, plenty of info around about that.

Vega56 is a perfect card to tide me over until Arcturus or RTX 3070/4060.

Rtx and dlss is getting more and more better with time. It's an early stage of these technologies so it will need a lot more patches and updates. And it is getting better and better, there's a lot info around about that too.
Also where I live, Vega 56 isn't available and it will cost nearly 500$ if I try to import it while zotac rtx 2060 twinblade is available for 349$.

 

[andrewyoung]

And I'm still using a GTX 780... lol. No problems with VR gaming which is all I do now. I do have a 1080p 40" TV as my main display but I just don't game on it anymore. At this point I really have no reason to upgrade either as all my games run smooth. And I'm still running a i7 4770K. I'm running a dinosaur rig compared to many of you I'm sure.

ha ha same here I got a 4790K and my old GTX 980 and it runs everything I want.....shadow of the tomb raider.....metro Exodus.....

 

[ddferrari]

The 980ti was the last time Nvidia sold a flagship at anything resembling a fair price. It was a good card, and as the stats show, it's held its own for a long time.

Nowadays the price of ti flagships is far too rich for me.

Not quite. The 1080 Ti on average is a whopping 75% faster than the 980 Ti, for just $50 more ($699 vs $649). The price was more than fair, and the performance gains were HUGE.

Now, the RTX 2080 Ti is only 25-30% faster than the 1080 Ti at nearly double the price. So, the 1080 Ti is the value champion, for sure.

 

[Squid Surprise]

Not quite. The 1080 Ti on average is a whopping 75% faster than the 980 Ti, for just $50 more ($699 vs $649). The price was more than fair, and the performance gains were HUGE.

Now, the RTX 2080 Ti is only 25-30% faster than the 1080 Ti at nearly double the price. So, the 1080 Ti is the value champion, for sure.

Not to mention that the Titan RTX is even pricier and only offers a bit more performance... 1080Ti owners should be pretty happy...

 

[RealNeil]

Probably not... but 12 is still more than the 11 in the 2080ti

SLI ram is not stacked.

 

[texasrattler]

A friend uses a 980 ti but is thinking of upgrading soon. His main reason isn't the gaming side but the streaming. He says it lags at times when streaming and that's at 720. Obviously a new RTX would help but would a 1070 help on the streaming side since it has 8GB?
I don't stream so I could offer much advice for that.

 

[JaredTheDragon]

The 980Ti can't Trace Rays.

Case closed.

This is why you aren't a lawyer. The 980Ti can trace rays just fine, it holds up pretty well against the 1080Ti in many situations actually. Please research a topic before positing an incorrect assumption in the future.

https://vimeo.com/258370945

http://boostclock.com/show/000204/gpu-rendering-nv-gtx980ti-gtx1080ti-titanv.html

 

[ZackL04]

Ive had many 980ti’s that would hit 1450-1500, would have been nice to see those kind of numbers in here as overclocking really moves the needle on this card.

I eventually made the smarter sidegrade though. Sold my last 980ti, paid like a $20 premium and got a 1070. 2GB more vram and adaptive sync support were well worth it!

 

[neeyik]

When I bought my Titan X there were so many people who told me I was wasting money and that I should have bought two 980Ti instead.

I had two 980 Ti cards in SLI and replaced them with a Titan X (Pascal) as soon as it was released (had the 1080 Ti been available then, I would have gone with that, though). The Titan was better in every way, compared to the 980 SLI setup - not just in terms of being SLI-glitch free, but in outright performance too. Yet, on paper, the 980s had it; not by much, but enough to cover the fact that one rarely gets 100% performance increase, or anything like it, by going SLI.

Yes, the Titan X at the time was hugely expensive (£1200) but given how prices then went, and how much a 2080 Ti is now, I don't regret a single penny. It's been the best graphics card I've ever purchased... with the exception of the two 12MB Voodoo 2 boards that were my first GPU purchase, for the princely sum of £600 in total.

 

[QuantumPhysics]

I had two 980 Ti cards in SLI and replaced them with a Titan X (Pascal) as soon as it was released (had the 1080 Ti been available then, I would have gone with that, though). The Titan was better in every way, compared to the 980 SLI setup - not just in terms of being SLI-glitch free, but in outright performance too. Yet, on paper, the 980s had it; not by much, but enough to cover the fact that one rarely gets 100% performance increase, or anything like it, by going SLI.

Yes, the Titan X at the time was hugely expensive (£1200) but given how prices then went, and how much a 2080 Ti is now, I don't regret a single penny. It's been the best graphics card I've ever purchased... with the exception of the two 12MB Voodoo 2 boards that were my first GPU purchase, for the princely sum of £600 in total.

All that extra memory seems like a waste until games start to demand it.

The Titan X and Xp are still beasts compared to everything else when Ray tracing isn’t a topic.

 

[cliffordcooley]

All that extra memory seems like a waste until games start to demand it.

But yet in another thread there is someone that doesn't understand this concept of future-proofing. People like myself can't afford it, but I do understand.

 

[ManDaddio]

When I bought my Titan X there were so many people who told me I was wasting money and that I should have bought two 980Ti instead.

When I bought my Titan XP, there were so many people saying "o that's overkill" and I should have bought a 1080Ti instead. "No one needs all that memory".

NOW... despite the fact the RTX 2080Ti is $1300 - pretty much on parity with the cost of the Titan X and the Titan XP ...no one bothers saying the 2080Ti is overkill because for the most part, it's the only card that can get 60FPS or better in 4K on new games while ray tracing is on and maintains solid 2K scores while ray tracing is on.

The RTX Titan is priced so ridiculously high that it's out of the budgets for most.

Amazing how they get us to spend so much money for this stuff.

RIGHT NOW I am building a second computer and I'm on the shelf as to whether I should go with a 2060, 2070, 2080 or 2080Ti.

I can get the 2070 for $500. I can get the 2080 for $700 or 2080Ti for $1000.

I've seen NOTHING that justifies the price of the 2080Ti because most gamers who have gaming monitors have widescreen 2K monitors - and most are not running monitors in 4K. Most gamers are running their games in high settings but in 1440p (or less).

If I had it to do all over again, I'd probably have not bought my 2080Ti and just gotten a 2080.

These games aren't very demanding.

I just spent the extra for "future proofing".

When I bought my Titan X there were so many people who told me I was wasting money and that I should have bought two 980Ti instead.

When I bought my Titan XP, there were so many people saying "o that's overkill" and I should have bought a 1080Ti instead. "No one needs all that memory".

NOW... despite the fact the RTX 2080Ti is $1300 - pretty much on parity with the cost of the Titan X and the Titan XP ...no one bothers saying the 2080Ti is overkill because for the most part, it's the only card that can get 60FPS or better in 4K on new games while ray tracing is on and maintains solid 2K scores while ray tracing is on.

The RTX Titan is priced so ridiculously high that it's out of the budgets for most.

Amazing how they get us to spend so much money for this stuff.

RIGHT NOW I am building a second computer and I'm on the shelf as to whether I should go with a 2060, 2070, 2080 or 2080Ti.

I can get the 2070 for $500. I can get the 2080 for $700 or 2080Ti for $1000.

I've seen NOTHING that justifies the price of the 2080Ti because most gamers who have gaming monitors have widescreen 2K monitors - and most are not running monitors in 4K. Most gamers are running their games in high settings but in 1440p (or less).

If I had it to do all over again, I'd probably have not bought my 2080Ti and just gotten a 2080.

These games aren't very demanding.

I just spent the extra for "future proofing".

I am 100% happy with my RTX 2080Ti. The price is totally justifiable. Super high fps at 2k 144hz and way above 60fps at 4k which is what I prefer over my 144hz. AMD has nothing. So....

 

[ManDaddio]

EVGA has a slew of 980tis in b-stock. 1 year warranty

 

[ManDaddio]

The 980Ti can't Trace Rays.

Case closed.

This is why you aren't a lawyer. The 980Ti can trace rays just fine, it holds up pretty well against the 1080Ti in many situations actually. Please research a topic before positing an incorrect assumption in the future.

https://vimeo.com/258370945

http://boostclock.com/show/000204/gpu-rendering-nv-gtx980ti-gtx1080ti-titanv.html

I don't think it can Ray Trace well. My GTX 1080 strix was doing it but only 35-60fps. Much better card my friend.

 

[Sandoogs]

The 980Ti can't Trace Rays.

Case closed.

This is why you aren't a lawyer. The 980Ti can trace rays just fine, it holds up pretty well against the 1080Ti in many situations actually. Please research a topic before positing an incorrect assumption in the future.

https://vimeo.com/258370945

http://boostclock.com/show/000204/gpu-rendering-nv-gtx980ti-gtx1080ti-titanv.html

I don't think it can Ray Trace well. My GTX 1080 strix was doing it but only 35-60fps. Much better card my friend.

Not much better only 5fps difference in most games. The only good thing about 1080gtx card is it’s upgraded ram from 6 to 8gb. P.S 980 Ti has practically 3000 cuda cores, and you can use cuda cores in rendering for example or for PhysX.

 

[AS692313]

And I'm still using a GTX 780... lol. No problems with VR gaming which is all I do now. I do have a 1080p 40" TV as my main display but I just don't game on it anymore. At this point I really have no reason to upgrade either as all my games run smooth. And I'm still running a i7 4770K. I'm running a dinosaur rig compared to many of you I'm sure.

And I'm still using a GTX 780... lol. No problems with VR gaming which is all I do now. I do have a 1080p 40" TV as my main display but I just don't game on it anymore. At this point I really have no reason to upgrade either as all my games run smooth. And I'm still running a i7 4770K. I'm running a dinosaur rig compared to many of you I'm sure.

I'm running a Phenom II x4 955 system with a 5570