A driverless Waymo car wandered into a farmers market, and nobody knew how to stop it

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Facepalm: Waymo self-driving taxis might crash less often than human drivers, but they're far from perfect, and when they do something wrong, how do people let them know? That was the issue that appeared recently when a Waymo entered a farmers market as stall owners were setting up their stands.

The vehicle entered Denver's South Pearl Street Farmers Market on Sunday, September 20. Assistant market manager Shari Wilkins told 9News (via The Denver Gazette) that it arrived around 8:40 am, 20 minutes before the market was due to open.

Despite barricades and signs, the car made its way into the market, leaving workers trying to stop it and clear its path.

Market manager Nicole Jarman told Denver7 that the barricades were moved aside during setup to allow vendors' vehicles through. The Waymo followed that traffic flow inside.

Jarman said the vehicle was not driving recklessly, and no injuries were reported. But the incident left organizers wondering how to warn a vehicle that has no driver.

Jarman said the city had contacted her and would approach Waymo through Denver's Department of Transportation and Infrastructure to establish what workers should do if it happened again. Waymo said would learn from the incident as it continued improving safety.

A company spokesperson said the vehicle had already been navigating toward a destination on South Pearl Street when setup began. Waymo maintained that its system recognized the situation and maneuvered out of the market.

In July, it was reported that an independent Insurance Institute for Highway Safety analysis found Waymo vehicles had a 68% lower rate of police-reportable crashes than human drivers.

Across roughly 50 million autonomous miles, the rates were 1.28 crashes per million miles for Waymo and 4.06 for humans. Researchers adjusted for differences in reporting minor collisions, although operating conditions and comparisons with average drivers make the headline figures better than they sound.

Accountability for self-driving cars is also changing. California's new rules allow police to issue notices of noncompliance to autonomous vehicle manufacturers. The process gives authorities a route to report alleged traffic violations even when nobody is behind the wheel.

Denver's market encounter might not have been a crash, but it highlights another problem with autonomous vehicles. People sharing streets with robotaxis need to know how to get their attention when something goes wrong.

A far more serious incident in 2023 saw a Cruise robotaxi drag a pedestrian, who had been struck by another car, underneath its wheels, prompting a nationwide pause. GM later ended Cruise's robotaxi development. While nobody was hurt in Denver, the encounter again raises questions about how autonomous vehicles handle unexpected situations.

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When would people in those towns targeted by driverless vehicles understand that they are the guinea pigs picked to test the technology allowing it to make plenty of mistakes before the it is actually ready for full deployment world wide.
 
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It's gonna get really interesting if some sort of human hand gesture is implimented to stop these vehicles. People who oppose their existence will constantly be out stopping them whenever they desire. It will be a mess.
 
San Francisco mentioned a similar problem, when the vehicles have issues there's no standard way to address them. Waymo isn't always available or is slow responding, leaving the citys resources to deal with the situation. The costs of the beta test getting outsourced to the taxpayers.
 
They should put a kill button on the vehicle somewhere. Press it, and it causes the vehicle to take a time-out for 10-minutes or something like that to consider its actions and why its kill button was pressed. Or, it notifies Waymo that the kill button was pressed and won't resume until Waymo addresses the vehicle and the issue that caused the kill button to be pressed.

That would be one way of getting corporate Waymo's attention. Of course, that would likely have people preying on random Waymos, however.
 
Waymos are getting a little balsy, I hope they're not training them on actual human driving algos.

Was making a left turn on an uncontrolled yellow the other day, was in the middle of the intersection, everything was clear, and started to roll into the turn when a Waymo coming from the opposite direction actually *accelerated into the intersection* to beat the yellow light and narrowly missed my front bumper.

I was shocked, I figured Waymos would always slow and stop on a yellow but that clearly wasn't the case which was a surprising to say the least.
 
Headline: No one knew how to stop the Waymo
Article: Traffic control opened a roadblock for a Waymo and other cars, and after entering it safely left
It's gonna get really interesting if some sort of human hand gesture is implimented to stop these vehicles. People who oppose their existence will constantly be out stopping them whenever they desire. It will be a mess.
Hand gestures seem to work well for Tesla FSD. I bet they could've stopped the Waymo with them too. Obviously Tesla's is still supervised, so the driver can override and take over in the case of a bad actor or if the vehicle makes a mistake. Here are several examples:
- Pedestrian causing Tesla to reverse
- Car proceeds through intersection on hand signal after stopping with no lead car
- Car does not stop at stop sign on hand signals
- Car proceeds at booth on hand signals
- Car does not stop at red light on hand signals at night
 
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