GPU pricing is broken again - but the real question is how badly. We're putting hard numbers to this situation. How much have graphics card prices increased since memory prices went through the roof?
GPU pricing is broken again - but the real question is how badly. We're putting hard numbers to this situation. How much have graphics card prices increased since memory prices went through the roof?
That's not specific to your situation, upgrading a *high-end* model rarely makes sense within 5 years.Yet, still not a single card worth upgrading from a 3080Ti in that entire list, even when they were at "MSRP".
Even before the price increases, needing to spend $1K or more on a GPU that actually makes a meaningful gain in performance is not money well spent. Not to mention the awful showing of 5XXX series with power cable melting issues (even applies to the couple of 9070XT models that use it), driver issues and the black screen issues.....yeah, you couldn't pay me to use a Blackwell GPU.
With how things are going, this Ampere may very well be the last gaming GPU I ever buy. The next gen of GPU isn't going to see the light of day until late 2027, if we're lucky, from the current rumors going around. With how pricing is jumping I'd venture to guess all models that come out will see a solid 15% increase over what we currently call "MSRP".
Then, with how poor they've done (all sides) with performance gains I'd venture to guess that a RTX xx70 model might outdo my 3080Ti by 15%. Maybe AMD might be a good upgrade direction if they have another xx70XT model and they give a 15-20% gain over the current 9070XT model while keeping a similar price; that could be a decent upgrade.
I hate the current pricing but to say there's no upgrade from where you are is somewhat incorrect. The 3080 Ti at launch was high end and had a £999 MSRP in the UK. Fast forward to today and the RTX 5080 also has an MSRP of £999 but is on average 52% faster (Source: TechPowerUp). A substantially faster product at the same price point exists so if you needed something faster it's there. Not great value, but not terrible neither at MSRP.Yet, still not a single card worth upgrading from a 3080Ti in that entire list, even when they were at "MSRP".
Even before the price increases, needing to spend $1K or more on a GPU that actually makes a meaningful gain in performance is not money well spent.
I really have to wonder what world people live in when they say there's no improvement since ampere.I hate the current pricing but to say there's no upgrade from where you are is somewhat incorrect. The 3080 Ti at launch was high end and had a £999 MSRP in the UK. Fast forward to today and the RTX 5080 also has an MSRP of £999 but is on average 52% faster (Source: TechPowerUp). A substantially faster product at the same price point exists so if you needed something faster it's there. Not great value, but not terrible neither at MSRP.
Of course, this assumes MSRP. So on the other hand you have an entirely valid point where scalping and retailer markup push card prices well above MSRP. You then end up in a situation where the 52% extra performance mentioned above costs an extra 52% to buy also, which is bad as your then not improving performance per £, it's just scaling linearly which is what's happening at the moment and why nobody should buy.
Wait a second. Why would undercoating fix a connector that doesn't have widespread issues? The failures are not limited to the 4090, we've seen lower power cards fail too. So how would an under volt fix that?Power cable melting is not a widespread issue at all tho. And you can significantly decrease the risk with an undervolt.
Yet, still not a single card worth upgrading from a 3080Ti in that entire list, even when they were at "MSRP".
Are you unable to read?Wait a second. Why would undercoating fix a connector that doesn't have widespread issues? The failures are not limited to the 4090, we've seen lower power cards fail too. So how would an under volt fix that?
There are a lot of good upgrades from 3080Ti. Both 9070XT and 5080 are such.
-9070 XT is faster, more efficient, many designs near silent, has RT and quality upscaling features.
-5080 all of the above with more performance and better frame gen and of course costing more money, but 3080Ti also wasn't cheap or the best cost-performance ratio, so I don't see why its successor should be if you buy one.
And it could be about 30% faster without that RT junk.Framegen and RT are not legitimate features, a tiny fraction of the game market enables them. Raster is king.
The 9070xt is a little faster than his 3080ti in raw raster, does that justify the absolutely outrageous cost, not at all.
The 3080Ti was outrageously overpriced when it released due to the price gouging that Nvidia was really good at taking advantage of. By the end of it's run when GPUs were falling in price it was priced very reasonably. I got mine for $750 brand new (around $815 after taxes).There are a lot of good upgrades from 3080Ti. Both 9070XT and 5080 are such.
-9070 XT is faster, more efficient, many designs near silent, has RT and quality upscaling features.
-5080 all of the above with more performance and better frame gen and of course costing more money, but 3080Ti also wasn't cheap or the best cost-performance ratio, so I don't see why its successor should be if you buy one.
Tariffs nonsense, inflation and the US$ losing value explains why the US prices are up (especially when measured in $). You can thank Donald.
You're combining two different ideas there.Well, as long as Pc Gamers keep behaving like the FOMO driven 1diots they are, then someone will always be there to take advantage of their stupidity...
If playing video games is the most important thing in your life and will convince you to drop absurd amounts of cash on GPUs, RAM and SSDs then you need to take a long hard look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself what's gone wrong.
Youre just regurgitating propoganda.Tariffs nonsense, inflation and the US$ losing value explains why the US prices are up (especially when measured in $). You can thank Donald.