AMC Theatres eyes mid to late August reopening in the US

[ShadowDeath]

The attitude of “I don’t think it’s that serious” which so many Americans have... and so they go about their daily lives not bothering to social distance... and cases in the US keep going up - as does the death rate...

THAT attitude!!!

If everyone would social distance, wear a mask when they can’t, and generally not be a compete m0ron, the US would be on the way to recovery instead of the nightmare they’re in now!

I'm not saying it isn't serious. I'm saying that the news and politicians here in the US are using it for political gain and playing it up. (See links below to CDC site) I suspect that after voting is over the news will move on to other things. The reason why they're hot on it now is because they can scare everyone. US news doesn't actually care about Covid-19 besides the ratings it brings. If they did they would be honest and criticize everyone who is gathering right now no matter the cause. As far a social distancing I don't even think about it in my daily life. When they introduced that to the US it wasn't a chance for my area because people here prefer to have space between each other. The only people who don't are either creepy people or pick pockets.

My actual attitude towards all of this is if our politicians and media would stop trying to push their own political gains we could have taken care of this long ago. Trump puts in travel restrictions and gets called Racist. Dems say you can't go out for 4th of July even social distancing BUT it's ok if you go out and protest for BLM.... Forget social distancing there. This is what I criticized in my original post.

Now that being said according to the CDC actual Covid-19 deaths are 134,245 people from 2/1/2020 to 7/27/2020 these aren't necessarily Covid-19 deaths they are "All deaths involving Covid-19" which means they could have died from something else and Covid-19 added to it.

According to the CDC this involves "Deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (covid-19), pneumonia, and influenza reported by NCHS by week ending date, United States. Week ending 2/1/2020 to 7/25/2020

This info found here:

Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

National Center for Health Statistics

www.cdc.gov

Also, the CDC updated their Covid-19 tracker 7/27/2020 at 1:31PM a total of 4,225,687 cases on record in the US. Note: this does not count those who are unaware that they have covid-19 due to asymptomatic conditions. So for all we know that number is much higher.

Then again their tracker shows 146,546 deaths.

COVID Data Tracker

CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website.

www.cdc.gov

So according to this our rates are as follows:
4,225,687 Infected
146,546 deaths

Yes it is a serious virus that kills, but it doesn't kill by itself and the majority of people who have died from it had preexisting conditions.

People bitched that us Americans weren't healthy, well here is the proof.

 

[Neatfeatguy]

The attitude of “I don’t think it’s that serious” which so many Americans have... and so they go about their daily lives not bothering to social distance... and cases in the US keep going up - as does the death rate...

THAT attitude!!!

If everyone would social distance, wear a mask when they can’t, and generally not be a compete m0ron, the US would be on the way to recovery instead of the nightmare they’re in now!

You do realize "social distance" is an oxymoron, don't you?

Anyone that blindly follows the media/social media/news/politicians without questioning what they're being told, they are part of the problem.

Is covid real? I suppose it must be - I had coworkers back in January of this year go into the clinics/doctor offices because they were running a fever for 4-6 days, sore joints, mild coughs. They were tested for influenza and came back negative. They were told they had some unknown virus. A week or so after they had symptoms, they were back to normal and doing their work.

It's estimated that since the start of July there has been 600,000 new covid tests each day. By those numbers that's 4.2 million tests a week. Or seeing as it's been 27 days since the start of July, 16.2million tests have been done.
Total tests having been done are reported by the CDC (since the start of having tests) is 53 million
Total US population is estimated at 330 million.
Nearly 20% of the US population is "supposedly" reported to have been tested.

If that many people have been tested, why do I know so few people that even know anyone that's been tested?

I've spoken with nurses and people that work the medical field - they tell me any company that requires daily tests for their employees, those tests are counted for "new" tests. So if one person has been tested every single day this month due to their work requirement, they're not counted as 1 person being tested this month, they're being counted as 27 people.

I've also spoken with nurses who have flat out said they've had doctors list the initial cause of death as "covid" even though it's clearly not the cause of death. Like a vehicular accident - the patient came in and pronounced dead due to injuries. Cause of death was listed as covid even though no test was administered. This is just one of the stories I've gotten from people.

I'm not one to say you people are wrong on either side of the story, but the truth is, the public isn't being told everything correctly. So to blindly follow the media/social media/news/politicians, that's where a big part of the problem is, don't just blindly follow. Ask, question. Don't just be a sheep.

 

[Squid Surprise]

You do realize "social distance" is an oxymoron, don't you?

Anyone that blindly follows the media/social media/news/politicians without questioning what they're being told, they are part of the problem.

Is covid real? I suppose it must be - I had coworkers back in January of this year go into the clinics/doctor offices because they were running a fever for 4-6 days, sore joints, mild coughs. They were tested for influenza and came back negative. They were told they had some unknown virus. A week or so after they had symptoms, they were back to normal and doing their work.

It's estimated that since the start of July there has been 600,000 new covid tests each day. By those numbers that's 4.2 million tests a week. Or seeing as it's been 27 days since the start of July, 16.2million tests have been done.
Total tests having been done are reported by the CDC (since the start of having tests) is 53 million
Total US population is estimated at 330 million.
Nearly 20% of the US population is "supposedly" reported to have been tested.

If that many people have been tested, why do I know so few people that even know anyone that's been tested?

I've spoken with nurses and people that work the medical field - they tell me any company that requires daily tests for their employees, those tests are counted for "new" tests. So if one person has been tested every single day this month due to their work requirement, they're not counted as 1 person being tested this month, they're being counted as 27 people.

I've also spoken with nurses who have flat out said they've had doctors list the initial cause of death as "covid" even though it's clearly not the cause of death. Like a vehicular accident - the patient came in and pronounced dead due to injuries. Cause of death was listed as covid even though no test was administered. This is just one of the stories I've gotten from people.

I'm not one to say you people are wrong on either side of the story, but the truth is, the public isn't being told everything correctly. So to blindly follow the media/social media/news/politicians, that's where a big part of the problem is, don't just blindly follow. Ask, question. Don't just be a sheep.

And, once again... here's part of the problem...

REGARDLESS of whether you are being a "sheep" or not, by not following proper health procedures, YOU are part of the problem. And by encouraging people to question it - this makes more people think "nah, I don't need to wear a mask".... Thus making YOU a part of the problem!

Let's pretend this actually is just a hoax... despite the ENTIRE WORLD believing it (but hey, they all believe the US put a man on the moon, right?).... let's say it really "nothing much"...

So you stay home, social distance, wear a mask... etc... worse case scenario - you did it for nothing...

But let's pretend that it really is just as bad as everyone says it is.... by going out and partying - you're now - LITERALLY - killing people!

I agree - the government probably isn't telling us everything... but it's pretty clear that there IS a really serious disease out there that has killed tens of thousands.... let's maybe trust just a bit - what's the harm?

 

[Neatfeatguy]

And, once again... here's part of the problem...

REGARDLESS of whether you are being a "sheep" or not, by not following proper health procedures, YOU are part of the problem. And by encouraging people to question it - this makes more people think "nah, I don't need to wear a mask".... Thus making YOU a part of the problem!

Let's pretend this actually is just a hoax... despite the ENTIRE WORLD believing it (but hey, they all believe the US put a man on the moon, right?).... let's say it really "nothing much"...

So you stay home, social distance, wear a mask... etc... worse case scenario - you did it for nothing...

But let's pretend that it really is just as bad as everyone says it is.... by going out and partying - you're now - LITERALLY - killing people!

I agree - the government probably isn't telling us everything... but it's pretty clear that there IS a really serious disease out there that has killed tens of thousands.... let's maybe trust just a bit - what's the harm?

Yes, because I go out and party. /s

Don't assume.

I've always been mostly anti-social. I don't enjoy close physical contact from pretty much everyone. I hate crowds. I even hate grocery shopping during normal hours because there are too many people. Before all this "covid" stuff happened, I'd happily go grocery shopping at midnight to avoid people. Now I'm forced to get my shopping done with every other person because the local grocery stores close by 9pm now instead of being open 24/7. Open up at 6am, close at 9pm.

Even if it is a "hoax" as you jokingly said and then you say "you stay home, social distance, wear a mask... etc... worse case scenario - you did it for nothing..."

If that was the worst case scenario it was an awful scenario for millions and millions of people that were told by the government who was and was not "essential" in their books. They then told millions of people who could work and who couldn't.
The government forced businesses to close, people to lose out on work, jobs, income, social distance, unable to visit family members in assisted living homes like my 96 year old grandpa, a WWII vet, hasn't been allowed to to have any visitors for the past 5 months. At the rate things are going with his naturally declining health from his old age, he's going to be one of the millions of people that will die every year (not from covid) in the US and he'll die alone. He gets zero physical contact from the outside, at best we can facetime/skype with him once a week during his scheduled time slot. I can call him on his land line phone to talk with him when I want, but the last few months he's expressed how sad and bored he is. He and all the other residents are kept at a 6ft distance or more from each other. His daughter and 3 sons that live within an hour or two from him are not allowed to visit. Just think of all the other elderly folks that are being withheld from family due to all of this....if it's a hoax, it's a pretty shitty one.

Your end of the spectrum to "trust" and follow isn't any rosier than those saying this is all a hoax or that it's not real.

So, yes, when you blindly follow without asking questions and getting all the correct information, you're nothing more than a sheep. That's what sheep do, blindly follow. That's why they have the saying "We the sheeple" or to "follow blindly like a sheep".

To assume I'm condoning everyone to go out and "party", as you say, is your assumption. I never said it and I never condoned mass gatherings or not wearing masks or anything in my last posting. I'm saying people need to question and divulge proper information and draw a proper conclusion to everything. If you wish to hide, not ask questions and blindly follow - then do so, but stop telling everyone else they're wrong when you don't have the answers and you're not asking the questions. Just because someone doesn't blindly follow like a sheep means they're doing something wrong. Maybe, just maybe they really want to know if all the effort to blindly follow is the correct path or if it's not.

Personally, based on all the people I've spoken with in the medical field - it's not and we're not being told everything.

 

[Squid Surprise]

To assume I'm condoning everyone to go out and "party", as you say, is your assumption. I never said it and I never condoned mass gatherings or not wearing masks or anything in my last posting. I'm saying people need to question and divulge proper information and draw a proper conclusion to everything. If you wish to hide, not ask questions and blindly follow - then do so, but stop telling everyone else they're wrong when you don't have the answers and you're not asking the questions. Just because someone doesn't blindly follow like a sheep means they're doing something wrong. Maybe, just maybe they really want to know if all the effort to blindly follow is the correct path or if it's not.

No... you didn't... but it's things like this that influence other people to go out and party.... cause it "must be a conspiracy" so everything else we're told must be wrong too...

Again, there actually IS a highly contagious disease out there - and it's killed 150,000 in the US alone in less than 6 months....

The government SHOULD be telling us not to work unless we're essential - and we all SHOULD be wearing masks!!

Is some of the data possibly wrong? Yes. Does that really matter? NO!!!

 

[MaxSmarties]

Reading some comments above I know why people is still dying in US, contributing to keep the virus alive and circulating...

the idea of a “world misinformation “ where Chinese, European and Americans have said the same “wrong” things is just ridiculous.
the virus is here and it is deadly. Yes, many people died for underlying medical conditions, but they wouldn’t have died without the Covid-19.
Chinese tried to hide the truth, in their usual way, until it was too late, but then they reacted (I still don’t believe their numbers, the situation was much probably worse than official data).
WHO made mistakes, but it was a new disease and they had just a few of manipulated (by China) data at the time. Even today, almost a year into the pandemic (which probably started well before December...) many things are not clear about the virus and the human body response to it.
Social distancing and lockdowns are a solution. They worked in Europe. They weren’t applied really in Brazil and USA. The results are under our eyes.
A lockdown can’t be kept forever, otherwise people will die for other reasons, but social distancing can be arranged globally and indefinitely. And stop gathering to protest in this historical period is a first move that Americans are ignoring (another would be stop gathering to have party, an even more *****ic move).
we don’t even know if there will be a vaccine (we are not sure the immunity stays forever), so for now we have to live with the virus, changing our lifestyle.

 

[lipe123]

Is covid real? I suppose it must be - I had coworkers back in January of this year go into the clinics/doctor offices because they were running a fever for 4-6 days, sore joints, mild coughs. They were tested for influenza and came back negative. They were told they had some unknown virus. A week or so after they had symptoms, they were back to normal and doing their work.

I have several family members that had cancer and are back at work again, so clearly cancer is also totally overrated because my sample size of 3 is what drives the data right?

See the problem with that argument? I also know of at least 3 people that had covid and recovered without going to hospital. That doesn't mean it applies to everyone equally because.. spoiler alert no two people are really the same and react the same to diseases.

Anything we can do to prevent 1% or 0.5% of people die from whatever is a cause worthy of pursuing.

I mean nearly 150k people are dead while the US was trying to control this, now that it's even less under control and people want to go have fun in summer and re-open things what will the next 6 months look like?

Sure open movie theaters but at least make sure people sit spaced out or with family and wear masks.
I think what makes this such a "issue" is the extreme resistance to wearing a mask. People gladly wear scarves and other coverings when its cold AF but God forbid your face gets covered to keep others safe!?
sunscreen is fine, safety belts are fine, airbags are good etc etc.. but omg.. NOT MASKS?!?

 

[PEnnn]

Honestly I would t be surprised if it magically disappears from the news after November 4th.

You must be thinking of the Republican Benghazi circus that stopped the day after the elections.

We're discussing a world-wide epidemic here that has killed 1/2 a million people world-wide and 150,000 in the US. And unlike what you and your leader insinuate, it's not a hoax / flu and it's not going away suddenly the day after the elections.

The world and the virus couldn't care a fig about US politics.