AMD is showing off more of its own Radeon RX 6000 benchmarks, edging out the GeForce competition

Markoni35

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I sold my 2080ti and was all ready to buy the 3090 until the (even more than 2080ti) ridiculous price to performance was revealed. Then I was all set on the 3080 until the 10gb vram gave me pause and then it was impossible to buy one anyway.

Does that mean you're now without a graphics card? Surfing the net on your cellphone? Or using printer with perforated paper as terminal output?
 

Markoni35

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I loved the "it's too hot" and "it consumes too much power" comments from the AMD crew before the new cards were revealed though, that was fun.

But the release time is perfect, as Winter is Coming, and high-consumption cards that produce lots of heat will be in demand.

 

Danny101

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That was the 4GB RX 5500XT. The reason for the performance gain is because it had only 8x PCIe lanes & it was regularly running out of VRAM. Thus, PCIe 4.0 helped it shuffle data back & forth into that limited VRAM pool faster. The 8GB model didn't see the same benefits as games could actually fit all their assets in VRAM at once.
So being locked to 8x , one should seek to avoid this card on a PCIe 3.0 slot system?
 

Danny101

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RT is just another visual algorithm. Albeit a complex, resource intensive algorithm among many. It would be nice if it had sliders controlling the intensity level. It's new and underutilized at this point but game companies can't program for something that's not available. Utilization will come in time and hopefully it can eventually be grafted to the older games. You can turn off a few of the legacy algorithms, use RT, and still have a nice-looking game with decent frame rate. Being a PC, you can experiment with it. Which is why I like PC gaming. Many more options.
 

Bamda

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Now that it's on consoles and AMD hardware I expect to see it explode in use once the major game engines have solid support for it.

I will always support game improvements like Ray Tracing. If like you said RT will "explode" then that is great for gamers. Time will tell if I am right or wrong, either way, I will be ready.
 

Cooe14

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So being locked to 8x , one should seek to avoid this card on a PCIe 3.0 slot system?
Yes. On a PCIe 3.0 only system, get the 8GB model or just get something else. The performance difference between PCIe 3.0 & 4.0 can be significant. (In this case, I'd definitely just get something else tbh. Assuming your PSU isn't ****, RX 580 8GB's can be had for peanuts w/ similar perf to a 5500 XT and lower end Ampere & RDNA 2 cards are incoming ASAP).

On a B550 based budget rig though, the RX 5500 XT 4GB can be a pretty good card, assuming the price is right ofc. (If it's not though, buying a 4GB card atm over say a used 8GB RX 580 is pretty freaking stupid as a long term move. 4GB of VRAM is ALREADY not enough for modern titles maxed out at 1080p [hence the perf gains w/ PCIe 4.0]).
 

Cooe14

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An overclocked result is not comparable. AMD is folling you guys although I acknowledge that their GPU's are really good this time.
Rage Mode isn't an overclock, in any way, shape, or form (officially according to AMD it merely slightly bumps up the power limit & fan curve settings for +≈1-2% more performance. Clock-speed settings literally aren't touched at all), and isn't even enabled in these benchmarks. Only Smart Access Memory ("SAM") is turned on in these, which DEFINITELY isn't an "overclock".

According to recent leaks, Navi 21 overclocks like an absolute bat out of freaking hell when pushed, into like ≈2.5GHz territory, at which point it would absolutely SMASH the stock+SAM results seen here.
 

Danny101

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Yes. On a PCIe 3.0 only system, get the 8GB model or just get something else. The performance difference between PCIe 3.0 & 4.0 can be significant. (In this case, I'd definitely just get something else tbh. Assuming your PSU isn't ****, RX 580 8GB's can be had for peanuts w/ similar perf to a 5500 XT and lower end Ampere & RDNA 2 cards are incoming ASAP).

On a B550 based budget rig though, the RX 5500 XT 4GB can be a pretty good card, assuming the price is right ofc. (If it's not though, buying a 4GB card atm over say a used 8GB RX 580 is pretty freaking stupid as a long term move. 4GB of VRAM is ALREADY not enough for modern titles maxed out at 1080p [hence the perf gains w/ PCIe 4.0]).
Kind of what I thought. With the current build, I'm using a combo of Ryzen 3 & 570 RX, so whatever I get next must be a significant upgrade. Not sure whether a cpu or gpu would be the better benefit. I'm thinking a cpu, but Zen 3 is out as an option with this board. The lastest APU might be a viable option, since I'm not after the lastest and greatest. Would AMD release an APU for x370, containing RT?