AMD launches 7 new Ryzen CPUs: Ryzen 5 5600 is official at $200, plus more budget parts

KaitouX

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True, we'll most likely see 20-30% extra MT performance. I doubt we'll see much in terms of ST (single digits).

But since AMD announced that Zen4 will come sooner than expected, it might be wise to wait a bit more (unless people absolutely need a PC right now, which can happen). Maybe intel will be forced to lower prices too :)
Yeah, probably 8~10% or so better ST on average.

I have my doubts if Zen 4 is going to be that good. Even a 30% ST increase over Zen 3 would put it only slightly ahead of a Raptor Lake with a ~5% ST increase over Alder Lake. The biggest issue is probably going to be in the multi-core side, AMD would need to drop the core counts by one "tier" as they would absolutely need a 8 core CPU to compete against a 6p+4e core CPU, and even then, it would probably lose by a lot to a possible 6p+8e core CPU.
Platform prices might also be a negative for Zen 4, as DDR5 + new motherboards are probably going to be a more expensive.

But I hope it manages to be competitive all around against Raptor Lake, nothing better than having good options from both Intel and AMD.
 

Puiu

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Yeah, probably 8~10% or so better ST on average.

I have my doubts if Zen 4 is going to be that good. Even a 30% ST increase over Zen 3 would put it only slightly ahead of a Raptor Lake with a ~5% ST increase over Alder Lake. The biggest issue is probably going to be in the multi-core side, AMD would need to drop the core counts by one "tier" as they would absolutely need a 8 core CPU to compete against a 6p+4e core CPU, and even then, it would probably lose by a lot to a possible 6p+8e core CPU.
Platform prices might also be a negative for Zen 4, as DDR5 + new motherboards are probably going to be a more expensive.

But I hope it manages to be competitive all around against Raptor Lake, nothing better than having good options from both Intel and AMD.
It's all about value in the end. The AM5 platform will also play a huge role in how well Zen4 will be received. What I like is that they increased the PCIe lanes for the CPUs to 28.
 

EdmondRC

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I have a 5800X and I really want to try the 5800X3D.. but not willing to fork over $449 when I'd probably get less than $300 for my 5800X if I sold it.
 

Aceseven

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Unless you're upgrading, Zen 3 is not really worth it compared to Alder Lake, particularly in the $250 to $400 range. For example for a similar price of the 5700X you can get either the 12600K(F) or 12700(F), both of which outperform the 5800X overall.

Really hoped for better pricing than the rumors suggested, this is mostly the same price as Alder Lake, but you get an older dead-end platform, and in some cases lower performance.
my chip is ivy bridge, its quite ancient now so this would be a sweet upgrade over it.
 

MarcusNumb

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Good news but I'm not convinced to upgrade my 3600x, pairing with a 3070ti. I will wait for the AM5 then. Anw, I'm kinda confused between upgrading my 1080p monitor to 1440p then use 2 monitors, or upgrading my CPU to maximize my 3070ti, any suggestions guys ?
 

Sausagemeat

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So, I guess we can thank Intel for forcing AMD to finally drop more affordable SKU’s?

I’d still pick Alder lake over Ryzen 5000. It’s faster, has more features and in most cases it’s cheaper too.
 

KaitouX

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I'd take 5700X all the way. Don't forget the Z690 motherboard cost for 12700K. That's not a mere $50 more.
Or you can get a 12700(F) and B660 board, which would outperform the 5800X by a decent bit. You can even get the "K" variant with a B660 board, you lose overclock, but it's not like OC is really worth on these parts, doubling the power consumption for 5% better performance is kinda dumb.
 

Puiu

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Good news but I'm not convinced to upgrade my 3600x, pairing with a 3070ti. I will wait for the AM5 then. Anw, I'm kinda confused between upgrading my 1080p monitor to 1440p then use 2 monitors, or upgrading my CPU to maximize my 3070ti, any suggestions guys ?
It depends on what GPU you have now. a dual monitor setup is nice, but if you can't run games on at least one of those monitors then you might want to upgrade the GPU first and buy your monitors at a later date.
 

MarcusNumb

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It depends on what GPU you have now. a dual monitor setup is nice, but if you can't run games on at least one of those monitors then you might want to upgrade the GPU first and buy your monitors at a later date.
I'm using a 3070ti msi gaming trio x
 

toooooot

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Such good cpus. I have never used amd cpus and I am tempted. Too bad motherboards as expensive as intel, if not more.
 

fluffydroid

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Up until 2020 I had been with Intel for around 20 years. Now both my desktop and laptop use Ryzen cpu's. They have been excellent.
 

DrewTheBrave

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my chip is ivy bridge, its quite ancient now so this would be a sweet upgrade over it.
Honestly, any of these new chips will be a solid upgrade for you. I was still running my old Ivy Bridge 4930k when I managed to get a 3060Ti at launch. It was a significant upgrade, but I could finally notice the 8-year old CPU holding me back with consistent micro-stuttering. I was lucky enough in 2021 to snag an Intel i7 10700k ($150 from MicroCenter) and the difference was immediately noticeable. The 4930k was playable, but at nearly a decade old it was definitely showing its age. The 10700k may be 2 generations old when I got it, but at $150 it's plenty capable for gaming! I'm content to run this for the next 4-5 years before I need another upgrade - when hopefully there's another smoking hot clearance deal from MicroCenter on last year's chip.

Whether you choose AMD or Intel, it's really hard to go wrong today. The Alder Lake CPUs are great, but now that AMD is dropping prices on the 5000 series chips, they're good value for the price again. My last AMD chip was the Phenom II X4 965 Black edition in 2009, and that was probably the last time they were really competitive with Intel for gaming until the Zen architecture. Glad to see some much tougher competition in today's CPU market. With GPU prices coming back down to a somewhat reasonable level, it's not a bad time to start a new build.
 

MarcusNumb

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The 5000 series now are competitive again if you consider the power efficiency. The electric bill is getting bigger and bigger, with no sign of going down, so personally I prefer AMD over Intel.