AMD may include AIO liquid coolers with Ryzen Threadripper CPUs

I am not reading defense per se. Ryzen is great for what it is: a high core/thread desktop/production/workstation CPU.

I haven't seen Ryzen tablet/laptop CPUs out in the wild though. While it's good to see AMD win market share in the desktop space as far as sales go laptops and portables seem to outsell desktops.
Yeah, because they haven't released the mobile SKUs yet. Or did you not realize that?

Given that Ryzen is stupid power efficient once you back down the clocks to about 3GHz, I'd be surprised if Ryzen mobile SKUs and APUs aren't very, very attractive.
 
I don't want to be moderator, just think this is a tech news site rather than Reddit and would expect I guess a higher level of quality comments as a result.

Things seem to be heading down hill where previously there were good technical discussion. Guess I expect to much.
No, from what I've read, you gush all over whatever AMD does, like some doe eyed school girl. Then, you expect everybody else to do the same. And if they don't well, they're just not as smart as you, not as educated as you, know as much about computers like you do. To sum it up, they even fail at being their own heroes, which you accomplish with consummate ease. But most importantly, anybody who isn't on the AMD bandwagon, should just shut up, right?

Anyway, I've been here for 10 years, and have suffered all manner of AMD fanboys. To me, you're nothing new, and nothing special.

And now I'll tell you how it goes in the real world. First, AMD is recovering from an unannounced bankruptcy. So it seems foolish for them to be drastically undercutting Intel's prices, let alone throwing in free water cooling systems.

Then there's this, Intel and Apple are sort of birds of a feather, and like the weather, everybody complains about all three, and nobody can do a damned thing about them.

Gosh how many people run their yaps constantly about Apple's excess of price and relatively low performance (*). Well, Intel has performance and lots and lots of customers. It's really just a game of leapfrog, Intel and AMD. AMD just, (arguably), jumped over Intel, and now it's sitting in front of Intel, with its legs spread and bent over. And............what happened then, you might as? I think I have a pretty good idea.

At the end of the day, half the people running on about the new AMD processors, aren't even ready to buy a new computer, for a variety of reasons.

Which leaves you holding the bag to keep AMD afloat.. Add guess what, if you don't buy an Intel CPU, it won't mean squat in the grand scheme of things, either here, or at Reddit. I've never been there, I'll have to take your word for what it's like.

But I will say, here at Techspot, people are entitled to their opinions. Yes, even @hahahanoobs. We're also pretty much a family, at least for those of us who have been here for a while. And yes, we have all the issues associated with families, in case you were going to ask.

Take note, you're not going to sashay over here from Facebook, Reddit, Snapchat, or whatever god forsaken web-hole you came from, and start telling members what it is they're allowed to say.

(*) BTW, legions of "iSheep" will stand in line for days, to get a new iPhone, regardless of how much it may cost.
 
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I don't want to be moderator, just think this is a tech news site rather than Reddit and would expect I guess a higher level of quality comments as a result.

Things seem to be heading down hill where previously there were good technical discussion. Guess I expect to much.
No, from what I've read, you gush all over whatever AMD does, like some doe eyed school girl. Then, you expect everybody else to do the same. And if they don't well, they're just not as smart as you, not as educated as you, know as much about computers like you do. To sum it up, they even fail at being their own heroes, which you accomplish with consummate ease. But most importantly, anybody who isn't on the AMD bandwagon, should just shut up, right?

Anyway, I've been here for 10 years, and have suffered all manner of AMD fanboys. To me, you're nothing new, and nothing special.

And now I'll tell you how it goes in the real world. First, AMD is recovering from an unannounced bankruptcy. So it seems foolish for them to be drastically undercutting Intel's prices, let alone throwing in free water cooling systems.

Then there's this, Intel and Apple are sort of birds of a feather, and like the weather, everybody complains about all three, and nobody can do a damned thing about them.

Gosh how many people run their yaps constantly about Apple's excess of price and relatively low performance (*). Well, Intel has performance and lots and lots of customers. It's really just a game of leapfrog, Intel and AMD. AMD just, (arguably), jumped over Intel, and now it's sitting in front of Intel, with its legs spread and bent over. And............what happened then, you might as? I think I have a pretty good idea.

At the end of the day, half the people running on about the new AMD processors, aren't even ready to buy a new computer, for a variety of reasons.

Which leaves you holding the bag to keep AMD afloat.. Add guess what, if you don't buy an Intel CPU, it won't mean squat in the grand scheme of things, either here, or at Reddit. I've never been there, I'll have to take your word for what it's like.

But I will say, here at Techspot, people are entitled to their opinions. Yes, even @hahahanoobs. We're also pretty much a family, at least for those of us who have been here for a while. And yes, we have all the issues associated with families, in case you were going to ask.

Take note, you're not going to sashay over here from Facebook, Reddit, Snapchat, or whatever god forsaken web-hole you came from, and start telling members what it is they're allowed to say.

(*) BTW, legions of "iSheep" will stand in line for days, to get a new iPhone, regardless of how much it may cost.

Wow that was long, I didn't actually read it as was too long, but can guess what you said.

I think giving some credit to amd for what they have achieved is due, praising intel for their shitty product line makes no sense, trolling negative spew into this comments makes no sense.

Ryzen is pretty good CPU and the infinity fabric they developed is just awesome engineering which I think that everyone can get on board as you get more product for less.

Vega yeah will be a disappointment and I have ordered a 1080ti but plastering hate of the Vega lineup provides no value to anyone. Want to talk about the tech behind the cards sure get on board but putting random amd sucks crap in a comment is the art of a 10 year old.

I am also a fan of Elon Musk, whisky and hiking.

I don't like snakes, slow innovation and apple.

What I don't do is bad mouth then and tell snakes they suck all day long. But if I see a snake and it doesn't bite me I will give him a nod for a job well done
 
Wow that was long, I didn't actually read it as was too long,....[ ]...I think giving some credit to amd for what they have achieved is due, praising intel for their shitty product line makes no sense, trolling negative spew into this comments makes no sense. ...[ ]...
Intel buried AMD ten years ago, driving them into de facto bankruptcy, and they'll likely do it again soon enough. Now go rave on to somebody who even comes close to caring what you think.

PS: Gee, I hope this post isn't too long for you to wrap your tiny little brain around.
 
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....[ ]...I think giving some credit to amd for what they have achieved is due, praising intel for their shitty product line makes no sense, trolling negative spew into this comments makes no sense. ...[ ]...
Intel buried AMD ten years ago, driving them into de facto bankruptcy, and they'll likely do it again soon enough. Now go rave on to somebody who even comes close to caring what you think.

Lol that is the best comment I have seen all day and honestly laughed out loud.

I think I will close my techspot account, not what it used to be.

Enjoy you small internet empire
 
Wow that was long, I didn't actually read it as was too long,....[ ]...I think giving some credit to amd for what they have achieved is due, praising intel for their shitty product line makes no sense, trolling negative spew into this comments makes no sense. ...[ ]...
Intel buried AMD ten years ago, driving them into de facto bankruptcy, and they'll likely do it again soon enough. Now go rave on to somebody who even comes close to caring what you think.

PS: Gee, I hope this post isn't too long for you to wrap your tiny little brain around.

Also a personal insult in your message, it doesn't look good on you and shouldn't be on here.

Actually all these comments should be deleted as let's be honest are nothing to to with aio coolers.

Oh I forgot I like aio coolers too!
 
Also a personal insult in your message, it doesn't look good on you and shouldn't be on here.

Actually all these comments should be deleted as let's be honest are nothing to to with aio coolers.

Oh I forgot I like aio coolers too!
Listen, this is all a big misunderstanding. It completely slipped my mind that you likely wouldn't be able to handle any post longer than 137 characters. Too much of a stressor, I imagine

Was that succinct enough for ya?

You keep telling all the things you like. I'll get really freaky if If you start posting things, "I like long walks in the rain", I can assure you our dating compatibility is less than nil.

I think I will close my techspot account, not what it used to be.
What does one say to something like that? Wait, I know, "promises, promises, promises"\.

OTOH, how would you know what Techspot used to be like? You've only been here for 34 posts.
 
Also a personal insult in your message, it doesn't look good on you and shouldn't be on here.

Actually all these comments should be deleted as let's be honest are nothing to to with aio coolers.

Oh I forgot I like aio coolers too!
Listen, this is all a big misunderstanding. It completely slipped my mind that you likely wouldn't be able to handle any post longer than 137 characters. Too much of a stressor, I imagine

Was that succinct enough for ya?

You keep telling all the things you like. I'll get really freaky if If you start posting things, "I like long walks in the rain", I can assure you our dating compatibility is less than nil.

I think I will close my techspot account, not what it used to be.
What does one say to something like that? Wait, I know, "promises, promises, promises"\.

OTOH, how would you know what Techspot used to be like? You've only been here for 34 posts.


Miss understanding I could agree too. I think things need to stay on point here to the article at hand and that has been lost, you have to agree to that.

I have been here for along time, but changed accounts due to lost email and forgotten password.

Age on here shouldn't mean anything on a site like this as it doesn't belong to the people who have been here the longest. If it runs like that then techspot will become irrelevant.
 
Miss understanding I could agree too. I think things need to stay on point here to the article at hand and that has been lost, you have to agree to that....[ ]....
OK, let's stay on point. Intel did almost destroy AMD with their "Core" releases. You have a truly worrisome fanaticism for AMD.

For me, I honestly don't care one way or another which manufacturer triumphs.

Ryzen, "looks good on paper". It's a clever name. But you, and every other fan(atic), are moving forward with posts which really resemble the homeless guy on the corner whose sign says, "The (Intel's) End is Near".

Suddenly, everything in AMD's past is magically erased. Their exodus from Silicon Valley. Their clinging to life with archaic 28nm & 32nm CPUs. Hey, when the tools in your fab are paid off, you can wage a price war.

So now, somehow magically I'm supposed to believe that AMD can fabricate CPU 10x cheaper than Intel.

The argument is beyond Ryzen, to 10nm processes. As everyone likes to point out, "Intel hasn't done squat in the past, (pick a time frame)". But, they've been at 14nm for a couple of years. AMD just got there.

So, unless you know for certain where their R & D is with a 10nm, (or smaller), process, you can't speak effectively about what's going to happen next. The proof of that is with the 7600K overclockable (but you shouldn't over clock it), overheating issue.

I will concede, that Intel releases products with a built in "stupid tax". But, as they say, "a fool and his money are soon parted company", and if you spring for a "K" model i3, you're that very fool

Since the process hasn't shrunk narrower than 14nm, everybody, AMD included is going to "hit the wall", as far as clock speed goes. Or, they might have to start selling CPUs with liquid nitrogen coolers.

Now, someone needs to be an opposing voice to all the fanboys this thread has accrued. That's not me.

AMD, from what little I know of it, has released a worthwhile line of CPUs. With that said, Intel's lineup is far from, as you suggest, "sh!tty".

As for personal insults, (although there are none in this post), hey I'm just paying it forward.
 
Sweet back on tasks and good conversation.

I am about to board a plane but will reply in detail later.

Yeah amd sucked for a long time and the 7700k is a great CPU. Still the gaming king

The i9 is a terrible line of cpus, we were hoping to use it for vdi solutions but putting tesla cards into it is a total fail. So we are limited in options now with going xeons which are hugely expensive or amd. That is entirely on intel.

Phone off time.

Nn
 
Yeah, because they haven't released the mobile SKUs yet. Or did you not realize that?

Given that Ryzen is stupid power efficient once you back down the clocks to about 3GHz, I'd be surprised if Ryzen mobile SKUs and APUs aren't very, very attractive.
Since we're both in agreement that they do not exist yet in the market I'd have to say your speculation is on the aggressive side. I'd argue that the higher UPC of Intel CPUs will remain the superior option for most laptop/mobile users who tend to opt for dual core i5's for lighter workloads on portable machines.

Ryzen's value is its price for cores/threads.There's no synergy there with the majority of the ultrabook/laptop marktet.
 
Since we're both in agreement that they do not exist yet in the market I'd have to say your speculation is on the aggressive side. I'd argue that the higher UPC of Intel CPUs will remain the superior option for most laptop/mobile users who tend to opt for dual core i5's for lighter workloads on portable machines.

Ryzen's value is its price for cores/threads.There's no synergy there with the majority of the ultrabook/laptop marktet.
What is UPC?

Ryzen processors are more efficient in terms of power/performance, which is important for mobile markets. Dual Cores are barely enough for proper web browsing in 2017.
 
Just ignore Cranky, he's a t_d troll.
Why is that? I haven't told my first lie in this thread. It's just that you don't like me spoiling your long, long, long, overdue, "hooray, AMD is risen from the dead, and Intel just declared bankruptcy, fantasy party" Well parties tend to not last forever.

So, stay on topic, and don't worry your little fanboy self about me.
 
Please stop projecting and attributing arguments, claims, and posts I haven't made to myself.

And take an English class, your posts hurt to read.
 
What is UPC?

Ryzen processors are more efficient in terms of power/performance, which is important for mobile markets. Dual Cores are barely enough for proper web browsing in 2017.
Mistyped on phone. IPC was what I was referring to.

Ryzen is more efficient than Intel in the mobile space...which is why Intel has a ton of low power mobile chips. Mobile processors focus on great power management, high frequency boost, and low number of cores/threads. Ryzen has yet to release their 4 core desktop processors so I am not sure the mobile Ryzen revolution is anywhere on the HoRyzen (PUN TIME)!
 
Please stop projecting and attributing arguments, claims, and posts I haven't made to myself.
Nonetheless, you certainly are here for the AMD fiesta, now are't you.? You must be, since as I stated before, I haven't told a lie in this thread.

In fact, you calling me a troll is the first contact I've had with you.

And take an English class, your posts hurt to read.
I've had several college level English classes within the last ten years, and passed them all with flying colors.

(You really shouldn't start sentences with "and"). I learned that in 5th grade. OTOH, I do it frequently myself, so we'll call it a draw.

If you're concerned about proper grammar, you should take it up with some of the other AMD fanboys on this site. Some of them apparently don'y even know what the shift key is for. Oh well, I guess it's not used that much playing games. :D
 
Mistyped on phone. IPC was what I was referring to.

Ryzen is more efficient than Intel in the mobile space...which is why Intel has a ton of low power mobile chips. Mobile processors focus on great power management, high frequency boost, and low number of cores/threads. Ryzen has yet to release their 4 core desktop processors so I am not sure the mobile Ryzen revolution is anywhere on the HoRyzen (PUN TIME)!
...Because they haven't released it yet. Take a look at Ryzen performance when undervolted, the tests have been done.
 
...Because they haven't released it yet. Take a look at Ryzen performance when undervolted, the tests have been done.
OR we could wait until they're actually released then test them. Undervolting a desktop processor then claiming "DERP, that's gonna be the mobile performance" has a 50% chance of being right without any data to support that assertion. You don't think that the inclusion of the Vega iGPU is going to effect performance/battery life at all?

At least there's only 5 more months left in the half.

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