AMD's upcoming RDNA 5 flagship could target RTX 5080-level performance with better RT

[Starfals]

if it does give 5080 level of performance and does cost $1000 then that means it's about $500 cheaper than the part it's competing with. How is that a bad thing?

While I agree with what you said, the 5080 isn't 1500 anymore here. Its down to 1000 + 20% euro tax. So it costs exactly how much they announced it for. Sure, Crapsus cost like 1600-700 euro... but ye... thats just a bad scam company. Funny thing is, GB also tries to pull some insane Asus prices. Palit/GW/MSI are the last sane companies. I wonder when they will start overcharging too...

 

[yRaz]

While I agree with what you said, the 5080 isn't 1500 anymore here. Its down to 1000 + 20% euro tax. So it costs exactly how much they announced it for. Sure, Crapsus cost like 1600-700 euro... but ye... thats just a bad scam company. Funny thing is, GB also tries to pull some insane Asus prices. Palit/GW/MSI are the last sane companies. I wonder when they will start overcharging too...

In the US, the only stuff I see that's in stock is $1400+. Sure, there are $1200 models, but none of them are in stock. So if you wanted to buy a 5080 TODAY, you're basically paying $1500 and there are a surprising amount of models for $1800-1900. Who is buying these?

 

[DukeJukem]

if it does give 5080 level of performance and does cost $1000 then that means it's about $500 cheaper than the part it's competing with. How is that a bad thing?

Why are so many people liking this post? The 5080 MSRP is $1000. That's an equal price. "But Duke it no sell for $1000 though." Yeah, and the reason it's not $1000 is because people who write comments like this and the people who like them keep paying $1400-$1600 for one and the prices never lower.

Ya'll suck and are the reason for the continuation and growth of this infection.

 

[ET3D]

I'm not sure where the "target RTX 5080-level performance" speculation comes from. The 7900 XTX already performs at about that level (outside of RT), so it seems rather strange to speculate that RDNA 5 with the same number of cores will have 5080 level of performance. Although everything here is just speculation, including Kepler's posts.

 

[wiyosaya]

IMO, thse articles are getting like the articles on the latest Fusion breakthrough or battery breakthrough. All talk, but still vapor products.

I would love to see something like this from AMD. But for now, these articles seem to be nothing more than click-bait.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Did no one read the article?

It said compete with 6080...

-Article also says "may outperform a 5080" so the article says a lot of things, like most rumor articles do. Gotta cover all the bases!

That's the fun of rumors, gets the creative juices flowing. Next most engaging bit of content on here that doesn't involve Trump or Elon.

 

[wiyosaya]

-Article also says "may outperform a 5080" so the article says a lot of things, like most rumor articles do. Gotta cover all the bases!

That's the fun of rumors, gets the creative juices flowing. Next most engaging bit of content on here that doesn't involve Trump or Elon.

Creative juices? IMO, it seems more like saliva for some...

 

[Squid Surprise]

The assumption again is that Nvidia is going to push their consumer GPUs to 3nm, though historically, consumer GPUs tend to get the mature/ cheaper node treatment from Nvidia. So while I hope we see next gen GPUs utilising more advanced node, I would again taper expectations. For all you know, Nvidia may develop next gen consumer class GPUs on Samsung again to cut cost and avoid impacting their high margin AI GPUs produced at TSMC.

Regardless of node, it will definitely not be the same one they used this time - Nvidia hasn’t used the same node for 3 generations ever, so they WILL outperform the previous generation.

By how much? Who knows… but if AMD is only targeting the 5080, that will be 6070TI at best… so same as this generation’s 9070xt.

If people wouldn't pay outrageous prices for graphics cards their prices would have gone down. Blame consumers for the prices, too.


"...easily outperform the 5080..." I wouldn't be so sure since there is no way to know. Looking at their historical performance data where some newer cards didn't perform any better than some older ones since NVIDIA moved their cards down a tier without also moving the cards names down a tier. Their current 60 series is closer to a 50 series card from the past than a 60 series card.

Stop being a fanboy, these companies do not care about you. Actual performance is what matters, not speculation.

There’s no fanboy here… just pretty obvious logic. The 6080 WILL be better than the 5080… we don’t know by how much - 10-30% maybe? Doesn’t matter for my statement though… if AMD is targeting 5080, then they’re not making progress on performance… all about the prices to see if they’ll be worth buying.

 

[redgarl]

First off, RDNA 5 will not exist, it will be UDNA.

Second off, you are saying that the next gen AMD flagship will barely be 20% faster than the 9070XT, which is ridiculous since the 9070XT was not even a flagship.

AMD canceled the HALO product of RDNA4 because of CoWoS allocation at TSMC, however things have changed and allocation is available. AMD will release a UDNA flagship for sure, especially after seeing what Blackwell delivered.

By the same logic, you could expect AMD next gen flagship to be 50% faster than the current 9070XT, which would be a logical 25% over the 9070XT, with another 25% for gen uplift, which is really conservative.

 

[Squid Surprise]

Second off, you are saying that the next gen AMD flagship will barely be 20% faster than the 9070XT, which is ridiculous since the 9070XT was not even a flagship.

AMD canceled the HALO product of RDNA4 because of CoWoS allocation at TSMC, however things have changed and allocation is available. AMD will release a UDNA flagship for sure, especially after seeing what Blackwell delivered.

By the same logic, you could expect AMD next gen flagship to be 50% faster than the current 9070XT, which would be a logical 25% over the 9070XT, with another 25% for gen uplift, which is really conservative.

Except AMD is admitting it WON'T be a flagship - since they're targeting the 5080...

 

[yRaz]

Why are so many people liking this post? The 5080 MSRP is $1000. That's an equal price. "But Duke it no sell for $1000 though." Yeah, and the reason it's not $1000 is because people who write comments like this and the people who like them keep paying $1400-$1600 for one and the prices never lower.

Ya'll suck and are the reason for the continuation and growth of this infection.

The person who wrote this comment paid $320 for a 6700XT in 2023. MSRP has been a lie for the last 3 generations. Even people who are cheap like me are stuck paying 20% over MSRP

 

[Lionvibez]

Targeting a 5080 makes no sense.

It has be between the 4090 and 5090 at a minimum. If they can do that and keep the price between $1200-1500 it will sell.

a 5080 is not much faster than a 7900XTX.

 

[RickRick]

I miss the days of GPU competition, not the closely regulated supply stream that keeps prices artificially inflated over retail. A "good deal" on a mid-tier card is what - $100 over list? Years ago S3 and Matrox were in the mix. Spending $300 on a GPU was a binge. OK, maybe I'm dating myself, mut when there's only two real players in the GPU game and both have record profits year after year, it's obvious where the $$$ is going.

 

[umeng2002]

Targeting is informative. It tells you how much AMD is really trying to compete. At this point Radeon just exists to support IP blocks for custom SoC sales. They really aren't trying to take market share from nVidia™ desktop GPU sales.

 

[BogdanR]

Great try to match a last generation product when the opposition has moved 1 or 2 jumps ahead of you.

That was how AMD was supposed to compete this generation, with the previous gen mid tier Nvidia, only the green team forgot to jump so the red team’s mid-high tier card ended up competing rather well with the green’s current generation.

Besides, getting last year top tier performance at a decent price is not bad at all.

 

[amghwk]

Gone are the days when AMD competed against Nvidia's best and even kicked Nvidia out of the top chart everytime AMD came with its "flagship". (E.g. ATi Radeon 9800XT)

Then AMD started giving best-bang-for-the-money cards - 5700XT comes to mind.

And now, AMD seems to be content with giving out a card that roughly matches the second and third best cards from Nvidia, no longer going for the top crown.

Perhaps they are too snug with the success of their CPU lines, with no competition in sight. Further aggravated by Intel's downfall.

 

[scavengerspc]

Great try to match a last generation product when the opposition has moved 1 or 2 jumps ahead of you.

Price again will show the real winner, but AMD has shown they are as good at Nvidia when keeping profit margins high.

My nephew helped me put the AMD GPUs performance in perspective. He has a 3090ti he bought in April of 2022. A friend of his bought a 9700 XT a few months ago. They ran head-to-head in one of their systems, and the 3090 ti is faster than the 9700 XT. Sometimes by a lot.
Someone can be a tech novice such as myself and still know that is just pitiful.

 

[Stoly]

Wait, so you are telling both a 96 CU video card and a stripped down 80 CU console can both meat or even beat the RTX 5080?

Does not compute.

 

[toooooot]

Please, make the design from the top picture. It is beautiful. Even better, it does not have 16pin connector.
RT is going to help AMD a lot. Good to see it working for them.

 

[HardReset]

My nephew helped me put the AMD GPUs performance in perspective. He has a 3090ti he bought in April of 2022. A friend of his bought a 9700 XT a few months ago. They ran head-to-head in one of their systems, and the 3090 ti is faster than the 9700 XT. Sometimes by a lot.
Someone can be a tech novice such as myself and still know that is just pitiful.

3090Ti MSRP: 1999 dollars
9700XT MSRP: 599 dollars

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[Melkor Unlimited]

While I agree with what you said, the 5080 isn't 1500 anymore here. Its down to 1000 + 20% euro tax. ... Palit/GW/MSI are the last sane companies. I wonder when they will start overcharging too...

I am sorry to crash your dreams, but ... Cheapest 5080 I really can buy is $1100. And its .. voilà .. Palit

TL;DR - actual cheapest prices (-VAT and converted to USD)
$1100 aka MSRP +10% for rtx 5080 (Palit)
$810 aka MSRP +8% for rtx 5070Ti (Palit, Gainward)
$695 aka MSRP +17% for (Gigabyte) = 86% of cheapest rtx 5070 Ti
$785 for one of the most expensive Radeon 9070 Ti (XFX Mercury Magnetic OC) is $25 less than cheapest rtx 5070 Ti

PS: I have tested both 5070Ti and 9070XT. Moved them to rigs of my niece and nephew. Do not have any game using RT I am still content with 7900XT (4k) at home and 5500XT (fHD) at cabin in the woods.

 

[Melkor Unlimited]

There’s no fanboy here… just pretty obvious logic. The 6080 WILL be better than the 5080… we don’t know by how much - 10-30% maybe? Doesn’t matter for my statement though… if AMD is targeting 5080, then they’re not making progress on performance… all about the prices to see if they’ll be worth buying.

Not so obvious logic: There is no rtx 6080 to compare with. And wont be in 2026. So you only can compare performance to something whats performance is already known.
If leaker says: "It will compete with 5080.",
it does mean: "It may or may not be better than 5080, but wont be better than 5090."

 

[Melkor Unlimited]

My nephew helped me put the AMD GPUs performance in perspective. He has a 3090ti he bought in April of 2022. A friend of his bought a 9700 XT a few months ago. They ran head-to-head in one of their systems, and the 3090 ti is faster than the 9700 XT. Sometimes by a lot.

Could you tell me in which games it was?
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-9070-xt-nitro/ show no one where 3090Ti was not slower by 5%. Mostly even more.

Someone can be a tech novice such as myself and still know that is just pitiful.

I am not a tech novice.
I just have not forget how to count. Yet.

 

[ScottSoapbox]

Nvidia is using a new node for the 6000 series so the 6080 will easily outperform the 5080 ….

“Trade blows with” tends to mean “wins one benchmark” when AMD compares itself to more expensive Nvidia cards.

Again, all of this is meaningless conjecture until we get actual hardware and a price…

AMD is using a new node too as both are on TMSC.

The 6080 can be whatever Nvidia wants it to be (see 4080 and 5080). They now have their GPUs spread very evenly to encourage upselling to the next level so it is highly likely they do a consistent performance increase across their line to maintain that.

I believe they increased things less recently since AMD announced it was getting out of the high end, which now makes it easier for AMD to get back into the high end. They of course have ample room to increase the 6080 closer to the 6090 - but will they? My guess is they will shoot for beating AMD's 80 by 5% to still claim victory while keeping their halo distance high.

 

[Squid Surprise]

3090Ti MSRP: 1999 dollars
9700XT MSRP: 599 dollars

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But you can get a 3090TI TODAY for about the e same price as you can get the 9070XT… and it’s 3 years older…