Apple releases employee diversity statistics, CEO Cook says numbers not satisfactory

[Geforcepat]

So...They're gonna fire all the white guys? #wellthatsoundsfair

 

[Jack Meoffski]

I went to Tim Cooks BBQ party and for some reason all the hot dogs smelled like poo?

 

[captaincranky]

I went to Tim Cooks BBQ party and for some reason all the hot dogs smelled like poo?

Nah, that must've been Tim. It was the weekend and he probably forgot his apple cologne.

 

[Guest]

I laughed so hard...thx

 

[Guest]

Sometimes I hate CaptainCranky, other times, not so much. Hope articles like this don't effect my job outlook being a straight white male. I wonder what the NAACPs diversity numbers would looks like?

 

[ypsylon]

1% Other... Hmm this must be 'Nuclear' Nadal from Little Wadyia. Ha, ha! His explanation of what Mac genius do is priceless!

 

[stewi0001]

Yet ginger is not a recognized minority.... when will I be noticed!!!

 

[davislane1]

Yet ginger is not a recognized minority.... when will I be noticed!!!

Be silent, you soulless enigma.

 

[captaincranky]

Yet ginger is not a recognized minority.... when will I be noticed!!!

Tell the world you want to marry a same sex ginger. Since you're a "very minor minority", you'll have to coat tail a larger group.

Sometimes I hate CaptainCranky, other times, not so much. Hope articles like this don't effect my job outlook being a straight white male. I wonder what the NAACPs diversity numbers would looks like?

Being a "straight white male", you don't really have a job outlook.....

The NAACP really, you have to ask? If a work force is not entirely comprised of African Americans, you're discriminating.

 

[p51d007]

So, once again, political correctness will end up killing another company?
Instead of employing the best & brightest, they will settle for "second best" just to
make their company more diverse?

 

[captaincranky]

So, once again, political correctness will end up killing another company?
Instead of employing the best & brightest, they will settle for "second best" just to
make their company more diverse?

It's Apple, who cares?

It's my contention the company is over 50% Chinese anyway, since Foxconn manufactures a good portion of their product.

I think Foxconn should release their, "diversity statistics" right along with Apple.

Tim Cook is like any other CEO, just talking a bunch of duplicitous, self serving, bull sh!t.

 

[Bob Forsberg]

..."Cook says numbers not satisfactory"....Forget the numbers, its working. Leave it alone.

 

[captaincranky]

..."Cook says numbers not satisfactory"....Forget the numbers, its working. Leave it alone.

I still think Cook should either step down, and give his job to an African American lesbian, or simply shut up.

 

[ET3D]

Ethnocentrism isn't a "real problem" and forcing diversity on people to correct it does not solve the conflicts that arise from in-group selection, it makes them worse.

Do you have proof it makes them worse?

I tried googling the issue, but most articles I read, especially negative, seem to be pure speculation. Here's an article I found that does mention research, and suggests that diversity is beneficial.

If you have any research which shows that diversity hurts, feel free to post.

 

[ET3D]

Ethnocentrism isn't a "real problem" and forcing diversity on people to correct it does not solve the conflicts that arise from in-group selection, it makes them worse.

Do you have proof it makes them worse?

I tried googling the issue, but most articles I read, especially negative, seem to be pure speculation. Here's an article I found that does mention research, and suggests that diversity is beneficial.

If you have any research which shows that diversity hurts, feel free to post.

 

[dividebyzero]

Do you have proof it makes them worse?
I tried googling the issue, but most articles I read, especially negative, seem to be pure speculation. Here's an article I found that does mention research, and suggests that diversity is beneficial.
If you have any research which shows that diversity hurts, feel free to post.

I think the point davislane1 is making (apologies if I'm in error) is that forced diversity can be counterproductive. Any system that awards position based on anything other than merit can bring with it any number of biases.
My quick Google since my own experience is obviously anecdotal

 

[captaincranky]

Hey everybody, enough of this silliness! Let's all go to the thread where we can see the leaked photos of of the Samsung phone sales box. Now that's really worthwhile ! :https://www.techspot.com/community/topics/images-of-a-samsung-galaxy-note-4-and-its-box-leak.204401/

It's a shame they didn't leak photos of the inner packing materials.

But then again had they done so, I might be blind by now from giving myself "techgasms".

You can do it too! Just close your eyes and pretend you're pulling the phone out of its box. Then you're putting it back in the box. In the box, out of the box, in out, in out, aaaahhh

...[ ]...If you have any research which shows that diversity hurts, feel free to post.

And you sir, should feel free to post the same post as many times as your heart tells you you must.

@dividebyzero, BTW, do have a copy of the STNG video that says, "bad pun" on the ball?

 

[davislane1]

Do you have proof it makes them worse?

I tried googling the issue, but most articles I read, especially negative, seem to be pure speculation. Here's an article I found that does mention research, and suggests that diversity is beneficial.

If you have any research which shows that diversity hurts, feel free to post.

You aren't going to find much on Google. Unless you have access to something like JSTOR or other databases, you will only get nonsense on "managing" diversity or, if you are a little more adventurous, blogs detailing either the unmitigated virtue or evil of the whole thing.

My theory is based on history and documented group behavior patterns. In humans, different groups have different identities and cultures. When these groups are forced to compete with one another for the same resources, conflict necessarily emerges. This is one of the reasons humans self-segregate into different nations, social classes, and so on. Simply put, two groups cannot play the same game when they have different views on what the rules should be.

If you're interested in studying the data that leads to this conclusion, Amazon has plenty of books that discuss the issue either directly or through the lens of nationalism. Alternatively, if you have a history book on hand, simply turn to a chapter of your choosing and note the correlation between diversity and conflict.

I think the point davislane1 is making (apologies if I'm in error) is that forced diversity can be counterproductive. Any system that awards position based on anything other than merit can bring with it any number of biases.
My quick Google since my own experience is obviously anecdotal

No, I'm saying that forcing the issue is counterproductive. Diversity is a fundamentally unworkable system. Real differences exist between races, ethnicities, social classes, and genders. These differences span all the way from genetics to culture and philosophy. Consequently, the more diverse a population is, the more it is prone to conflict. The only instances where diversity is workable are when that diversity is, from a practical standpoint, illusory. That is, when the differences between two parties are insignificant in comparison to their similarities.

Forced diversity merely adds fuel to the fire. Instead of allowing people to associate freely with one another, it forces them to accept members into their group that do not qualitatively or quantitatively belong there. This not only fails to integrate out-group members, it magnifies the animosity directed to them by the in-group. That animosity is then felt and (usually) reciprocated by the out-member, making them even more unpleasant to the in-group. Once the feedback loop is established, it continues until someone throws a punch. For instance, imagine if there were a new mandate requiring each NBA team to play a midget (a quantitative mismatch) for at least 15 minutes per game, in the playoffs, because equality. There would be riots.

 

[dividebyzero]

For instance, imagine if there were a new mandate requiring each NBA team to play a midget (a quantitative mismatch) for at least 15 minutes per game, in the playoffs, because equality. There would be riots.

I think the riots would only eventuate if the midget was from the WNBA (and an African American lesbian of course), otherwise it would be an ideal opportunity for stat padding. There is already precedent in American sports since I believe the Jacksonville Jaguars actively target draft recruitment of special needs and the coordinately challenged...although I suspect the possibility of a riot is precluded by the lack of "crowd" attendance in their particular case.

 

[captaincranky]

I think you should all take a deep breath, and ponder the case of Michael Sam, the first openly gay player in the NFL: http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2014/st...chael-sam-drafted-st-louis-rams-seventh-round

As the press would have us believe, this was a bold move on Sam's part, since it "might affect" his eligibility, rendering him, "damaged goods", and short circuiting his NFL career .

Of course he still would have had opportunities to play some kind of football, either in New Zealand or Canada....

The truth behind the truth is this, Sam's, "coming out party", rendered the NFL "neutered" not to draft him. As soon as the league passed on this, "golden opportunity", to show the liberal and diverse side of their organization, the public furor, (led by gay rights factions), would have been deafening.

So, Mr. Sam's statement of his sexuality, tacitly made it impossible for the NFL to NOT draft him. That's my take on it, and I'm sticking to it.

 

[dividebyzero]

Of course he still would have had opportunities to play some kind of football, either in New Zealand or Canada....

Unlikely. Our balls are bigger.

Probably too much of a culture shock in any case...

 

[davislane1]

Unlikely. Our balls are bigger.

Where's your sense of equality? He's gay, not stunted. Surely he can handle something a little bigger!

 

[captaincranky]

Unlikely. Our balls are bigger.

Indeed they are!

Which leaves us here in the US overcompensating....

 

[rwjohn]

I would absolutely love for any of the people posting comments to produce evidence of rampant anti-white discrimination in the tech industry. Or any other industry for that matter.

 

[captaincranky]

I would absolutely love for any of the people posting comments to produce evidence of rampant anti-white discrimination in the tech industry. Or any other industry for that matter.

Did you ever hear the term, "affirmative action"?