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Apple tracks your location in iOS 4, without your permission

By Emil ยท 41 replies
Apr 20, 2011
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  1. Researchers Pete Warden and Alasdair Allan have discovered that iPhones and 3G iPads regularly record your position into a hidden file called consolidated.db. Ever since you upgraded to iOS 4, your device has been storing a long list of latitude-longitude coordinates and timestamps. The coordinates aren't always exact, but there are typically tens of thousands of data points. The location is likely being determined by cell-tower triangulation, either triggered by traveling between cells or activity on the device itself. Furthermore, all this data is being stored across backups, and even devic...

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  2. Did anyone expect anything less from this dirty company?
  3. Can't wait to hear how people try and spin this one. I read the same thing over there at MacRumors and you would think apple was doing you a favor by reading their comments.
  4. So, they'll know that I've spent 90 percent (or more) of my time at work and at home? And that I like the Chinese food restaurant down the street?

    NOOOOOOOOOOO! Make it stop!!
  5. gwailo247

    gwailo247 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,007   +18

    Not quite as funny if your wife's/girlfriend's/mother's iPhone gets stolen from her on the street and the people know exactly where she lives or works. Its easy to change your number, not quite so easy to move or change jobs. Cause its not as if women haven't been stalked without the benefit of an electronic log of their whereabouts since they bought their phone.

    Its one thing having the data on the company servers, its another to be freely accessible by anyone who picks up your phone.

    And considering this data is also stored on devices which have never been activated by a cell carrier, just using wi-fi, makes it even worse.

    So when you get stopped by a cop and he asks to search your car, do you fall for the "if you have nothing to hide, let me search your car" argument? Probably not. If someone you don't like it does it, its a rape of your civil rights. If your bearded demi-god does it, its a "feature".
  6. aj_the_kidd

    aj_the_kidd TS Rookie Posts: 555

    Ah, iSheep always good for a laugh
  7. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 11,989   +76

    I like this!
  8. Gars

    Gars TS Booster Posts: 240

    its oblivious
    iSheeps sre all around
    just pickup1
    just ask for the USB port
    ..its not that funny
  9. jink

    jink TS Rookie Posts: 23

    Just because your paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you!
  10. Welcome to 1984....

    .....George Orwell.
  11. tonylukac

    tonylukac TS Evangelist Posts: 1,376   +72

    Sort of like any gps device.
  12. jink

    jink TS Rookie Posts: 23

    fear is the mind killer

  13. mosu

    mosu TS Evangelist Posts: 505   +121

    Thank you, guys don't tell my wife! Seriously, on a GPS device you can freely delete tracks. I wonder where is all that data sent...
  14. Honestly don't care. I go to work/school most of the day, and I'm pretty sure I have a much higher probably of being attacked on the street just to steal my stuff then someone casually taking my phone just to run home, hook it up to a computer, find the file in question, interpret my coordinates from latitude and longitude, put together a common route/time I'm at any given place so they can THEN go find me and attack me.

    People get so paranoid about something that has the POSSIBILITY of happening even though it's not a very logical thing to ever happen.
  15. not "without your permission". if you read the terms of service before clicking agree (as if anyone does) you would see that you ARE giving your permission. so nyah.
  16. I am sure that Apple has already patented this "feature" so nobody else can use it.
  17. Apple = evil
  18. Actually, I think people would be surprised to know that almost ALL cell companies are sending their positional data to companies that produce traffic flow information. The "consent" to transmit this data freely is buried very deeply in the EULAs and contracts. The information is supposedly scrubbed but could very easily be tied to a particular mobile device. These are known in the traffic world as "probes". There are also devices that are stationary at the sides of roads and embedded in the roadways that measure traffic flow. These are referred to as "sensors".
  19. it has to go. has no legitmate legal purpose
  20. I have found that there people who I dont know see and watch me in the street and I dont even carry a phone , magic
  21. I see the Fan Boi Brigade is out in force.

    God forbid that someone wants to have privacy, I guess.

    Glad I got a Xoom!
  22. i wonder if they have figured out how to snap photos with my camera app without me knowing...i probably agreed to that to when i clicked "agree to terms and conditions"..damn they got me.
  23. Know what? My iPhone also holds a log of my phone calls. It has a list of all of my contacts and their personal information including phone numbers, physical, and email addresses. And it knows my appointment schedule for the next three months. I don't care that it records its location because that information isn't shared with anyone. Apple's business model doesn't revolve on following people's behavior. There is one company to watch whose entire business model is based on understanding your behavior--Google. They scare me more.
  24. Sound's about right--------- The Apple is rotten , again. (again, again).
  25. my phone went to las vegas without me... lol

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