At least 100 million PCs still run Windows 7, one year after support ended

ClintL

Posts: 10   +24
I love how people say windows ten is quicker,yet I haven't seen any proof when comparing on my own PC.
When ever I've done a few benchmarks,from running a few games benchmarks to apps that test ram and cpu,the difference is so small you couldn't feel it.
I've run a start up test that shows 7 to be quicker than 10 and,10 and 8,1 on par with each other.

Just had a week of installing 10 and now 8,1 and of the benchmarks I ran there was only a couple percentage points between them,all on my PC,the only difference are the drivers.

I can't run 7 now because the bios that support the new Ryzen cpu's don't seem to work but 8,1 and newer works.
The only downside of 8,1 is that I can't run Cyberpunk because CDPR hasn't heard of vulkan,fortunately I have already put in 90hrs into the game and can wait till the next time I think 10 has improved.
 
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meric

Posts: 300   +290
I'm always amused at all the Win 10 haters that come out every time some article about Win 10 comes out. I'm a Sys Admin at a major university and we have had all our computers running Win 10 for years. It is significantly more stable and quicker than Win 7.

From my experience, the only people that have issues with Win 10 are the people that refuse to use win 10 as intended and spends tons of time trying to twist and manipulate it into being like Win 7 instead of just taking the time to learn the new way of doing things - in other words, just shooting themselves in the foot over and over again. Just spend a little time and learn the new way of doing things in Win 10, and before you know it you'll find that it isn't so bad. Now, am I saying Win 10 is perfect.... of course not. There are some things that I miss in Win 7, but overall Win 10 is a big improvement. Move on and you'll be happier in the long run.
Until a couple of months ago I'd agree you 100%, I still like win 10 more than 7 but I realised windows update may cause lock ups/crashes sometimes. The last time my system gave me a black screen (during a gaming session), I reset and the next boot to desktop I saw a new windows "feature" which is about video meeting. I checked some logs and yes it was windows update installing stuff during my gaming. This occurred to me many times. MS's update policy needs to change, most users don't like this. We have the right to know and control what's running in the background. Telemetry stuff is another issue. I cleaned up that garbage though.
 

Squid Surprise

Posts: 3,721   +2,671
Until a couple of months ago I'd agree you 100%, I still like win 10 more than 7 but I realised windows update may cause lock ups/crashes sometimes. The last time my system gave me a black screen (during a gaming session), I reset and the next boot to desktop I saw a new windows "feature" which is about video meeting. I checked some logs and yes it was windows update installing stuff during my gaming. This occurred to me many times. MS's update policy needs to change, most users don't like this. We have the right to know and control what's running in the background. Telemetry stuff is another issue. I cleaned up that garbage though.
You know you can schedule them, right? Google is your friend...
 

Steve Lalancette

Posts: 10   +6
I wonder how much of that hate was due to what people heard/thought about the Start Menu.
Personally I use Start10 to replace the start menu, but overall W10 hasn't crashed on me once and it does what I need it to do. It desperately needs a UI overhaul though.
You are one of the luckiest, I'll say...
Windows 10 is a nightmare for many people around me and way much more than Windows 7.
In fact, I made more money on repairing Windows 10 than Vista/7 combined.
 
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PEnnn

Posts: 516   +476
I wonder how many of those people who are having wet dreams about Windows 7 now, complained as vehemently when they had to give up their Windows XP, 2000 or W95!!

 

Bullwinkle M

Posts: 420   +313
I wonder how many of those people who are having wet dreams about Windows 7 now, complained as vehemently when they had to give up their Windows XP, 2000 or W95!!
Hahahahhahaaaha

I'm using Windows XP Online TODAY!

Nobody "HAD TO" give up anything

It is COMPLETELY safe to use and stable when used by a real security expert like myself

(Not you however)
 
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Neatfeatguy

Posts: 126   +140
I'm always amused at all the Win 10 haters that come out every time some article about Win 10 comes out. I'm a Sys Admin at a major university and we have had all our computers running Win 10 for years. It is significantly more stable and quicker than Win 7.

From my experience, the only people that have issues with Win 10 are the people that refuse to use win 10 as intended and spends tons of time trying to twist and manipulate it into being like Win 7 instead of just taking the time to learn the new way of doing things - in other words, just shooting themselves in the foot over and over again. Just spend a little time and learn the new way of doing things in Win 10, and before you know it you'll find that it isn't so bad. Now, am I saying Win 10 is perfect.... of course not. There are some things that I miss in Win 7, but overall Win 10 is a big improvement. Move on and you'll be happier in the long run.
Nothing better than having Windows 10 installed and only using it for storage of pictures/videos and running Plex (it can be used for gaming, but no games or digital platform software is on it...just currently used for Plex), to find out Plex is offline because Windows 10 ran some horseshit forced update that broke Windows so bad it couldn't be repaired or even start in Safe Mode.
The first time this happened - irritating. Format, re-install, copy over backed up data.
The second time this happened - just another SNAFU from Microfailure. Format, re-install, copy over backed up data.
The third time this happened - I have nothing but hatred for Microsoft and the shitsoftware that Windows 10 is.
I've had to re-install video and audio drivers for my mom's work laptop multiple times after forced updates - not hard to deal with, just outright irritating.
I've had to format and re-install Windows 10 on my daughter's laptop because Windows constantly failed updating. Tried a bunch of suggestions off forums for similar issues, but nothing worked. Just decided to wipe and do a clean install.

At work some unnecessary "security" update broke the print spooler service. I couldn't print to anything and at the time the worthless IT guy was on "vacation" and he wouldn't give me the admin password to uninstall the ONLY update that was forced on my computer that broke printing. I couldn't do 80% of my work for 3 days. Once the IT guy returned he refused to believe that the update broke my printing and that I was wrong......after he spent 6 hours f'ing around on my computer to get no results, he finally uninstalled the update and my printers started working again. To top it off, the IT guy didn't know how to prevent that update from coming through and re-installing every day on my system. I had to find a way to stop the update and show him how to use the work around....

Forced update crap that breaks Windows 10 is a joke. I never had issues in any other version of Windows I used with any kind of frequency from running updates. In a nutshell, Windows 10 outright blows.
 
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hahahanoobs

Posts: 3,138   +1,308
Until a couple of months ago I'd agree you 100%, I still like win 10 more than 7 but I realised windows update may cause lock ups/crashes sometimes. The last time my system gave me a black screen (during a gaming session), I reset and the next boot to desktop I saw a new windows "feature" which is about video meeting. I checked some logs and yes it was windows update installing stuff during my gaming. This occurred to me many times. MS's update policy needs to change, most users don't like this. We have the right to know and control what's running in the background. Telemetry stuff is another issue. I cleaned up that garbage though.
"Until a couple of months ago" is a very good record considering how long W10 has been out.
 

Squid Surprise

Posts: 3,721   +2,671
Hahahahhahaaaha

I'm using Windows XP Online TODAY!

Nobody "HAD TO" give up anything

It is COMPLETELY safe to use and stable when used by a real security expert like myself

(Not you however)
Called it :)
I’m waiting for the troll who runs Win XP to make an appearance.... but really? Windows 10 is the only option (assuming you are running Windows).

Get your heads out of the sand and update - or be prepared to see your computer become one with the bot nets....
 
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Bullwinkle M

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Called it :)
Malware cannot infect or destroy my online XP box or any data on it

It has remained malware free since 2014 and it hasn't had a bluescreen of death for more than 12 years now (because I'm an expert and you are not!)

These are facts!

Get used to them
 
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jpuroila

Posts: 267   +147
I'm always amused at all the Win 10 haters that come out every time some article about Win 10 comes out. I'm a Sys Admin at a major university and we have had all our computers running Win 10 for years. It is significantly more stable and quicker than Win 7.

From my experience, the only people that have issues with Win 10 are the people that refuse to use win 10 as intended and spends tons of time trying to twist and manipulate it into being like Win 7 instead of just taking the time to learn the new way of doing things - in other words, just shooting themselves in the foot over and over again. Just spend a little time and learn the new way of doing things in Win 10, and before you know it you'll find that it isn't so bad. Now, am I saying Win 10 is perfect.... of course not. There are some things that I miss in Win 7, but overall Win 10 is a big improvement. Move on and you'll be happier in the long run.
Maybe people wouldn't hate Windows 10 if it wasn't malware suite disguised as an operating system.
 

amghwk

Posts: 926   +800
I actually kicked out Win10 from all of my systems, keeping Windows 7 in it's own partition for compatibility sake with some programs and games, and moved all of my systems to Linux.

And now each of my systems has different "flavour" of Linux installed as the main "connected" OS, from Arch to OpenSUSE and Mint.
 
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captaincranky

Posts: 16,306   +5,096
Of course they wouldn't go bankrupt if they gave some things away..... So that means that they should give stuff away that they worked hard on, just because they can?!?
The loss of Windows Media Center is more of a concern. While M$ says, "very people were using it", hence its removal, I tend to think more people would be using it, due to the proliferation of HTPCs. The program guide is still available, however, is involves a $25.00 a year subscription. (After market, not M$)

That statement is possibly mitigated by the fact that people seem to have disposable income available for Xfinity, Netflix, and so forth. But with WMC, you had a great DVR at your disposal for free OTA TV. (Which BTW, contains no DRM. Although M$ uses a non standard recording format).

The whole situation has me wondering whether or not, I should re-rip all my CDs in lossless FLAC, instead of relying on WMA lossless.

One has to assume it cost M$ money to maintain their program guide. So, what you have now is a Windows version that costs more, and gives you less. Windows 7 Home OEM was typically available for $90.00. The lowest price I have seen for Win 10 OEM Home recently, is $100.00.

So, spare me the lecture, and go pay more for less. As they say, "put your money where your mouth is".
 
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candle_86

Posts: 631   +548
8 is a disasater, 10 takes way too much memory. 7 is still better.
10 has the smallest footprint out of any of the modern Windows OS's. It's also faster on the same hardware than Windows 7. This has been tested ad nauseam in his remained true.
 

thelatestmodel

Posts: 186   +121
Hahahahhahaaaha

I'm using Windows XP Online TODAY!

Nobody "HAD TO" give up anything

It is COMPLETELY safe to use and stable when used by a real security expert like myself

(Not you however)
Oh look who's back

Please tell us, what exactly are your security qualifications?
 

Bullwinkle M

Posts: 420   +313
Oh look who's back

Please tell us, what exactly are your security qualifications?
You already know my qualifications!

I can stop all malware and ransomware from wrecking my Windows XP box

I have been doing so for the past 7 years "ONLINE" without a single problem

I can do it without any Microsoft security updates while running a full admin account online

That's all the qualifications I need

and you?

You cannot secure a fully updated copy of Windows 10 because Microsoft won't let you
 

MasterFig

Posts: 9   +10
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The loss of Windows Media Center is more of a concern. While M$ says, "very people were using it", hence its removal, I tend to think more people would be using it, due to the proliferation of HTPCs. The program guide is still available, however, is involves a $25.00 a year subscription. (After market, not M$)

That statement is possibly mitigated by the fact that people seem to have disposable income available for Xfinity, Netflix, and so forth. But with WMC, you had a great DVR at your disposal for free OTA TV. (Which BTW, contains no DRM. Although M$ uses a non standard recording format).

The whole situation has me wondering whether or not, I should re-rip all my CDs in lossless FLAC, instead of relying on WMA lossless.

One has to assume it cost M$ money to maintain their program guide. So, what you have now is a Windows version that costs more, and gives you less. Windows 7 Home OEM was typically available for $90.00. The lowest price I have seen for Win 10 OEM Home recently, is $100.00.

So, spare me the lecture, and go pay more for less. As they say, "put your money where your mouth is".
Why would you rip audio to anything except flac? Flac is an open standard that should enjoy long lasting support.

As for the cost difference between Win 7 vs Win 10.... Let me introduce you to a new word..... "inflation", which if you adjust for, Win 10 is cheaper. Also, if you had not resisted the move to Win 10 back when it was released, it would have been free. So having to pay for it to put on an existing computer is your dam fault (sorry)!