Boot up, VPN, multi-password logins, and zero pay: Bank of America hit with wage lawsuit

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First look: For years, hundreds of remote hourly workers at Bank of America may have spent up to 30 minutes each day booting up and logging into the bank's complex computer systems before their paid shifts officially began. Now, a class action lawsuit filed in federal court alleges that the bank systematically failed to compensate these employees for that time, despite federal labor guidance that clearly states such activities should be paid.

The lawsuit centers on the experiences of Tava Martin, a former business analyst who worked both remotely and at the bank's Jacksonville facility. According to court documents, Martin and her colleagues were required to perform a series of technical steps before they could begin their workday.

These included turning on their computers, waiting for Windows to load, requesting a security token for the company's VPN, logging into the network, opening multiple web applications with separate passwords, and downloading the necessary Excel files for the day's tasks. Only after all these steps were completed could employees start taking calls from business customers about regulatory reporting requirements.

The process was not quick. Employees routinely spent 15 to 30 minutes each morning just getting their systems running. When technical problems arose, the time could stretch even longer. The bank enforced a strict "phone ready" policy, requiring employees to be prepared to handle calls the moment their scheduled shifts began. Anyone who clocked in but wasn't immediately available to take or make calls risked poor performance scores and possible disciplinary action, including termination.

Despite the time spent on these pre-shift activities, the lawsuit claims that Bank of America discouraged workers from reporting any time outside their scheduled hours. Martin's paystubs consistently showed exactly 40 hours per week, or exactly 32 hours when she missed a day, suggesting the bank paid for scheduled time rather than actual work performed.

The unpaid work didn't end with the morning setup. During unpaid lunch breaks, many systems would automatically disconnect, forcing employees to repeat portions of the login process – adding another three to five minutes of uncompensated time on most days, sometimes longer if a complete reboot was required. After shifts ended, workers had to log out of all programs and shut down their computers securely, adding an extra 2 to 3 minutes.

Martin, who earned $46.17 per hour through a third-party staffing agency, regularly worked full-time hours. The lawsuit argues that the uncompensated startup and shutdown time should have been paid at the overtime rate of 1.5 times her regular wage.

For the week of March 11 through March 17, 2024, Martin was paid for 40 regular hours but no overtime. With unpaid pre-shift, meal-period, and post-shift time of at least 20 minutes per shift over five shifts, she should have received an additional 100 minutes at her overtime rate of $69.25 per hour. Similar calculations apply to other pay periods cited in the complaint.

The lawsuit points to 2008 guidance from the Department of Labor that specifically addresses call centers under the Fair Labor Standards Act. That guidance explicitly states that an example of the first principal activity of the day for call center workers includes starting computers to download work instructions and applications. It also requires employers to keep daily or weekly records of all hours worked, including time spent in pre-shift and post-shift activities.

The filing suggests Bank of America either didn't bother to determine whether the computer time was compensable or knew it was but failed to pay for it anyway. The lawsuit notes the company has faced factually similar cases from other employees about time spent loading and logging into computer systems.

Martin seeks to represent all current and former remote hourly business analysts who worked for the bank during the three years before conditional certification through judgment. She estimates the group includes hundreds, if not thousands, of workers who performed essentially the same tasks using the same or similar computer programs under the same timekeeping policies.

The case remains in early stages, with no court ruling yet on whether it will proceed as a class action or on the merits of the allegations.

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The sad state of the world we live in today.

Perhaps, but it also goes to show how many spineless worker drones exist. I simply won't work anywhere that tries to pull this nonsense. If people accept it, which many do, these actions will continue.

Sure someone will argue that people don't have a choice. This is objectively false and a completely cowardly take that is the same as "we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas". Job market might not be great right now, but it isn't always bad and someone is always hiring. There's zero excuse for anyone to accept unpaid working time unless you're a doormat that enjoys being pushed around and stomped on.
 
I work remotely and on average it takes about 5 minutes often less to be VPN ready although my job demands we log in before anything. Also pays for IT issues down time. 30 minutes seems a bit high for averagereadiness. The other day I was updating windows for 45 minutes on the clock this was a 1 off situation. Workers should definitely be paid for that imo.
 
Perhaps, but it also goes to show how many spineless worker drones exist. I simply won't work anywhere that tries to pull this nonsense. If people accept it, which many do, these actions will continue.

Sure someone will argue that people don't have a choice. This is objectively false and a completely cowardly take that is the same as "we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas". Job market might not be great right now, but it isn't always bad and someone is always hiring. There's zero excuse for anyone to accept unpaid working time unless you're a doormat that enjoys being pushed around and stomped on.

How far would you go? These a remote workers. What about people that need to travel to work should the company not pay for your time to get to work as well? How about paying for time you need to wake up and get ready for work?

Something need to change to treat everyone fairly.
 
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The sad state of the world we live in today.
Commenting that the state of the modern world is “sad” on a story about a woman holding a bank legally accountable for fair pay is peak irony.

We’re living in the fairest, safest, most opportunity-rich era in history, as a matter of documented fact.

Moral of the story: stay in school. Feelings aren’t facts.
 
How far would you go? These a remote workers. What about people that need to travel to work should the company not pay for your time to get to work as well? How about paying for time you need to wake up and get ready for work?

Something need to change to treat everyone fairly.
Some companies do pay for travel time ( not wage but miles and tolls. ) Some jobs probably have that baked into the position to offset the time traveling. As a employee you have to see if the cost of travel is worth it vs having something more local. 2 years ago My stored closed in NY and I ended up finding a shortage in deeper Connecticut witha sign on bonus and higher hourly rate. They didn't pay for travel but the travel in my experience was worth it short term.
 
How far would you go? These a remote workers. What about people that need to travel to work should the company not pay for your time to get to work as well? How about paying for time you need to wake up and get ready for work?

Something need to change to treat everyone fairly.
If employers require you travel for work to alternative locations that are not your already agreed upon work location, this is already legally required to be compensated for hourly employees.

Normal commutes are not directly compensated but are factored into whether you accept the job or not. You already can negotiate in how much you need to get paid to show up to the office. If you don't find it enough, then don't show up and work somewhere else. It's factored in.

Very little can or will change so long as doormat employees exist. I suspect there is a very strong correlation between those who roll over and take it with those who also complain about being unable to find higher paying jobs.
 
I mean having my computer booted sounds like a pretty good deal compared to a commute and for me is about as basic as getting dressed, which is also a work requirement but generally done before you arrive. It's also literally just seconds as I hit the power button well prior while doing other things, I'm not sitting there waiting for it.

I agree though that going through company-specific hoops to access and retrieve work files sounds like a on-the-clock company-is-responsible-for-this-process issue to me.

 
OMG ... did they really made remote workers log in for free ???????

That's a third world level of exploitation. The Chinese slaves that had to be safeguarded with nets to prevent them from jumping off the windows seem privileged compared to BoA logon casualties.
 
This is where the line between “commuting” and “working” gets blurry. Spending five minutes logging in is just part of getting ready, but when it’s 25 or 30 minutes every day because the company’s VPN crawls and every app needs a new password, that’s real time lost.

In the office, you could boot up while grabbing coffee or chatting, but remote work makes those delays obvious — and unpaid. If a company’s security setup is that messy, that’s on them, not the workers.
 
Perhaps, but it also goes to show how many spineless worker drones exist. I simply won't work anywhere that tries to pull this nonsense. If people accept it, which many do, these actions will continue.

Sure someone will argue that people don't have a choice. This is objectively false and a completely cowardly take that is the same as "we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas". Job market might not be great right now, but it isn't always bad and someone is always hiring. There's zero excuse for anyone to accept unpaid working time unless you're a doormat that enjoys being pushed around and stomped on.
I'm sorry, but this is a really dumb way to rationalize things. It's like saying, if you're being sexually harassed at work then you need to quit and find another job, and if you let it go on because "you have no choice" then it's your fault.

Many people will take jobs with abusive and unfair employers because they're desperate and need the money. If you start complaining and make demands, as you're suggesting, guess what will happen? They move on to the next person. It's easy to say things like "everyone should demand to be treated with respect at all times", but reality is very different.
 
Commenting that the state of the modern world is “sad” on a story about a woman holding a bank legally accountable for fair pay is peak irony.

We’re living in the fairest, safest, most opportunity-rich era in history, as a matter of documented fact.

Moral of the story: stay in school. Feelings aren’t facts.
Yeah, this is how most Americans think and feel now. Everything is horrible, everyone is keeping the little guy down, everyone is out to get you or screw you over, things will never get better only worse, racism and sexism are rampant everywhere, etc. I don't know what the deal is, but many Americans got in their head this idea that we've made no progress in the last 100 years and things are only getting worse. It's ridiculous.
 
Yeah, this is how most Americans think and feel now. Everything is horrible, everyone is keeping the little guy down, everyone is out to get you or screw you over, things will never get better only worse, racism and sexism are rampant everywhere, etc. I don't know what the deal is, but many Americans got in their head this idea that we've made no progress in the last 100 years and things are only getting worse. It's ridiculous.
It’s called victim mentality. It comes from modern politicians looking to appeal to people by pointing the finger at someone else for all your problems, especially when situations are already fair.
 
Damn, when does this greed stop. On unrelated note, does anyone remember free Chase and Boa checking accounts? You did not need to pay anything, no bullshit rules, no minimal deposit.
I remember how greedy **** at chase charged 10 bucks from mine.
Pathetic parasites.
 
I don't know what the deal is, but many Americans got in their head this idea that we've made no progress in the last 100 years and things are only getting worse. It's ridiculous.
Its not "idea".
Statistics show facts.

And what the facts say is ... the real income of most Americans does not rise and in many cases is lower than in sixties.
Do not look for CEO beneficts. Check average income and even better the median.
Then count the inflation in.
 
Not only that but around the world the gap between rich and poor have become much wider.
This isn't indicative of anything though other than that all modern economies have inflation goals. The delta between zero and a lot will always get larger as inflation occurs. It's not a flaw unless you don't understand math.
 
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