Call of Duty cheaters face being permabanned from every current and future game in the...

midian182

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A hot potato: Nobody likes cheaters, and few people will object to them being permabanned from a game, but is banning someone from every previous, current, and future title in a franchise excessive? For Call of Duty cheats, this is the scenario they may be facing.

In a post titled Ricochet Anti-Cheat Progress Report, CoD’s anti-cheat department, Team Ricochet, reveals some updates to its anti-cheating policies in the recently released CoD: Vanguard, including some pretty controversial changes.

One of the biggest surprises is that persistent cheaters who get permanently banned from Vanguard face being permabanned from the entire Call of Duty Series. That doesn’t just include the 20+ CoD games released to date (where applicable), but also all future titles. “Permanent suspensions for security infractions may now apply franchise wide, including Call of Duty: Vanguard as well as any past, present, and future titles in the Call of Duty franchise,” it reads.

There will be ways for cheaters to circumvent such bans, of course, though the post adds that “any attempt to hide, disguise, or obfuscate your identity or the identity of your hardware devices may also result in a permanent suspension.” Ultimately, it shows the extremes Activision is willing to go to fight the cheating problem plaguing so many games.

Additionally, the contentious kernel-level element of Ricochet is coming to Call of Duty: Warzone, arriving with the Pacific update that launches in December. It will come to Vanguard at a later date.

While kernel-level driver-based anti-cheat systems are becoming increasingly common, found in games such as Valorant, Watch Dogs: Legion, Apex Legends, and many more, the potential security risks and impact on system performance they present are a concern for many gamers.

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Pastuch

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Did they ever bring back private servers? Let the mods take care of it, that's what we did

You can't have private Battleroyale servers... it would never work. BR replaced traditional mp shooters. Check out BF2042 in a month, it'll be dead. We need kernel level anticheat and SBMM otherwise no life 2000 hour Warzone addicts like me will just slaughter all the noobs.

Oh and lifetime bans sound great!
 
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Zinixo

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While I dont play these games ,bans across all games[in the company] for cheating on one game is like amputating a arm because you got a hang nail.
Shitty response from a shitty company who makes shitty software.
Save your money and boycott bliz/acti
 

hahahanoobs

Posts: 4,675   +2,654
Do I think a lifetime ban is too much for immature kids and "adults" ruining my game while they giggle like school girls?

Take a guess.
 

Raytrace3D

Posts: 357   +433
Cheating is a cancer and cancer needs to be systemically removed. People who cheat, are likely to cheat in other games too. The publishers (not developers) should keep a list of cheaters and ban them from future games automatically too. No safe harbors for cheaters.
 

BadThad

Posts: 1,223   +1,490
Ban cheaters FOREVER! If I could find one, it would be the end for them. They have ruined EVERY game I've ever played online. They are criminals no different from any other.
 

Pastuch

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I'll take that credible source from you when you're ready. Take your time.
It's largely a question of popularity. I'll acknowledge that games like CS and even Halo Infinite will likely stay popular and successful but the market for Battle royales is obscenely large. Between Apex, Fortnite and Warzone there's at least half a billion daily gamers. The demand for new BRs is insane too, even small scale rumors that a Halo BR is coming generate more clicks and views than the multiplayer launch did.

Nickmercs has been playing and streaming Vanguard for the last month, yesterday he polled his audience on youtube, the question was "Will you keep playing Vanguard when the new Warzone map comes out in 18 days?". 80% of the people said no.

Battlefield 2042 is a great example of a game that completely missed the mark. Other than portal, it's a poorly designed game and the lack of a Free to play battle royale will severely limit sales. I say this as a 40 year old life long Battlefield fan.
 

hahahanoobs

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It's largely a question of popularity. I'll acknowledge that games like CS and even Halo Infinite will likely stay popular and successful but the market for Battle royales is obscenely large. Between Apex, Fortnite and Warzone there's at least half a billion daily gamers. The demand for new BRs is insane too, even small scale rumors that a Halo BR is coming generate more clicks and views than the multiplayer launch did.

Nickmercs has been playing and streaming Vanguard for the last month, yesterday he polled his audience on youtube, the question was "Will you keep playing Vanguard when the new Warzone map comes out in 18 days?". 80% of the people said no.

Battlefield 2042 is a great example of a game that completely missed the mark. Other than portal, it's a poorly designed game and the lack of a Free to play battle royale will severely limit sales. I say this as a 40 year old life long Battlefield fan.
So you got nothing.
Apex, Fortnite and Warzone. That's 3 games that have been out for very long time. 3 games people have left and gone back to and also left and didn't go back. Look at Minecraft and Roblox? Do they have BR's? No. Because not every game has to be a freaking BR to be crazy successful. BF2042 just has to fix the numerous issues people have with the EXISTING game. Same with Halo.

A video about BR streamers hyped after playing BF2042 and Halo (and other news):

Warzone streamers playing Halo:

MP is safe:

If anything, the genre needs BF and Halo, not the other way around. The genre is stale.
 
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Pastuch

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I said BR replaced MP fps... not Minecraft or Xcom. Want stats, sales for COD are down every year since Warzone release while it makes record breaking profits. COD CDL is dead according to scump and everyone else because Warzone tourneys killed competitive COD.

I'm playing halo too, the problem with it and every other old school mp fps is a lack of replay value. The exceptions to that statement are Counter Strike and Valorant. Look at the numbers of any mp shooter 2 months after release.

BR games are the future of fps. They have been for years.

Oh and thanks for your toxic response, you should try to talk to people with a little less condescension and derision. Grow up!
 
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Theinsanegamer

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Ok, but what counts as cheating, and how do you appeal the decision? More then once I've recieved a "ban" for cheating when the game crashes and has to be force quit. If I got permabanned because activision's garbage code broke again I'd be furious.

then again gamers are passive enough as a group they'd probably take the ban and buy the game again under a different name just to get their fix.
 

Uncle Al

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Great idea and 100% supported on this end BUT that comes with a simple requirement and that is manager of those bans must, upon demand, show the evidence to everyone. No excuses, no opinions, nothing but the facts. Once you've got them, you've got them but if there is a hint of a doubt you have to give them access. That doesn't mean you can't keep tracking them but you must remember the old rule ..... innocent until PROVEN guilty.
 

sac39507

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Great idea. I'm a player of the current titles and constantly frustrated with these losers. The problem is that money talks. If cheaters make a good portion of their business and they start seeing the numbers go down, they will soon cave and remove the bans. Just like politics, money has power over principle.
 

Darth Shiv

Posts: 2,315   +849
While I dont play these games ,bans across all games[in the company] for cheating on one game is like amputating a arm because you got a hang nail.
Shitty response from a shitty company who makes shitty software.
Save your money and boycott bliz/acti
You aren't entitled to play all their games sorry. Do your boycott. That's like the garbage taking itself out.
 

Aceseven

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Seems like an overkill reaction imo, it would only hit the obvious raging cheaters, the ones who spin in a circle and headshot every player on the map in a split second, but the ones who are just using cheats to be "above average" or be undetectable theyll still be there like always.

 

brucek

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They should do what the casinos do, and perma-ban them not just from their own properties but industry wide.

I can't change the fact that there are some people who think that it's cool to cheat in multi-player games. But I would like to live in a world where I am never placed in a game with those people.

And for those few who take it beyond their personal gaming to profit-based exploiting on an industrial scale (I.e., massive phishing opeations to steal accounts by the thousands so as to sell the in-game gold for real world cash) - they should be more at risk of criminal and civil prosecution.
 

hahahanoobs

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Ok, but what counts as cheating, and how do you appeal the decision? More then once I've recieved a "ban" for cheating when the game crashes and has to be force quit. If I got permabanned because activision's garbage code broke again I'd be furious.

then again gamers are passive enough as a group they'd probably take the ban and buy the game again under a different name just to get their fix.
I would assume we're talking about proven cheaters.