CES 2022 downsizes as Panasonic, IBM, Mercedes-Benz and BMW opt out

Shawn Knight

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The big picture: The hits keep coming for CES as four more big-name exhibitors have opted out of in-person activities at next week’s event. The show will go on, however, as organizers are spinning the message to focus on smaller entrepreneurs and innovators rather than big name companies.

A spokesperson for IBM told The Verge that out of an abundance of caution, they have decided not to participate on-site in Las Vegas but still look forward to having a virtual presence.

Similarly, German automaker BMW said it is moving all planned media activities at CES to a fully online program that’ll be available on January 5. Fellow German automaker Mercedes-Benz is also a late scratch, telling CNET that due to the large number of participants and the different country-specific regulations, they cannot guarantee a safe environment and thus, have canceled their participation at CES 2022.

Panasonic, meanwhile, confirmed to Mashable that they would not be participating in-person at CES, either.

The four join a growing list of exhibitors that have already opted out including AMD, MSI, OnePlus, Microsoft, Lenovo, GM, Intel, Meta, Twitter, Pinterest, Google and Amazon, among others.

Shapiro in a piece published in the Las Vegas Review-Journal on December 25 said CES will and must go on.

“CES 2022 will kick off 2022 in messy fashion, but it will be chock full of innovation and full of entrepreneurs and businesses. We will all be taking risks. But without risk there is no innovation.” -- CTA president and CEO Gary Shapiro

“If we cancel the show, we will hurt thousands of smaller companies, entrepreneurs and innovators who have made investments in building their exhibits and are counting on CES for their business, inspiration and future,” Shapiro said.

“If we do not cancel, we face the drumbeat of press and other critics who tell the story only through their lens of drama and big name companies.”

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Sausagemeat

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Shapiro is right, we cant live in fear anymore. What do people think will change between now and next year? Or the year after? Covid isnt going anywhere, it will continue to mutate and infect millions worldwide every single day like it is currently. Life cant change permanently because Covid exists.
 

Hexic

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Shapiro is right, we cant live in fear anymore. What do people think will change between now and next year? Or the year after? Covid isnt going anywhere, it will continue to mutate and infect millions worldwide every single day like it is currently. Life cant change permanently because Covid exists.

True - with the caveat that if we hit high enough global vaccination numbers the risk will significantly minimize as it does with all vaccine-driven solutions.

The real challenge will be convincing the significant holdouts that science prevails over their news organization of choice… or conspiracy Facebook pages.
 

Squid Surprise

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Shapiro is right, we cant live in fear anymore. What do people think will change between now and next year? Or the year after? Covid isnt going anywhere, it will continue to mutate and infect millions worldwide every single day like it is currently. Life cant change permanently because Covid exists.
Vaccination rates will increase - and better vaccinations are hopefully coming within the year… not to mention more (and more plentiful) treatments… maybe even a cure..

To sum up.. LOTS of things can change in just a year. Let’s be patient - we’ve already waited 2 years - in the past, pandemics have lasted FAR longer and killed millions more.. be grateful you live in these times instead of the past.
 

Sausagemeat

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True - with the caveat that if we hit high enough global vaccination numbers the risk will significantly minimize as it does with all vaccine-driven solutions.

The real challenge will be convincing the significant holdouts that science prevails over their news organization of choice… or conspiracy Facebook pages.
I lcurrently ive in the UK, we are 90% vaccinated. Yesterday was a record high new infections, today is expected to be the highest.

The vaccine stops you from getting severely ill, it blatantly doesnt stop transmission. And we already have this. You need it to travel. I highly doubt anyone going to CES isnt going to be vaccinated.

Vaccination rates will increase - and better vaccinations are hopefully coming within the year… not to mention more (and more plentiful) treatments… maybe even a cure..

To sum up.. LOTS of things can change in just a year. Let’s be patient - we’ve already waited 2 years - in the past, pandemics have lasted FAR longer and killed millions more.. be grateful you live in these times instead of the past.
Ugh not you and your alarmingly authoritarian views again. Im super glad you are not in any form of power you would wreck untold misery on the masses out of ineptitude and fear. You are incorrect as usual. Vaccination rates decrease everytime they bring out a new vaccine. Less and less people go up for it. Also the pandemics in the past that you refer to have actively reduced the worlds population and no, did not last generally more than 2 years. COVID is not one of these, it is not even slightly comparable. Spanish flu was 10-20x more lethal than the delta variant - the most lethal version of COVID. H1N1 is more lethal than the omicron variant which despite infecting millions is practically not killing anyone. We are still overdue a population reducing event.

Ive been patient, you might be happy to give up 2+ years of your life for a mild virus but you emphatically are not making judgements by any form of logic or science.
 

Squid Surprise

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I lcurrently ive in the UK, we are 90% vaccinated. Yesterday was a record high new infections, today is expected to be the highest.

The vaccine stops you from getting severely ill, it blatantly doesnt stop transmission. And we already have this. You need it to travel. I highly doubt anyone going to CES isnt going to be vaccinated.


Ugh not you and your alarmingly authoritarian views again. Im super glad you are not in any form of power you would wreck untold misery on the masses out of ineptitude and fear. You are incorrect as usual. Vaccination rates decrease everytime they bring out a new vaccine. Less and less people go up for it. Also the pandemics in the past that you refer to have actively reduced the worlds population and no, did not last generally more than 2 years. COVID is not one of these, it is not even slightly comparable. Spanish flu was 10-20x more lethal than the delta variant - the most lethal version of COVID. H1N1 is more lethal than the omicron variant which despite infecting millions is practically not killing anyone. We are still overdue a population reducing event.

Ive been patient, you might be happy to give up 2+ years of your life for a mild virus but you emphatically are not making judgements by any form of logic or science.
One of the MANY reasons that Spanish Flu killed more people than Covid was simply because of the lack of medical technology.... the actual disease was NOT as deadly. Had Covid hit back in the early 1900s, just as many or more people would have died.

And I'd like to point out that Smallpox ravaged the world for DECADES until vaccinations basically eradicated it.

We still don't have nearly enough data to prove that Omicron isn't as deadly as Delta - let alone H1N1... and simply because of the enormity of infections, even if it IS less severe, just as many or more will die from it...

It's NOT a mild virus!! This is not "just the flu"... we've lost MILLIONS of people around the world!! And millions more have been seriously ill!!

Yes, if you're young, healthy and live in an affluent nation, you will PROBABLY be fine... but how about thinking of others? Is it so much to ask?
 

Tantor

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True - with the caveat that if we hit high enough global vaccination numbers the risk will significantly minimize as it does with all vaccine-driven solutions.

The real challenge will be convincing the significant holdouts that science prevails over their news organization of choice… or conspiracy Facebook pages.

Good luck with that challenge. You might be a little more cautious before you claim that science is on your side.

There are literally thousands of top doctors who oppose the vaxx. But they're systematically being shut down by the mainstream media. Dr. Robert Malone, the developer of the mRNA technology used in the vaxx just had his twitter account shut down for disseminating 'false information'. He is bitterly opposed to the vaxx.

How about Dr. Kary Mullis, developer of the PCR test, winner of the 1993 Nobel Prize in Chemistry. He absolutely despised Fauci.

Or Dr. Michael Yeadon, who was the chief scientist at Pfizer. Or Dr. Michael Levitt, Nobel prize winner 2013. Or Dr. Luc Montagnier, Nobel prize winner 2008. Or Dr. Satosh Omura, 2015 Nobel prize. Or Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche, head of vaccine development for Germany's Center for Infection Research.

Read Robert Kennedy's new book, The Real Anthony Fauci.

The truth is that the vaxx is worthless. The benefits fade after just a couple of months. It doesn't stop transmission. The great majority of all hospitalizations and cases are among the vaxed. They are the 'super spreaders'. Look at the recent situations in Israel, Ireland, Gibrastar. Seriously, vaxed people should be sequestered away from anyone who is vulnerable. It's really that bad.

The only solution is natural herd immunity. Moreover, the vaxx has enormous negative health effects. VAERS reports at least 20,000 deaths related to the vax. There are many independent estimates that put the real death toll over 200,000. That's just in the US.
 

Squid Surprise

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Good luck with that challenge. You might be a little more cautious before you claim that science is on your side.

There are literally thousands of top doctors who oppose the vaxx. But they're systematically being shut down by the mainstream media. Dr. Robert Malone, the developer of the mRNA technology used in the vaxx just had his twitter account shut down for disseminating 'false information'. He is bitterly opposed to the vaxx.

How about Dr. Kary Mullis, developer of the PCR test, winner of the 1993 Nobel Prize in Chemistry. He absolutely despised Fauci.

Or Dr. Michael Yeadon, who was the chief scientist at Pfizer. Or Dr. Michael Levitt, Nobel prize winner 2013. Or Dr. Luc Montagnier, Nobel prize winner 2008. Or Dr. Satosh Omura, 2015 Nobel prize. Or Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche, head of vaccine development for Germany's Center for Infection Research.

Read Robert Kennedy's new book, The Real Anthony Fauci.

The truth is that the vaxx is worthless. The benefits fade after just a couple of months. It doesn't stop transmission. The great majority of all hospitalizations and cases are among the vaxed. They are the 'super spreaders'. Look at the recent situations in Israel, Ireland, Gibrastar. Seriously, vaxed people should be sequestered away from anyone who is vulnerable. It's really that bad.

The only solution is natural herd immunity. Moreover, the vaxx has enormous negative health effects. VAERS reports at least 20,000 deaths related to the vax. There are many independent estimates that put the real death toll over 200,000. That's just in the US.
There are thousands of QUACKS who oppose it... Dr. Malone, for instance, did NOT invent mRNA vaccines - the only "proof" that he did is a website made by his wife!! He is simply opposed to the vaccines in order to make some money and notoriety.

Dr. Kary Mullis, by the way, DIED in August 2019... so his views on Covid are... non-existent... just because he hated Dr. Fauci is irrelevant.

Dr. Michael Yeadon is a QUACK - who has been fact-checked repeatedly, and his claims have been proven false...

How about Dr. Levitt - his Nobel Prize, by the way, has nothing to do with infectious diseases... and he has since recanted many of his anti-vax messages.
Here's a telling summary from the article above...

"Levitt’s messaging has wavered slightly. He now admits he was wrong about the number of deaths in Israel, and wrong that the outbreak would be over in the United States by August 2020. He’s broken ties with the anti-lockdown group PANDA “due to their anti-vaccine stance.” He’s hardly the only modeler whose models have fallen short. His critics fully agree with him that imposing Covid restrictions comes at a great societal cost. What they worry about is his tendency, in conversations with politicians, in media interviews, and in tweets to his 90,000-some followers, to downplay the coronavirus’ impact."

I could go on... but I think you see the point...

The thing with science is... you can easily CHECK the facts. Articles are peer-reviewed, and everything is in the public domain. Feel free to provide something that actually PROVES your point... you won't find anything...
 
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Lew Zealand

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Good luck with that challenge. You might be a little more cautious before you claim that science is on your side.

There are literally thousands of top doctors who oppose the vaxx. But they're systematically being shut down by the mainstream media. Dr. Robert Malone, the developer of the mRNA technology used in the vaxx just had his twitter account shut down for disseminating 'false information'. He is bitterly opposed to the vaxx.

How about Dr. Kary Mullis, developer of the PCR test, winner of the 1993 Nobel Prize in Chemistry. He absolutely despised Fauci.

Or Dr. Michael Yeadon, who was the chief scientist at Pfizer. Or Dr. Michael Levitt, Nobel prize winner 2013. Or Dr. Luc Montagnier, Nobel prize winner 2008. Or Dr. Satosh Omura, 2015 Nobel prize. Or Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche, head of vaccine development for Germany's Center for Infection Research.

Read Robert Kennedy's new book, The Real Anthony Fauci.

The truth is that the vaxx is worthless. The benefits fade after just a couple of months. It doesn't stop transmission. The great majority of all hospitalizations and cases are among the vaxed. They are the 'super spreaders'. Look at the recent situations in Israel, Ireland, Gibrastar. Seriously, vaxed people should be sequestered away from anyone who is vulnerable. It's really that bad.

The only solution is natural herd immunity. Moreover, the vaxx has enormous negative health effects. VAERS reports at least 20,000 deaths related to the vax. There are many independent estimates that put the real death toll over 200,000. That's just in the US.

One thing all those people have in common: None research COVID-19

So they are talking out of their arseholes, and their opinions are just as irrelevant as all other ignorant people on the internet who also don't work on covid. Might as well be spouting about landscaping.

And go ahead and post a reasonably unbiased link to any data backing up your other opinions there.
 

kiwigraeme

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Come on guys it's nearly a new year - always comes to NZ 1st - well 2nd to some tiny Islands .

You can argue about this and that - but when you look at facts on the ground .
Deaths, Long Covid, medical bills (USA ) , orphans etc - getting the Jab is a no brainer.

Is about hospitalisations and death rates - yes a fully vaxed person can still die - but nearly all of those are very old or in poor shape .
No one with out medical tests will know how wonderful their immune system will do .
I do wonder if Flus will hit harder with less exposure in last years

Feel sorry for people in places where there are no ICU beds due to all the unvaxxed doing their Facebook research on dedicated forums - or listening to people milking them for money or support
 

Hexic

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Good luck with that challenge. You might be a little more cautious before you claim that science is on your side.

There are literally thousands of top doctors who oppose the vaxx. But they're systematically being shut down by the mainstream media. Dr. Robert Malone, the developer of the mRNA technology used in the vaxx just had his twitter account shut down for disseminating 'false information'. He is bitterly opposed to the vaxx.

How about Dr. Kary Mullis, developer of the PCR test, winner of the 1993 Nobel Prize in Chemistry. He absolutely despised Fauci.

Or Dr. Michael Yeadon, who was the chief scientist at Pfizer. Or Dr. Michael Levitt, Nobel prize winner 2013. Or Dr. Luc Montagnier, Nobel prize winner 2008. Or Dr. Satosh Omura, 2015 Nobel prize. Or Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche, head of vaccine development for Germany's Center for Infection Research.

Read Robert Kennedy's new book, The Real Anthony Fauci.

The truth is that the vaxx is worthless. The benefits fade after just a couple of months. It doesn't stop transmission. The great majority of all hospitalizations and cases are among the vaxed. They are the 'super spreaders'. Look at the recent situations in Israel, Ireland, Gibrastar. Seriously, vaxed people should be sequestered away from anyone who is vulnerable. It's really that bad.

The only solution is natural herd immunity. Moreover, the vaxx has enormous negative health effects. VAERS reports at least 20,000 deaths related to the vax. There are many independent estimates that put the real death toll over 200,000. That's just in the US.
Others have beaten me to the punch here in picking this apart -

accines have unmistakably been shown help reduce spread of the virus, as well as reduce severity when infected. Much like the annual flu shot, the vaccine has never claimed to stop 100% of infections. Neither does the annual flu vaccine, as individuals do still contract the flu.

The deaths claimed to be attributed from the vaccine by VAERS habeen clearly debunked already:

Independent estimates are also as relevant as a Buzzfeed investigational piece - utterly useless.

The overwhelming cases of new infections are still among the unvaxed, not the vaxxed - easily found, yet again:

Gonna have to try and find some real facts here before you may start quoting things.
 

amghwk

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I lcurrently ive in the UK, we are 90% vaccinated. Yesterday was a record high new infections, today is expected to be the highest.

The vaccine stops you from getting severely ill, it blatantly doesnt stop transmission. And we already have this. You need it to travel. I highly doubt anyone going to CES isnt going to be vaccinated.


Ugh not you and your alarmingly authoritarian views again. Im super glad you are not in any form of power you would wreck untold misery on the masses out of ineptitude and fear. You are incorrect as usual. Vaccination rates decrease everytime they bring out a new vaccine. Less and less people go up for it. Also the pandemics in the past that you refer to have actively reduced the worlds population and no, did not last generally more than 2 years. COVID is not one of these, it is not even slightly comparable. Spanish flu was 10-20x more lethal than the delta variant - the most lethal version of COVID. H1N1 is more lethal than the omicron variant which despite infecting millions is practically not killing anyone. We are still overdue a population reducing event.

Ive been patient, you might be happy to give up 2+ years of your life for a mild virus but you emphatically are not making judgements by any form of logic or science.

Tell your twisted ideologies to the families of millions who lost their lives.

How blind can you be not to able to tell the difference between normal flu and Covid flu? Humans need to build up their immunity until the Covid virus and it's mutants will be muted and won't cause devastating effects anymore, like how your current "common cold" viruses are attenuated now.

The data of infections speaks for themselves.

You must have forgotten about Polio and Small pox epidemic. Maybe you were not born then. The reason for their successful eradication? - Intensive, inclusive, persistent immunizations with vaccinations.
 
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