China bans Nvidia, AMD, and Intel AI chips from state-funded data centers

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What just happened? China's push for companies to use home-grown AI chips has taken a surprising turn. According to reports, Beijing now mandates that any new data center projects that receive government funds cannot use foreign AI accelerators. The new rules also apply to current builds less than 30% complete, so Nvidia, AMD, and Intel chips already installed will have to be removed.

The Chinese government has issued guidance on the requirements that new or early-stage data centers use only domestic AI chips, writes Reuters, which cites two people familiar with the matter.

While projects under 30% complete will be required to remove all installed chips, or cancel their purchase orders, those at a more advanced stage will be assessed on a case-by-case basis.

Reuters notes that most data centers in China have received some form of state funding to aid their construction, with more than $100 billion being directed to these projects over the last two years.

Also read: Senate bill aims to restrict advanced AI GPU exports, prioritize US buyers

The sources added that it was unclear if the guidance applied nationally or only to certain provinces. Some projects have already been suspended before breaking ground as a result of the directive, including one in a northwest province that planned to use Nvidia chips.

The pace at which China has been encouraging local companies to drop foreign AI chips in favor of domestic alternatives has risen in recent times, partly spurred by the ongoing trade war with the US.

In August, following the announcement that Washington would take a 15% cut of sales from AI chips sold to China in exchange for export licenses, the Chinese government started urging companies to avoid Nvidia H20 chips. The country's Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT) wanted big Chinese firms, including Alibaba and TikTok parent ByteDance, to explain why they opted for the H20 instead of homemade rival products.

Unlike the H200 and B200, the US doesn't restrict H20 chips from being exported to China. But Chinese state media previously reported that the H20 GPUs were unsafe, outdated, and bad for the environment, and many companies use the gray market to acquire more advanced accelerators. However, China has ordered local firms to stop smuggling these restricted chips into the country.

The news will come as a blow to US chip firms, especially Nvidia, which at one point saw the Chinese market account for 20% to 25% of its total data center revenue.

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China bans Nvidia, AMD, and Intel AI chips from state-funded data centers

 

[WhiteLeaff]

They basically take money out of people's pockets to fund projects based on inefficient Chinese hardware, which even requires subsidized electricity. Great.

 

[noel24]

They basically take money out of people's pockets to fund projects based on inefficient Chinese hardware, which even requires subsidized electricity. Great.

That's basicaly The game They were playing last few decades to take over Western manufacturing and technology crown. Cars, electronics, solar, batteries, rare earths metals processing, high speed rail, construction, nuclear.
90% of chinese are slaving, so 10% could reap the fruits, after some time. Maybe not next, but one of Your future CPUs and GPUs will be chinese. nVidia and Intel will be, at best, patent trolls, charging IP licenses. If They manage to squize any from communists.

 

[yRaz]

They basically take money out of people's pockets to fund projects based on inefficient Chinese hardware, which even requires subsidized electricity. Great.

Just like what the US is doing but without all the extra steps. At least China will build the data centers. In the US we keep giving tax breaks for companies to buy GPUs and build data centers, Now they're just putting them in warehouses and not actually using them. And, hey, at least China is subsidizing the electric, my electric went up 50% as soon as the data center near my house opened. I'm subsidizing their stupid electric bill.

 

[toooooot]

They basically take money out of people's pockets to fund projects based on inefficient Chinese hardware, which even requires subsidized electricity. Great.

If USSR could copy as well as China learned to, it would probably still be alive. They are improving and fast. It helps having the access to pretty much everything from IP to tools even if they need to be stolen or bought secretly.
I believe in China's ability to copy. Surely, their chips are a bit hungry now, but they will get better.

 

[Liranan]

If USSR could copy as well as China learned to, it would probably still be alive. They are improving and fast. It helps having the access to pretty much everything from IP to tools even if they need to be stolen or bought secretly.
I believe in China's ability to copy. Surely, their chips are a bit hungry now, but they will get better.

You mean copy the massive infrastructure they've built and continue to build, with all the machines they've invented to traverse chasms and build bridges in weeks, rather than months to years? Or the largest network of high speed trains that they developed themselves?

If only they were as efficient as the US and argue over 5 metres of pavement for years, build it 10 years late at five times the cost (massive money laundering). Do tell how many power plants the US has built the past 10 years, while China builds the equivalent of 2 new ones per week.

The two countries that steal the most are the US, through the NSA, and that entity in the Middle East, through the Mossad. Operation Paperclip wasn't even a tip of the iceberg of the industrial espionage that the US engage in. But cloaked in freedom and democracy makes it palatable to those who live behind the Iron Curtain that is western propaganda (media).

 

[erickmendes]

If USSR could copy as well as China learned to, it would probably still be alive. They are improving and fast. It helps having the access to pretty much everything from IP to tools even if they need to be stolen or bought secretly.
I believe in China's ability to copy. Surely, their chips are a bit hungry now, but they will get better.

Copy? Lol...

USSR put a man in the space first... US had to run to get up to speed... US is using it's influence to stop China from having the latest chip making tools needed for anything below 10nm... Still US can't stop China scientific advance.

I would like to see how US would perfom without access to sub 10nm tooling.

Also Trump policy on education and science is enough to make the rest of the world steamroll over US corpse... US had advantage because it have decades of funding on basic science research..

Now US are burning books and tylenol bottles to avoid autism while Big Tech is sucking and cycling federal funding, investing that money on each other...

The only real thing US big techies is building is a gargantuan AI bubble that will burst anytime soon.

 

[toooooot]

You mean copy the massive infrastructure they've built and continue to build, with all the machines they've invented to traverse chasms and build bridges in weeks, rather than months to years? Or the largest network of high speed trains that they developed themselves?

If only they were as efficient as the US and argue over 5 metres of pavement for years, build it 10 years late at five times the cost (massive money laundering). Do tell how many power plants the US has built the past 10 years, while China builds the equivalent of 2 new ones per week.

The two countries that steal the most are the US, through the NSA, and that entity in the Middle East, through the Mossad. Operation Paperclip wasn't even a tip of the iceberg of the industrial espionage that the US engage in. But cloaked in freedom and democracy makes it palatable to those who live behind the Iron Curtain that is western propaganda (media).

They steal more. Moreover, it was stated many times that they behave like a developing country in the way they treat those they work with while they are way past that stage.

My representation of modern China is a thief boy that grew up into a wealthy person. He is respected, invited by other respected people.
And he still their silverware...
They do not behave like a respectable part of g what is it now, 7? They still behave, and quite shamelessly, like that country it was when they decided to allow the West in their country 40 years ago.

This is not a contrast to Western virtues or a praise of our goodness. It is just an acknowledgement of China's body maturing but its mentality staying back in times, decades and decades. They are not a respected member of developed society, they are a guest that stills silverware from the party he is invited to as a respected member.

 

[toooooot]

Copy? Lol...

USSR put a man in the space first... US had to run to get up to speed... US is using it's influence to stop China from having the latest chip making tools needed for anything below 10nm... Still US can't stop China scientific advance.

I would like to see how US would perfom without access to sub 10nm tooling.

Also Trump policy on education and science is enough to make the rest of the world steamroll over US corpse... US had advantage because it have decades of funding on basic science research..

Now US are burning books and tylenol bottles to avoid autism while Big Tech is sucking and cycling federal funding, investing that money on each other...

The only real thing US big techies is building is a gargantuan AI bubble that will burst anytime soon.

USSR never recorded their "success." And I listened to many credible Russians who are not a part of Putin's regime or USSR who are skeptical about that voyage.
They definitely went to space. When and how many people they killed in the process is the question. There is plenty of content to learn about this if you are interested.
As someone who has great interest in USSR history, there is one general rule about it: everything they state is a lie, small or big but a lie. There is a huge difference between the history recorded during USSR and after. A lot of truth came in the 90s when censorship was eased. There are serious reasons to question they put man into space first. If you have people in your life who always lie, you don't just believe anything they say.

 

[erickmendes]

They steal more. Moreover, it was stated many times that they behave like a developing country in the way they treat those they work with while they are way past that stage.

My representation of modern China is a thief boy that grew up into a wealthy person. He is respected, invited by other respected people.
And he still their silverware...
They do not behave like a respectable part of g what is it now, 7? They still behave, and quite shamelessly, like that country it was when they decided to allow the West in their country 40 years ago.

This is not a contrast to Western virtues or a praise of our goodness. It is just an acknowledgement of China's body maturing but its mentality staying back in times, decades and decades. They are not a respected member of developed society, they are a guest that stills silverware from the party he is invited to as a respected member.

Sure...
The Western is the pinnacle of civilization. Sure.

US and Europe have being ripping off resources from south america, Africa and Asia and you say CHINA is the thief? LOL

I think you missed the last 600 years. If China was a litte rat boy, well, US has grown into the godfather itself...

 

[GeoffreyA]

They steal more. Moreover, it was stated many times that they behave like a developing country in the way they treat those they work with while they are way past that stage.

My representation of modern China is a thief boy that grew up into a wealthy person. He is respected, invited by other respected people.
And he still their silverware...
They do not behave like a respectable part of g what is it now, 7? They still behave, and quite shamelessly, like that country it was when they decided to allow the West in their country 40 years ago.

This is not a contrast to Western virtues or a praise of our goodness. It is just an acknowledgement of China's body maturing but its mentality staying back in times, decades and decades. They are not a respected member of developed society, they are a guest that stills silverware from the party he is invited to as a respected member.

When many countries did not even exist, China was around and at high levels of civilisation (like much of the ancient world). Scores of inventions we take for granted came from China.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_inventions

Unfortunately, the US, in its neocolonialistic thinking, has set up China, along with others of the Global South, as the boogeyman.

 

[JMGuy]

You mean copy the massive infrastructure they've built and continue to build, with all the machines they've invented to traverse chasms and build bridges in weeks, rather than months to years? Or the largest network of high speed trains that they developed themselves?

If only they were as efficient as the US and argue over 5 metres of pavement for years, build it 10 years late at five times the cost (massive money laundering). Do tell how many power plants the US has built the past 10 years, while China builds the equivalent of 2 new ones per week.

The two countries that steal the most are the US, through the NSA, and that entity in the Middle East, through the Mossad. Operation Paperclip wasn't even a tip of the iceberg of the industrial espionage that the US engage in. But cloaked in freedom and democracy makes it palatable to those who live behind the Iron Curtain that is western propaganda (media).

Oh, please. What a weak sauce.

China’s not an efficient genius engineer—it’s authoritarian. When you don’t have to deal with public hearings, lawsuits, or basic human rights, you can bulldoze villages, silence anyone who complains, and throw up bridges and power plants with record speed.

The U.S. moves slower because democracy actually lets people have a say. That’s called accountability—you know, that thing China doesn’t do. We don’t disappear journalists or censor every uncomfortable fact to make the ruling party look infallible.

Bragging about China’s power plant numbers? Half of those are coal-fired, polluting disasters that the government keeps building just to prop up its GDP stats. Meanwhile, the U.S. has been cutting emissions, shifting to renewables, and making its grid smarter—not just bigger. Quality over quantity actually matters.

As for “the U.S. steals everything,” that’s a giant load of manure coming from a pro-China puppet shill. China’s entire tech sector is built on reverse-engineering, forced tech transfers, and straight-up hacking. Pretending that the U.S. is the real thief while the CCP runs one of the largest industrial espionage operations in history is laughably absurd.

China can build fast with inferior-grade steel—dictatorships usually can. But you’re either a troll or confused because fear-based obedience does not equal efficiency. And don’t lecture a democracy about corruption when your “anti-corruption” officials answer to a one-party police state.

Confucius say: “NPCs love to flex infrastructure when they can’t flex free speech.”

 

[JMGuy]

The bad-English forum posts from the Eastern propaganda slave farms are all over this one.

I’d also post this transparent pro-China/Russia manure if someone had me chained to a desk too.

Poor souls post weak sauce. Take a walk.

 

[erickmendes]

The bad-English forum posts from the Eastern propaganda slave farms are all over this one.

I’d also post this transparent pro-China/Russia manure if someone had me chained to a desk too.

Poor souls post weak sauce. Take a walk.

The Kool-Aid is strong with this one. They don't need to chain you to your desk, your mind is already in chains.

 

[yRaz]

Oh, please. What a weak sauce.

China’s not an efficient genius engineer—it’s authoritarian. When you don’t have to deal with public hearings, lawsuits, or basic human rights, you can bulldoze villages, silence anyone who complains, and throw up bridges and power plants with record speed.

The U.S. moves slower because democracy actually lets people have a say. That’s called accountability—you know, that thing China doesn’t do. We don’t disappear journalists or censor every uncomfortable fact to make the ruling party look infallible.

Bragging about China’s power plant numbers? Half of those are coal-fired, polluting disasters that the government keeps building just to prop up its GDP stats. Meanwhile, the U.S. has been cutting emissions, shifting to renewables, and making its grid smarter—not just bigger. Quality over quantity actually matters.

As for “the U.S. steals everything,” that’s a giant load of manure coming from a pro-China puppet shill. China’s entire tech sector is built on reverse-engineering, forced tech transfers, and straight-up hacking. Pretending that the U.S. is the real thief while the CCP runs one of the largest industrial espionage operations in history is laughably absurd.

China can build fast with inferior-grade steel—dictatorships usually can. But you’re either a troll or confused because fear-based obedience does not equal efficiency. And don’t lecture a democracy about corruption when your “anti-corruption” officials answer to a one-party police state.

Confucius say: “NPCs love to flex infrastructure when they can’t flex free speech.”

 

[JMGuy]

The Kool-Aid is strong with this one. They don't need to chain you to your desk, your mind is already in chains.

LOL. “Mind in chains,” huh? That’s some grade-A delusion right there.

Go ahead—keep defending regimes that jail journalists, erase dissent, and control what people see, say, and think, all while pretending obedience dressed up as ideology is something to admire.

You sound exactly like a state script—same lines, same hollow moral pose.

Ba-bye now, Mr. Troll. Me and my “mind chains” are off to talk to people who can actually think for themselves.

 

[JMGuy]

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Ohhh. That’s punchy. LOL. I really got pwned.

Gosh, you really added something of value there with that sharp, witty intellect. Such a well-reasoned retort.

Nope, not a tired trope with all the depth and genius of a special-needs 8 year old. Not at all.

Okay. Ba-bye now smrt boy.

 

[WhiteLeaff]

Just like what the US is doing but without all the extra steps. At least China will build the data centers. In the US we keep giving tax breaks for companies to buy GPUs and build data centers, Now they're just putting them in warehouses and not actually using them. And, hey, at least China is subsidizing the electric, my electric went up 50% as soon as the data center near my house opened. I'm subsidizing their stupid electric bill.

70-80% of the American economy is based on services. That's why there are so many data centers. But otherwise, without the power and global influence that these companies have, their complaint would be "I don't have money" instead of "Electricity is expensive."

 

[WhiteLeaff]

Oh, please. What a weak sauce.

China’s not an efficient genius engineer—it’s authoritarian. When you don’t have to deal with public hearings, lawsuits, or basic human rights, you can bulldoze villages, silence anyone who complains, and throw up bridges and power plants with record speed.

The U.S. moves slower because democracy actually lets people have a say. That’s called accountability—you know, that thing China doesn’t do. We don’t disappear journalists or censor every uncomfortable fact to make the ruling party look infallible.

Bragging about China’s power plant numbers? Half of those are coal-fired, polluting disasters that the government keeps building just to prop up its GDP stats. Meanwhile, the U.S. has been cutting emissions, shifting to renewables, and making its grid smarter—not just bigger. Quality over quantity actually matters.

As for “the U.S. steals everything,” that’s a giant load of manure coming from a pro-China puppet shill. China’s entire tech sector is built on reverse-engineering, forced tech transfers, and straight-up hacking. Pretending that the U.S. is the real thief while the CCP runs one of the largest industrial espionage operations in history is laughably absurd.

China can build fast with inferior-grade steel—dictatorships usually can. But you’re either a troll or confused because fear-based obedience does not equal efficiency. And don’t lecture a democracy about corruption when your “anti-corruption” officials answer to a one-party police state.

Confucius say: “NPCs love to flex infrastructure when they can’t flex free speech.”

That is the correct answer.

 

[captaincranky]

I think it's more than fair to call this, "another milestone accomplishment by, "trumpo the wonder POTUS".

 

[yRaz]

Ohhh. That’s punchy. LOL. I really got pwned.

Gosh, you really added something of value there with that sharp, witty intellect. Such a well-reasoned retort.

Nope, not a tired trope with all the depth and genius of a special-needs 8 year old. Not at all.

Okay. Ba-bye now smrt boy.

Oh noes, that power of your sauce has defeated me.

 

[captaincranky]

LOL. “Mind in chains,” huh? That’s some grade-A delusion right there.

Go ahead—keep defending regimes that jail journalists, erase dissent, and control what people see, say, and think, all while pretending obedience dressed up as ideology is something to admire.

You sound exactly like a state script—same lines, same hollow moral pose.

Ba-bye now, Mr. Troll. Me and my “mind chains” are off to talk to people who can actually think for themselves.

Oh lookie, another noob castoff from another site makes his presence felt, big time...You go doode.

 

[Bluescreendeath]

USSR never recorded their "success." And I listened to many credible Russians who are not a part of Putin's regime or USSR who are skeptical about that voyage.
They definitely went to space. When and how many people they killed in the process is the question. There is plenty of content to learn about this if you are interested.
As someone who has great interest in USSR history, there is one general rule about it: everything they state is a lie, small or big but a lie. There is a huge difference between the history recorded during USSR and after. A lot of truth came in the 90s when censorship was eased. There are serious reasons to question they put man into space first. If you have people in your life who always lie, you don't just believe anything they say.

You must be joking. You are seriously questioning whether the USSR put a man into space when literally no other countries question this?

Even the US government and NASA acknowledged it was the Soviets who put a man into space first...that is what triggered the USA increasing funding for the space race in the first place.

 

[captaincranky]

When many countries did not even exist, China was around and at high levels of civilisation (like much of the ancient world). Scores of inventions we take for granted came from China.

Yeah, especially gunpowder...great fun..! But a big thumbs down on chopsticks.

 

[captaincranky]

You must be joking. You are seriously questioning whether the USSR put a man into space when literally no other countries question this?

Even the US government and NASA acknowledged it was the Soviets who put a man into space first...that is what triggered the USA increasing funding for the space race in the first place.

You might find this very, very interesting: https://extremelyinterestingfacts.q...r-Komarov-the-cosmonaut-who-fell-from-space-2

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