Chinese memory maker CXMT's output has grown from 40,000 to 720,000 wafers in a few years, and it's closing in on Micron

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The big picture: Traditional DRAM and memory manufacturers have been forced to allocate nearly all of their production capacity toward supporting massive AI data center projects. Every other device requiring memory chips is now a secondary priority, but China-based companies could soon turn these unprecedented market conditions upside down.

According to a new report from Citrini Research, ChangXin Memory Technologies (CXMT) is growing much faster than expected. The Chinese memory and IDM manufacturer is expected to produce between 350,000 and 375,000 DRAM wafers per month by the end of 2026.

In 2020, CXMT had a capacity of 40,000 WPM for DDR4 production. By the end of 2025, the company had reached a quarterly output of 720,000 wafers.

The new research highlights the growing presence of Chinese DRAM manufacturers amid ongoing semiconductor supply chain challenges and Big Tech's AI data center expansion.

The traditional "Big Three" memory manufacturers are US-based Micron, along with South Korean giants Samsung and SK Hynix. If CXMT can reach 375,000 WPM in 2026, its production capacity would be comparable to Micron's.

Citrini researchers explain that CXMT can add manufacturing capacity faster than memory makers in other parts of the world. Funding is no longer the primary obstacle, as AI companies have driven memory prices and profits sharply higher.

The major constraint affecting CXMT and other Chinese manufacturers is now access to advanced semiconductor manufacturing equipment, which is far more difficult to export legally from the EU to China.

DRAM products "made in China" are quickly gaining ground in Western markets. Memory companies such as Corsair are increasing their reliance on CXMT-produced chips, providing a potential escape from the "unprecedented" prices affecting today's DDR5 memory products.

Citrini said CXMT could eventually expand its production capacity to 950,000 WPM by 2030, becoming China's largest memory manufacturer and one of the biggest memory producers in the world. CXMT still lacks the capability to produce high-performance memory such as HBM products or even high-end DDR5 modules designed for extreme overclocking.

Even if CXMT DRAM modules are not the fastest available, they could still bring a major shift to a struggling memory market where Big Tech and AI companies have left little room for affordable custom PC builds or gaming consoles.

As a result, some users are increasingly looking toward a Chinese memory manufacturer as a potential alternative, arguing that AI-driven demand from Western technology companies is making many consumer electronics products significantly more expensive.

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Chinese made memory becoming illegal in the US in 3....2....1....

Gotta protect those memory makers the same way that AC refrigerants conveniently become bad for the environment after the patent expires....(I just had to replace my AC unit because I couldn't get refrigerant for the old one)
 
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Chinese made memory becoming illegal in the US in 3....2....1....

Gotta protect those memory makers the same way that AC refrigerants conveniently become bad for the environment after the patent expires....
I realize how ardently you love conspiracy theories, but HVAC manufacturers have opposed and lobbied against every refrigerant change mandated by government. It is the radical enviro-Nazi movement -- which is also conveniently anti-corporate-- that mounts pressure campaigns for such.

And if and when China manages to dominate semiconductors the way it does other defense-critical industries, you'll find yourself muttering those conspiracy theories in CCP reeducation camps, rather this board here.
 
If China sweeps the American consumer memory segment, SMBs will not pass up that deal to improve their own margins, effectively removing a critical safety net for the big three. They are hoping to hold that bottleneck on the consumer market just in case they need to tap the well later. It may not be there for them.
 
I wonder if this means CXMT is catching up, or has Micron cut their supply. It wouldn't surprise me if Micron cut supply to the consumer market since they have colluded in the past to price fix memory, however Micron didn't get punished in the last lawsuit.
Though CXMT increasing output is what the market needs, the big 3 memory makers deserve to lose out to Chinese manufacturers while they're ignoring the consumer market to keep the AI bubble inflated.
 
I realize how ardently you love conspiracy theories, but HVAC manufacturers have opposed and lobbied against every refrigerant change mandated by government. It is the radical enviro-Nazi movement -- which is also conveniently anti-corporate-- that mounts pressure campaigns for such.

And if and when China manages to dominate semiconductors the way it does other defense-critical industries, you'll find yourself muttering those conspiracy theories in CCP reeducation camps, rather this board here.
I love conspiracies, it's so much easier to blame all the stuff stuck up my *** on aliens that way than tell my mom the truth
 
I realize how ardently you love conspiracy theories, but HVAC manufacturers have opposed and lobbied against every refrigerant change mandated by government. It is the radical enviro-Nazi movement -- which is also conveniently anti-corporate-- that mounts pressure campaigns for such.

And if and when China manages to dominate semiconductors the way it does other defense-critical industries, you'll find yourself muttering those conspiracy theories in CCP reeducation camps, rather this board here.
It just so happens that this opposition always lines up with the patents expiring.

Total coincidence I'm sure.
 
I realize how ardently you love conspiracy theories, but HVAC manufacturers have opposed and lobbied against every refrigerant change mandated by government. It is the radical enviro-Nazi movement -- which is also conveniently anti-corporate-- that mounts pressure campaigns for such.

And if and when China manages to dominate semiconductors the way it does other defense-critical industries, you'll find yourself muttering those conspiracy theories in CCP reeducation camps, rather this board here.

There is already legislature being proposed and voted on to ban cxmt memory in all US segments. you lose .. try again.
 
It just so happens that this opposition always lines up with the patents expiring.

Total coincidence I'm sure.
Total balderdash, you mean. The patents on Freon expired in 1948 but it wasn't banned until the 1990s. The R-22 refrigerant had patents expire in 1957, but wasn't banned until 2020.

There is already legislature being proposed and voted on to ban cxmt memory in all US segments. you lose .. try again.
Read posts before replying to them. I never disputed that Chinese memory -- and several other Chinese high-tech products -- are in the process of being banned. I merely noted that this is being done for valid national security concerns.
 
I realize how ardently you love conspiracy theories, but HVAC manufacturers have opposed and lobbied against every refrigerant change mandated by government. It is the radical enviro-Nazi movement -- which is also conveniently anti-corporate-- that mounts pressure campaigns for such.
Yes, because the atmosphere is so much of a sink that humanity will still survive even when the atmosphere is full of crap that it has become unbreathable.
And if and when China manages to dominate semiconductors the way it does other defense-critical industries, you'll find yourself muttering those conspiracy theories in CCP reeducation camps, rather this board here.
What brand 8-ball did you say you are using? I want to buy one since its so accurate at predicting the future. Oh wait! Propaganda straight from a radical right-wing lunatic.
 
Yes, because the atmosphere is so much of a sink that humanity will still survive even when the atmosphere is full of crap that it has become unbreathable.

What brand 8-ball did you say you are using? I want to buy one since its so accurate at predicting the future. Oh wait! Propaganda straight from a radical right-wing lunatic.

Prove him wrong, then. Produce a viable counter-argument. Or can't left wing lunatics think that deeply?
 
Yes, because the atmosphere is so much of a sink that humanity will still survive even when the atmosphere is full of crap that it has become unbreathable.
You've set a new record for absurdity. CFCs at present make up just 3.5 parts per billion in the atmosphere. CFCs are inert and non-toxic, and can be safely breathed at levels a hundred thousand times higher than this. They also degrade over time, particularly when exposed to UV light from the sun.

Meanwhile, there are dozens of other trace gases in the atmosphere -- at similar or much higher levels -- that actually ARE toxic to humans ... most of them produced naturally by a "benign" Mother Nature.

What brand 8-ball did you say you are using?
Glad you asked. My Eight-ball is based on the history of authoritarian socialist regimes, and the actual acts and pronouncements of the CCP regime.
 
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China will thank the US for helping their tech companies to grow rapidly. As I mentioned before, by the time the likes of Micron, SK hynix and Samsung comes back to the retail market, they will find a very different market that is flooded with Chinese alternatives. I think they probably see this problem brewing and catching up with them in their "rear view mirror" and desperate to fan the AI hype to keep their clients funded and can continue buying from them.
 
Chinese made memory becoming illegal in the US in 3....2....1....

Gotta protect those memory makers the same way that AC refrigerants conveniently become bad for the environment after the patent expires....(I just had to replace my AC unit because I couldn't get refrigerant for the old one)

Already being discussed by Grifter in Chief Trump and Epstein operative Luttnick.
 
China has dominated and became the number 1 manufacturing Nation in the World and if I'm correct surpassed U.S. manufacturing in 2010, only 16 years ago. Seems they may do it again with AI, robotics and chips. While the U.S. and the West wrestles with formalities and regulations, the more the U.S. talks the faster China moves.
 
However much memory the CXMT company manages to produce, I doubt that it will help the average consumer one whit. It will, no doubt, just get sucked up by the AI mob.

However, should it take vast amounts of money out of Micron's pocket, then I'm all for it.
 
Combined with the imminent cratering of demand, the memory cartel are about to have a really bad time.
 
What a load of cobblers.

Nobody "forced" the Big 3 into manufacturing wafers exclusively for data centers. They saw an opportunity to make enormous amounts of profit over a relatively short time-scale, and went for it. As would, I think, any business with its head screwed on right.

Anyone in enterprise would (and should). Nobody goes into commerce with the primary goal being to benefit everyone else EXCEPT themselves. Profit is always the over-riding motive. Aye, it frustrates Joe Public no end, but.....that's the way the world works. Money talks, and the bigger the amount, the more noise it makes. If & when it gets loud enough, it drowns out everyone & everything else.....and becomes the ONLY thing anyone can hear.

I do agree the Big 3 will find a very different market if & when they ever return to providing products for consumers. Times will be, let's say, interesting.....

Honestly, Techspot. Anything for click-bait these days, hm..?

Miq.
 
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You've set a new record for absurdity. CFCs at present make up just 3.5 parts per billion in the atmosphere. CFCs are inert and non-toxic, and can be safely breathed at levels a hundred thousand times higher than this. They also degrade over time, particularly when exposed to UV light from the sun.

Trivia digression. 'Canned Air' used to primarily be CFC's - Dust-Off was the big name forever. CFC's are denser than regular air. Similar to how helium - much lighter than air - when inhaled would give you a mickey mouse voice, taking a shot of Dust-Off would give you that deep, James Earl Jones Darth Vader voice in an instant. It was pretty funny.

The downside is that - again being dense - it would settled in your lungs and displace oxygen. So it only took a few seconds of holding it to start getting light-headed and dizzy, requiring some deep breaths to clear it.

The good old days when you could take your life in your hands for a joke, and nobody tried to have you committed.

"I find your lack of faith disturbing"
 
The downside is that - again being dense - it would settled in your lungs and displace oxygen. So it only took a few seconds of holding it to start getting light-headed and dizzy, requiring some deep breaths to clear it.
CFCs originally leaked from ground-level refrigeration units ... yet are widely dispersed through the atmosphere, including 30+ miles up into the high stratosphere. There's no risk that atmospheric CO2 will settle in lungs and cause any health issue.
 
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and have these *****s asked the people? I guess not.
Legislators regularly poll and otherwise query their constituents on issues, and there is widespread bipartisan support for preventing China from gaining control of yet another industry critical to national security.

I realize that keeping in check a brutal authoritarian regime isn't nearly as important as the next upgrade for your videogaming device, but perhaps you can let it slide just this once.
 
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