Cryptocurrency miners are buying new RTX Ampere laptops to bypass the GPU shortage

neeyik

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GDDR6X in 3080 and 3090 Hits 110C While Mining Ethereum - have fun buying the new generation and see them fail.
There's a minor error in the Tom's Hardware article - Micron don't actually state the maximum Tj value, only Tc (I.e. case temperature). In this case, it's 95 degrees Celsius for operation and 125 degC for storage; the junction temperature is going to be higher than this, although by how much isn't clear. Still, that's rather hotter than most of us would like.
 

Lionvibez

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Not half as annoying as somebody who is either trolling or completely missed this entire section of the article:

Edit: And to mitigate folks misinterpreting my response to VitalyT's post, I'm not being a serious meany :)

lol thank you for pointing out the obvious.

There is way too many trolls on this site.
 

Kosmoz

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There's a minor error in the Tom's Hardware article - Micron don't actually state the maximum Tj value, only Tc (I.e. case temperature). In this case, it's 95 degrees Celsius for operation and 125 degC for storage; the junction temperature is going to be higher than this, although by how much isn't clear. Still, that's rather hotter than most of us would like.
Thanks for the input. In the end I think the last statement is the one to keep in mind.

It's clear that the Ampere GPUs when mining are getting much hotter than the past architectures and except very few AIB models that unintentionally mitigate this issue with their better cooling design, all other cards are prone to getting too hot for very long periods of time (24/7).
That is a gamble I'm not willing to take unless the price is so low that I can say I don't care if I lose the card and the money I payed for it. Like a 3080 being $200 on used market after the mining craze ends, that maybe is tolerable. Any more than that is too much when we now know the issue...
 

OortCloud

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The sooner crypto mining dies and all the get-rich-quick apprentice wannabees move on to their next no-work, produce-nothing, requires-no-intelligence scheme the better.

No doubt the crypto mining public relations manager himself will respond to this with his usual charm.
 

terzaerian

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The sooner crypto mining dies and all the get-rich-quick apprentice wannabees move on to their next no-work, produce-nothing, requires-no-intelligence scheme the better.

No doubt the crypto mining public relations manager himself will respond to this with his usual charm.
I am just stacking up these titles.
 

eforce

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IF? Not IF, but WHEN, also:

Both of you, have fun buying those "cheap" used 100% 24/7 GPUs and see how long those "cheap" GPUs will last you from that point on...

This situation we are in now is the opposite of great and even when the crypto collapse will inevitably come (1 year?), not even then will it be great.. It's bad now and will still be bad then... for different reasons.

The only hope is that maybe at that time we can buy the new gen GPUs and have them in stock at MSRP, the 4000 nvidia series and 7000 AMD series.

I only buy brand new, but the used market will bring downward pressure on retail prices.
 

eforce

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Except for the dozens of other stablecoins now in operation, including Paxos's, which is about a white-collar and by the book as they come. Crypto isn't dying and isn't "one kill shot away" from going away.

Those other stablecoins haven't, to my knowledge, printed unbacked tokens and pumped up the market, Tether started printing when Bitcoin was around $200-300.
 

Kosmoz

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I only buy brand new, but the used market will bring downward pressure on retail prices.
The prices are so high up in the clouds right now that no amount of used market pressure will get them back to normal.

MSRP has become a joke and a lie and not only does a xx70 card (as an example) from nvidia was a lot at $500 since Turing, but even after a cryto crash I'm sure we won't see that MSRP ever again... or any other MSRP recently advertised.

We will never have reasonable prices again, it would take a world wide global recession for that to happen...
I would like to be proven wrong and the prices to actually get down to earth, though.
 

eforce

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The prices are so high up in the clouds right now that no amount of used market pressure will get them back to normal.

MSRP has become a joke and a lie and not only does a xx70 card (as an example) from nvidia was a lot at $500 since Turing, but even after a cryto crash I'm sure we won't see that MSRP ever again... or any other MSRP recently advertised.

We will never have reasonable prices again, it would take a world wide global recession for that to happen...
I would like to be proven wrong and the prices to actually get down to earth, though.

It's not just mining but government money printing that makes hitting MSRP difficult and then there is the recent tariffs on Chinese imports to US.

Also most retailers have nearly finished all back orders from September/October so they should start to become more available in a few weeks.
 

Kosmoz

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Also most retailers have nearly finished all back orders from September/October so they should start to become more available in a few weeks.
Get back to me if that happens, because I highly doubt it... unless crypto crashes until then.