Crysis 2 Performance Preview

I don't get it. Why if you love the game and the makers so much, go to all the effort of running a full article on the performance of a leaked version the makers didn't want anyone to have.

This was a bad decision. Its the first one you have made in the 10 years I have been reading the site but it seems quite serious. The code is unfinished, the game shouldn't be out there. Ignoring it and waiting for a real version to bench seems like the better idea. Instead its almost as if you are promoting the leaked version. Crazy. And opportunistic - do you really need the additional hits?

And im not reading it.
 
Julio said:
I'm truly amazed how this article's feedback has centered on an "ethics debate" rather than the substance of the findings. I see a lot of anti-piracy activism going on, and as much as I respect the varied opinions posted here (none of which will be moderated), let’s not forget the fact we are not the source of the leak, we are not distributing nor promoting the leak’s distribution, and finally we are not spoiling any content whatsoever. To be clear, this is NOT a review of Crysis 2. What we HAVE DONE is run a few benchmarks on the unoptimized code to hopefully bring a preview of what’s to come. As you all know, the first Crysis game was made famous by its incredible graphics and because of how demanding it was, and still is on PC hardware.

I’m glad to report we haven’t heard from EA or Crytek as of this moment, and I’d be really disappointed if we did because our ultimate intention is to bring some awareness and early data to prospective gamers. A simple search on TechSpot will bring dozens of reports on previous Crytek games. Far Cry and Crysis are two of my personal favorite FPS games and I paid for both titles when those were released.

Allegations about pageviews are greatly exaggerated considering that we expect this article to amount to less than 5% of our daily website traffic. We are not some kind of evil publishing empire. TechSpot is run by true PC enthusiasts and I’ve personally been behind the site for over ten years. When I asked Steve (the author of the preview) to run the benchmarks I did so enthusiastically, thinking about getting this early info out there for you to enjoy.

Thankfully a large portion of the feedback has also been positive. I appreciate the support of those who are backing our decision to run the benchmarks and publish the performance preview. Again, I’m not debating our position here, but I’m simply establishing our original intention with the article and we stand by it.
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Julio, let me summarize the reason why this article is wrong: You downloaded a pirated game, and made an article about it. That is all. That makes your website lose credibility and professionalism. I can't see why make a performance review of a unreleased, pirated game was needed, when the release date is just weeks away. What was the rush, an exclusive?

Think about it this way: In law, you can't use illegally obtained evidence to prove your case, even if you're right. I personally appreciate that TechSpot is seeking to provide us with great and useful information about the performance of the game (that's why we come here first), but, obtaining it illegally beats the purpose of the whole thing. Especially when this is supposed to be serious, professional journalism. And like I said in my first comment, I could care less about the beta being downloaded, it's just that making an article about it just looks wrong. I can't for the life of me believe you guys never thought this was --at least slightly?-- wrong before clicking that "post" button, or conceiving the idea for that matter.
 
Guest said:
Because maybe it's running at twice the resolution and at higher settings? Also these aren't hardcore settings, the beta is locked at medium with all other higher assets missing. I don't know why Techspot didn't do better research on this.
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You know I stated that on the first page right :p

They probably were unaware because AFAIK I'm one of the only long time Facepunch members here. And most, if not all the in depth Crysis 2 leak debating is still there. I'm actually surprised that you were aware of it yourself.
 
This is not a pirated version.
its a leaked test version and it isn't illegal to test it.

now if you asked, if this is illegal, how come there wasn't a news that EA apply for a D&R letter to stop the torrents and websites hosting the game in the first place. (remember sony news?)

publicity? of course yes this is what drives businesses. it is not the games. it's the marketing the eventually will lead them to millions if not billions..

- the apple fanboi
 
Guest said:
This is not a pirated version.
its a leaked test version and it isn't illegal to test it.

now if you asked, if this is illegal, how come there wasn't a news that EA apply for a D&R letter to stop the torrents and websites hosting the game in the first place. (remember sony news?)

publicity? of course yes this is what drives businesses. it is not the games. it's the marketing the eventually will lead them to millions if not billions..

- the apple fanboi
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Sorry but you're unbelievably wrong. It's almost unfathomable. The DMCA classifies the leak as pirated material because nobody using it besides Crytek is legally allowed to have copies of it.
 
Princeton, the info was everywhere.

Guest above me, it's a leaked version that's copyrighted. It doesn't matter if you think it's a test version, (even though it says only for internal use) it still doesn't justify it.
 
Guest said:
Princeton, the info was everywhere.

Guest above me, it's a leaked version that's copyrighted. It doesn't matter if you think it's a test version, (even though it says only for internal use) it still doesn't justify it.
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The info everywhere simply stated that there was NO difference. Analyzing the files in the editor shows large differences in effect and lighting qualities. Textures and models simply stay the same.
 
Princeton, yeah they change but I'm expecting even bigger jumps in the final version for the effects, etc. GI also might have something to do with the lighting differences, and it looks awesome.
 
@Princeton

Ask this yourself, how can you classify it as DMCA pirated material, when the company and the publisher have'nt done any legal matter about this in the first place. They have a window before this article was posted to sue and threaten through legal ways those who will download and and write an article about it.

it is a marketing strategy. "the hero failed to save the princess, the people have united against the enemy upon knowing their hero failed, the hero would have the people's will and will make a comeback return". this is a plot by EA, because crysis even it has the best graphics haven't sell well because of ridiculous requirements. now with crysis 2, they want to change the peoples perception about the requirements before the game will launch.

now, do you agree with me?

-the apple fanboi
 
Seriously? They leaked a whole game with the story, multiplayer keys, ways to bypass the DRM just to show PC gamers how easy it is to run the game? The more likely story is that they know that torrent sites can't be taken down and that people who download the pirated leak will get offended and turn against Crytek even more (You know to *****s who think they have a right to pirate games because they think a game is crappy), if Crytek somehow starts legal action.
 
Guest said:
@Princeton

Ask this yourself, how can you classify it as DMCA pirated material, when the company and the publisher have'nt done any legal matter about this in the first place. They have a window before this article was posted to sue and threaten through legal ways those who will download and and write an article about it.

it is a marketing strategy. "the hero failed to save the princess, the people have united against the enemy upon knowing their hero failed, the hero would have the people's will and will make a comeback return". this is a plot by EA, because crysis even it has the best graphics haven't sell well because of ridiculous requirements. now with crysis 2, they want to change the peoples perception about the requirements before the game will launch.

now, do you agree with me?

-the apple fanboi
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Nobody in their right mind agrees with you. Why would Crytek bother with takedown notices? TPB has NEVER EVER EVER taken a file down unless it was CP.

I also love how you imply a game wont be classified as pirated by the DMCA until a publisher puts out takedown notices. Do you even know what the Digital Millennium Copyright Act is?
 
Guest said:
@Princeton

Ask this yourself, how can you classify it as DMCA pirated material, when the company and the publisher have'nt done any legal matter about this in the first place. They have a window before this article was posted to sue and threaten through legal ways those who will download and and write an article about it.

it is a marketing strategy. "the hero failed to save the princess, the people have united against the enemy upon knowing their hero failed, the hero would have the people's will and will make a comeback return". this is a plot by EA, because crysis even it has the best graphics haven't sell well because of ridiculous requirements. now with crysis 2, they want to change the peoples perception about the requirements before the game will launch.

now, do you agree with me?

-the apple fanboi
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No, you're wrong, you see... Oh, I get it. You're an Apple fanboy.
 
Lawfer said:
No, you're wrong, you see... Oh, I get it. You're an Apple fanboy.
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So we all unanimously think he's insane? It's good to know I'm not alone.

UPDATE: Crysis 2 went for pre-order on steam. But $60? Go **** yourselves EA. I can get portal 2 for like $40.
 
Alright, I leave the rest to you. No one can win in an internet forum.

Remember this, Everything is possible. especially if money is involved.

Techspot has legal teams. I'm sure the writer asked EA if they can publish this article in the first place knowing that it is a test version. Now that this is published, i assumed they were given a go signal. Given a go signal, this is part of a marketing strategy. I believe I was one of the first reader of this article, can't believe after 8 hours, people will talk about the morality of the article.


Alright, you can all argue that this article is bad. Remove techspot in your bookmarks, a few whiners in the first place can't bring a site down.


I suggest go buy an apple iphone for the moment :p

PS. Crytek should investigate this internally where the leaked came from, maybe someone has the plot to buy crytek just like what happened to other great pc studios..

-the apple fanboi
I admit am an apple fanboy, because of their great products.

to all apple haters, Envy will kill you:p
 
"UPDATE: Crysis 2 went for pre-order on steam. But $60? Go **** yourselves EA."

Strangely here in the UK HMV had it for £35 on pre order last week, today I saw it for £26 with free delivery.....that will do for me. :D
I'm not too bothered about the Article tbh, seem's a little strange to test out Beta code thats sitting at medium settings in DX9 though.

I guess once the Models and texture is turned up and DX11 turned on, it will be as demanding as Crysis 1 - Warhead??

Agree??.
 
Guest said:
Alright, I leave the rest to you. No one can win in an internet forum.

Remember this, Everything is possible. especially if money is involved.

Techspot has legal teams. I'm sure the writer asked EA if they can publish this article in the first place knowing that it is a test version. Now that this is published, i assumed they were given a go signal. Given a go signal, this is part of a marketing strategy. I believe I was one of the first reader of this article, can't believe after 8 hours, people will talk about the morality of the article.

Alright, you can all argue that this article is bad. Remove techspot in your bookmarks, a few whiners in the first place can't bring a site down.

I suggest go buy an apple iphone for the moment :p

PS. Crytek should investigate this internally where the leaked came from, maybe someone has the plot to buy crytek just like what happened to other great pc studios..

-the apple fanboi
I admit am an apple fanboy, because of their great products.

to all apple haters, Envy will kill you:p
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Are you under the impression that your apple fanboy gimmick is funny? Because it really isn't. It's like making an account called kim jong il and just commenting saying "North korea is best korea" It's not funny.
 
Gotta say I agree completey with everything Lawfer and Yukka said.
It's plain to me that it's all for an exclusive. I'm disappointed TS :(
You should of waited for the game to hit shelves or for EA to hand you a copy themselves.
 
Guest is trolling.

The "leak" was an internal, development copy and you can damn well bet that some contractual obligations and LAWS were broken just by the code being leaked out. Possessing the code is also absolutely ILLEGAL.

Don't reply to the "guest" suggesting nothing is illegal about having this game. He's either trolling, or completely, and absolutely ignorant.
 
Guest said:
Guest is trolling.

The "leak" was an internal, development copy and you can damn well bet that some contractual obligations and LAWS were broken just by the code being leaked out. Possessing the code is also absolutely ILLEGAL.

Don't reply to the "guest" suggesting nothing is illegal about having this game. He's either trolling, or completely, and absolutely ignorant.
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It's obviously the latter. Trolling can't devolve into that much stupidity :p
 
The comments to this preview make me laugh and cry at the same time, and not a "ha ha tears are coming out" type of cry. Other than that commenting about it or replying to anyone would simply... well, make me feel like I'm stooping to some kind of "I'm an *****" low, so you guys can continue pointing fingers, bickering, and the like.

If anything, I think the gameplay videos that are on youtube are far worse than this article, regardless of who published the material. Oops, now I'll be targeted... oh well.
 
Steam copy costs $69 USD accessing from Australian ISP..


@Julio, you said this:
"I'm truly amazed how this article's feedback has centered on an "ethics debate" rather than the substance of the findings."

Really, who else here doesn't find ANY substance of this article?

The article itself states that the fps are VERY close to Warhead. Ergo, DX9 medium graphics = DX10 maxed graphics. Take into account that DX9->DX10 is a lot smaller performance loss than DX10->DX11, be rest assured that this game will run fairly terrible.

I admit that it's unfinished, but medium DX9 and high DX11 is a massive difference - one that I have doubts you could fill by optimising engine from this point.
 
Thats what I was trying to ferret out. i think it was Princeton who said that the 'beta' does not have a working hardcore setting...its medium only. and the cards reviewed are the heavy hitters averaging 40-65 FPS @ 1920 x 1080. The jump from medium DX9 to actual 'Hardcore' DX11 is going to be huge. (i'm assuming, and unless they have developed some serious DX11 optimizations over anything we have seen thus far) you may need a pair of CF/SLI 6950/570's to play at highest settings.
 
^-- Yes.

Also Crysis 1 &2 cannot compare - leaves on trees at the edge of map, versus flat city areas..?
 
@Julio
@Steve
So its OK for Techspot to post benches of a leaked game but when I posted fixes for missing textures in the comments on the post about it leaking that was not allowed.
I'd say leave the the pirating to the pirates Techspot.
You just lost a lot of credibility with me.
Hypocrites I say.
 
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