Downloading DeepSeek could lead to jail time and a $1 million fine under new US bill

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WTF?! Would you be willing to use the App Store-topping DeepSeek if doing so were illegal, potentially landing you behind bars for 20 years and a fine up to $1 million? A senator has introduced a new bill designed to restrict Chinese AI products that would make this bizarre scenario a reality.

Republican Senator from Missouri Josh Hawley's proposed legislation, the Decoupling America's Artificial Intelligence Capabilities from China Act of 2025, aims to prohibit those in the US from advancing AI capabilities within the People's Republic of China, and for other purposes.

If passed, the law would impose fines of up to $100 million on US enterprises that conduct AI research with Chinese firms, invest in Chinese AI companies, collaborate with Chinese organizations on the technology, or import intellectual property or technology developed in China. They would also forfeit any license, contract, subcontract, grant, or public benefit previously awarded by federal agencies, and employees could also be fined up to $1 million.

The bill also prohibits "transfer of research," which might affect researchers who make their work publicly available.

The rules would apply to individuals, too, who could face penalties under section 1760 of the Export Control Reform Act of 2018. That would mean downloading AI models from China such as DeepSeek could land you a $1 million fine and 20 years in prison. US shareholders in Chinese companies engaged in AI work could also be fined and jailed.

"Every dollar and gig of data that flows into Chinese AI are dollars and data that will ultimately be used against the United States," Senator Hawley said in a statement. "America cannot afford to empower our greatest adversary at the expense of our own strength. Ensuring American economic superiority means cutting China off from American ingenuity and halting the subsidization of CCP innovation."

Hawley's statement specifically mentions DeepSeek, which it describes as a "data-harvesting, low-cost AI model that sparked international concern and sent American technology stocks plummeting." Nvidia's value fell $600 billion, the largest one-day loss in US history, and the market went into a tailspin following DeepSeek's rise and the claims that its development costs were a fraction of those required by rival AI companies (though they were likely a lot higher than claimed).

Also see: DeepSeek's AI costs far exceed $5.5 million claim, may have reached $1.6 billion with 50,000 Nvidia GPUs

Following the launch of DeepSeek's open-source R1 model, which is said to have comparable performance to OpenAI's o1, Alibaba released its Qwen 2.5-Max model. The Chinese ecommerce giant says its product surpasses the capabilities of DeepSeek's offerings.

It's unclear how the bill would be enforced, especially with DeepSeek being the top-ranking app on the US Apple App Store.

The good news for DeepSeek users is that the bill was tabled last week, so it may be killed even without an outright vote against it.

In January, the US Navy reminded its personnel not to use generative AI apps for work or personal use, highlighting DeepSeek due to its "potential security and ethical concerns associated with the model's origin and usage"

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Since Trump we feel like we are living in communist country, restrictions flying left and right, hundreds of people lost their jobs in less than a month just because "their views didn't align" with Trump's with an additional 20 million federal jobs threaten if they don't "retired", people being sent off to Guantanamo Bay as if they were C.I.A criminals and to top it all off now getting punished for downloading an app???

Heck at this point there's no difference if we live in the U.S, China or Russia.
 
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If you can't beat them, make them illegal? WTF. What ever happened to "free market capitalism" and "regulations are bad" that conservatives are always shouting about.

I am not a supporter of the Chinese government with its IP theft, undervaluing currency, government investment/backing for companies, human rights, etc. However, just making technology illegal just because it is Chinese is dumb (TS, I can't use the word "id io tic" without being censored?). If US citizens are willing to give up their privacy for the latest, greatest fad, then that is their choice. If they know the risks, and still go ahead, then that is on them. The hypocrisy of politicians is nauseating.
 
Since Trump we feel like we are living in communist country, restrictions flying left and right, hundreds of people lost their jobs in less than a month just because "their views didn't align" with Trump's with an additional 20 million federal jobs threaten if they don't "retired", people being sent off to Guantanamo Bay as if they were C.I.A criminals and to top it all off now getting punished for downloading an app???

Heck at this point there's no difference if we live in the U.S, China or Russia.
America has always been the illusion of freedom. Its just most Americans are too stupid to understand it and go about their lives completely complicit and unaware of the world around them as they are so hyper focused on themselves and others private parts.
 
America has always been the illusion of freedom. Its just most Americans are too stupid to understand it and go about their lives completely complicit and unaware of the world around them as they are so hyper focused on themselves and others private parts.
As an American myself I can admit that most Americans love to turn the blind eye to our own national problems, but we are ready to criticize and judge other countries for far less than what we have done in the past...and with Trump it's only going to get worst.
 
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America has always been the illusion of freedom. Its just most Americans are too stupid to understand it and go about their lives completely complicit and unaware of the world around them as they are so hyper focused on themselves and others private parts.
The problem is people equate "Democracy" to "Having Elections". The fact 95% of those elections are designed to be non-competitive doesn't concern them. Which is how we got to our current state of affairs, since the end result was always going to be more radical candidates.

Hell, at least the Soviets mandated you had to win 50% of the eligible voting population to take office (something which people used strategically to get particularly bad people removed from office by simply not voting).
 
"Republican Senator from Missouri Josh Hawley's proposed legislation, the Decoupling America's Artificial Intelligence Capabilities from China Act of 2025"

The RetardiQAn senator proposal is a non starter...!
 
You don't find the fact that there are 20 million federal jobs to be problematic?

Didn't GOP already start defunding air traffic controllers in at least 3 different ways . Overturning bipartisan agreements

Yes working for govt can be a gravy train for corps , contractors, consultants

But you do know govt runs essential services - obviously emergency relief to disasters will depend on grovelling to your King and if your State voted red.

careful what you wish for - I'm sure private enterprise will love to employ all your essential workers , your army , navy and defense,, ICE agents , police, health, engineers etc

Yes let's look at countries with few government workers except those in power and their families and wow they look amazing

We have all seen or heard of stupid bosses - what do the IT people of TS do , switch on the computers, and play games - get rid of them - more money for backups, security , complete waste they are making it up FN jobsworths - sack the parasite these IT people . I know how to boot a computer and download a anti-virus company, backup just store it to cheapest cloud provider , just stuff from this week
 
"Every dollar and gig of data that flows into Chinese AI are dollars and data that will ultimately be used against the United States"
I do not know this person, but it is 100% on point.
It is just...
It is a bit late.

US raised USSR. It filled USSR with the best tech it had back then. USSR grew up into a monster devouring millions of people.
Then the US started feeding another monster to undermine USSR. The new monster is now grown up, being bigger economically, and catching up by military strength.
What is next, helping India to catch up China, or is it too late?
 
$100 Million fine? That's pocket change for the Big Four.
And loss of government contract, too, huh?

So, say Microsoft invests. Would that mean the federal government would no longer use Microsoft Office? (they could easily find a fall guy for the 20 years prison sentence, which would probably be quickly commuted)
 
""Republican Senator"" I did not need to ready any further than this .. derp senators be derping to their church and cooperate slave owners
Democrats were the ones with slaves. Most southern states were democratic and strongly pro-slavery.
 
""Republican Senator"" I did not need to ready any further than this .. derp senators be derping to their church and cooperate slave owners
Democrats were the ones with slaves. Most southern states were democratic and strongly pro-slavery.
Let's face reality, both sides have their share of brainless halfwits.

This Senator's bill is a special brand of crazy and absurd. Regulating and criminalizing software because of it's place of original is short sighted, narrow thinking at best. I really wish people would grow up, stop thinking/talking out of their butts and make efforts to improve the world & our part of it in smarter and more meaningful ways.
 
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While the news is about a Republican Senator, I believe Democrats are not that far off from putting harsh rules to block China technology, when they get too popular in the states. TikTok was the latest casualty of geopolitics. Given the success of DeepSeek, it is not surprising someone will propose to "kill it" so as to give US technology the slack.
 
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