Elon Musk demands SpaceX and Tesla employees spend a minimum of 40hrs/week in the office,...
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Ohnooze
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It's not being edgy keyboard warriors, it's just people posting their opinions.
People complaining about having to go to work fits our current culture so well.
I enjoy working from home but my company does does not owe me. It doesn't exist to cater to my wants and convenience. You're there to be a benefit for the company. If you're an hourly employee and you complain about having to go to the office to get paid then you seriously need to grow up.
Dimitriid
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Try 6.5 million for Musk's initial investment and yes actually: Most mid level office managers and IT professionals can probably put that together once they've been professionals for 15-20 years or already so if they were actually paid fairly from the get go, most employees could put together the levels of investment that created Tesla to begin with.
After that it was mostly Musk hitting up his buddies selling the plans to make Tesla greatly profitable via mostly government grants and tax breaks by virtue of being 'green' but Musk himself never actually put anything even close to a billion dollars of his own money, it was all created through speculation and opportunistic investment rounds that promised speculative returns due to the special status.
So please stop assuming Elon bestowed his vast fortune upon the miserable downthrotten employees, all he did was create a bubble pushed forth by existing government policies with the money of mostly his venture capitalist sillicon valley friends. He's not self made, he didn't built Tesla from nothing he hardly did anything at all himself he's just a damn parasite.
It's only stupid when the neurons don't connect, but I can spell it out for you: expecting people to work from office full-time, with exceptions only approved by the emperor himself shows the same disregard for a better work-life balance as expecting your worker to work and sleep and eventually die in the factory.
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And yet you missed my point TWICE now.
I clearly said his wording, not his demands.
I never stated that I dont want to work, better yet, none of you know what I do or how hard I work, yet you assumed that. The mind wonders why? Mirror, mirror or something like that?
Reading comprehension has failed all the edgy keyboard warriors here today.
Ohnooze
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No, it's not. It's not even close and it's still a stupid example and shows just how lazy and entitled you are if you believe that.
Everyone where I work is expected to work 40s.....no one has ever come close to dying. Sorry but that's extreme BS.
Ohnooze
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Sorry but I see nothing wrong with his wording. He didn't say "yeah you bitches are going to work yourself to death lol....now get to it!!!".
He's simply saying you're expected to be in the office.
And no I did not miss the point of your post.
It's okay, you don't have to hide your whip anymore, I think we all saw through your slave driver mentality - the times have changed and striving to spend less time commuting and more time with the family while still being productive is not stupid. I'm not working less or being less productive by working from home, I'm being efficient with my time and my resources, at the very least because I don't spend 2 hours a day in traffic. The company I work for can assess by itself how productive I am and doesn't need you to write comments here to defend the 40 hours in the office.
And if your company expect 40 hours in the office, one will accept it or not, depending on expectations and needs - it's called a rational choice and not laziness.
But I am entitled to better my life, you got that part right, at least.
Ohnooze
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I don't totally disagree. It would be nice to work from home and not spend money on gas and waste time traveling to and from. I get that but at the same time a company expecting you to come in the office to do your job is not slave driving. If working in the office doesn't work for you then that is fine. Everyone has their priorities and everyone's situation is different. But if you're going to act as if Elon is Hitler for his expectations of wanting people to come into the office then imo you need a wake up call. I'm not saying you specifically btw.
AlaskaGuy
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He owns the company and he's writing the checks.
Federal law wouldn't allow him to do that, even if he wanted to.
Uncle Al
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The term "Musk" should be listed in the dictionary with definition "worthless magpie that is so desperate for attention his efforts are limitless" .... or words to that effect. At this point, I'm not going to be at all surprised if he doesn't try to back out of the twitter deal. I'm actually waiting for the FTC to drop a bomb on his again for some of his foolishness .....
My counterpoint to Musk's argument is the trend of companies converting their workspaces to 'open concept' and the impact that has had on productivity. In my field, which is IT, its been absolutely negative for employees and contractors alike. When you contrast the noise levels, lack of privacy and space to concentrate, (the latter being as bad as people sitting on the same bench and table) vs being home officed, the people working from home always tend to become more productive in my experience.
AlaskaGuy
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40 hours a week behind a desk = working people to death? LMAO!
You did notice that it says, "a minimum of 40 hours"?
AlaskaGuy
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Before my back went out I worked 12 hours a day, 7 days a week busting my nuts in the oil patch where temps can reach -70F. That's three weeks on with two weeks off rotation.
Ohnooze
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And? 40 hours a week is a standard work week for full time employees.
SEE THIS LINK FOR MORE INFO IF NEEDED
"The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) states that any work over 40 hours in a 168 hour period is counted as overtime, since the average American work week is 40 hours - that's eight hours per day for five days a week. However, many employees work unusual shifts and go above and beyond this standard, putting in more than the average 40 hours. These are a few things you should know about hours and overtime labor laws."
axiomatic13
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What I can guarantee from your response here? If you are a "boss" your a horrible one. My team is performing better than ever remotely. All stats are up.
BigRedPDX
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After getting my whole office setup for remote work when the pandemic shut down happened, I realized that I, myself, am not really great at working from home. It's mostly my setup, I think, however working from home isn't for everyone. Occasionally I'll take a work from home day to get some projects finished that require a lot of phone calls and documentation. Those jobs are easy for me to complete when I don't have the distraction of my "colleagues" walking by my office all the time.
Good for Elon. This is the correct decision
Bl00dyMinded
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No it really doesn't... Here in the US we work 40 hours. Anything after that is considered OT. In China there is no federal regulated labor law like that. What musk is doing is called capitalisms Not communism when he expect his employees to actually work while they are getting paid. To many people now feel entitled that they should only work remote from home.
Good for him! Many more should follow.
Bl00dyMinded
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This sounds even more stupid and makes less sense then your first post.
RudyBob
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Work does make the rest of your life possible. Don't forget someone pays you and unless you were recruited and begged to work for Acme you asked them for a job and said yes to their conditions.
RudyBob
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There are no guarantees. I have never been a boss I was always a worker. I asked for every job I ever had and that meant something very important to me. The company said yes you can have a job which I needed so my loyalty was to the company not some guy in the cafeteria moaning he didn't get a Thanksgiving turkey from Acme...and I told him so
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