Elon Musk says SpaceX can't fund Starlink in Ukraine indefinitely, wants Pentagon to foot...

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kiwigraeme

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What's any of that have to do with Musk wanting to be paid?
Just countering those that love Putin and the evil he does

Nothing Russia touches remains clean - Corruption in Ukraine sure - Russia wants to keep that corruption for themselves - they helped caused it - as part of USSR style
 

kiwigraeme

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And yet it was Ukraine who banned its ethnic Russian citizens from speaking their own language. And it was all the way back in 2015 that the EU, the UN, and even the US Congress began sanctioning groups like Ukraine's swastika-wearing Azov Brigade, for its attempts to drive ethnic Russian Jews from Donbas, in other to meet their dreams of "racial purity" for Ukraine.
Propaganda like this has been strongly debunked - all countries have nationalists - must make you happy Russians kidnapping children to take them far away to purify them .
How many war crimes now ?

Russians could live in Ukraine , Baltic states as happy as can be- have done for long time - refuse to integrate - call Ukrainians slurs Holhols etc .
Research show most other countries happy if Russians didn't push their we are superior crap .

No problem for ethnic groups to live in other countries and keep their culture - many Rus people probably do and integrate as well - many don't even try .

Then whining if need to speak local language to get a job - is a joke given Russians ethnic cleansing going back 100s of year s
 

Endymio

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Propaganda like this has been strongly debunked

March 27, 2018: "Congress bans arms to Ukraine militia linked to neo-Nazis.... the measure bans U.S. arms from going to a controversial ultranationalist militia in Ukraine that has openly accepted neo-Nazis into its ranks....

"White supremacy and neo-Nazism are unacceptable and have no place in our world,” Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.), an outspoken critic of providing lethal aid to Ukraine, said in a statement to The Hill"


TIME Magazine, Jan 2021:

"How a White-Supremacist Militia [Ukraine's Azov Brigade] Uses Facebook to Radicalize and Train New Members....Within the global network of far-right extremists, he served as a point of contact to the Azov movement, the Ukrainian militant group that has trained and inspired white supremacists from around the world...

Its fighters resemble the other para-military units...But Azov is much more than a militia. It has its own political party; two publishing houses; summer camps for children; and a vigilante force known as the National Militia, which patrols the streets of Ukrainian cities alongside the police. Unlike its ideological peers in the U.S. and Europe, it also has a military wing with at least two training bases and a vast arsenal of weapons, from drones and armored vehicles to artillery pieces...."


 
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Endymio

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Propaganda like this has been strongly debunked

"The Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights and Amnesty International has accused [Ukraine's] Azov fighters and associated regiments of egregious human rights violations, including torture, kidnappings, and extra-judicial executions...."

Radio Free Europe, Nov 2018:

"The Azov Battalion flaunts a symbol similar to that of the former Nazi Wolfsangel....The party incorporated two other far-right organizations, including Patriot of Ukraine, which according to the Kharkiv Human Rights Group "espoused xenophobic and neo-Nazi ideas and was engaged in violent attacks against migrants, foreign students in Kharkiv, and those opposing its views...."

 
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captaincranky

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"The Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights and Amnesty International has accused [Ukraine's] Azov fighters and associated regiments of egregious human rights violations, including torture, kidnappings, and extra-judicial executions...."

Radio Free Europe, Nov 2018:

"The Azov Battalion flaunts a symbol similar to that of the former Nazi Wolfsangel....The party incorporated two other far-right organizations, including Patriot of Ukraine, which according to the Kharkiv Human Rights Group "espoused xenophobic and neo-Nazi ideas and was engaged in violent attacks against migrants, foreign students in Kharkiv, and those opposing its views...."

DILLIGAF? (Substitute "S" (sound), for the 1st "L") I didn't want to ammend the long standing meme.
March 27, 2018: "Congress bans arms to Ukraine militia linked to neo-Nazis.... the measure bans U.S. arms from going to a controversial ultranationalist militia in Ukraine that has openly accepted neo-Nazis into its ranks....

"White supremacy and neo-Nazism are unacceptable and have no place in our world,” Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.), an outspoken critic of providing lethal aid to Ukraine, said in a statement to The Hill"


TIME Magazine, Jan 2021:

"How a White-Supremacist Militia [Ukraine's Azov Brigade] Uses Facebook to Radicalize and Train New Members....Within the global network of far-right extremists, he served as a point of contact to the Azov movement, the Ukrainian militant group that has trained and inspired white supremacists from around the world...

Its fighters resemble the other para-military units...But Azov is much more than a militia. It has its own political party; two publishing houses; summer camps for children; and a vigilante force known as the National Militia, which patrols the streets of Ukrainian cities alongside the police. Unlike its ideological peers in the U.S. and Europe, it also has a military wing with at least two training bases and a vast arsenal of weapons, from drones and armored vehicles to artillery pieces...."


And then, boyz, gurlz, (and demigods), Ukraine elected a Jewish comedian as their president, in a free and fair election.
Unlike the US of course, where we're acutely, (or is it "chronically"?), aware that the election was, "stolen", and Donald Trump is still, the, a**hole in charge

 

Shaitan

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And yet it was Ukraine who banned its ethnic Russian citizens from speaking their own language. And it was all the way back in 2015 that the EU, the UN, and even the US Congress began sanctioning groups like Ukraine's swastika-wearing Azov Brigade, for its attempts to drive ethnic Russian Jews from Donbas, in other to meet their dreams of "racial purity" for Ukraine.
There there, nice Russian agent man. Let's see what the Russian covert ops were about in Crimea and "Republics" in Donbass.
The Russian needed a false flag operation in order to invade. It's like ww2 all over again. Only this time, you, Russians, are the new Nazis, and instead of 3rd Reich, we have Putin's siloviki.
 

Shaitan

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And yet it was Ukraine who banned its ethnic Russian citizens from speaking their own language. And it was all the way back in 2015 that the EU, the UN, and even the US Congress began sanctioning groups like Ukraine's swastika-wearing Azov Brigade, for its attempts to drive ethnic Russian Jews from Donbas, in other to meet their dreams of "racial purity" for Ukraine.
So these Nazis now fight for a Jewish comedian as their president?! Are you paid in rubles, good lad??
 

Endymio

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There there, nice Russian agent man. Let's see what the Russian covert ops were about in Crimea and "Republics" in Donbass.
Crimea was attempting to secede from Ukraine from the moment Ukraine first formed in 1991 ... and once the US-backed coup overthrew the government in 2014 and installed a virulently nationalist thug like Poroshenko, that desire became desperation. Lucky for them they succeeded -- as Poroshenko soon became known as the "Butcher of Donbass"

And, on the Nazi front, you may ask why Poroshenko drove around the streets of Kiev in vehicles with placards of famed Nazi sympathizer Stepan Bandera on both sides.
 
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