F-Droid says Google's new rules intentionally block free and open-source apps

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Sounding off: The war between F-Droid and Google is escalating again. The open-source Android app repository says Mountain View is quietly restructuring the mobile software ecosystem in ways that could marginalize independent distribution and weaken the broader FOSS movement – all while presenting its Play Store rules as consumer "safety" protections.

Despite Google's claims to the contrary, F-Droid continues to accuse the company of attempting to turn Android into a walled ecosystem of government-vetted apps. F-Droid representatives recently said Mountain View is misleading users, because its assurances that app sideloading will remain fully supported are false.

For more than a decade, F-Droid has offered a curated catalog of free, open-source Android software. Every package is reviewed to ensure it contains no "anti-features" that work against user interests. Each app is signed with F-Droid's own cryptographic key, and all source code is openly published.

The current flashpoint is Google's new Android developer verification process – introduced as a security measure. F-Droid says the plan contains structural flaws that would make independent app installation effectively impossible, gutting third-party stores and threatening open development.

Google addressed concerns from F-Droid and other key members of the Android community. The company stated that app sideloading remains a core element of the Android ecosystem, while simultaneously confirming some of the worst fears about its developer ID plan.

However, F-Droid remains unconvinced. It says the search giant is deceiving users.

"Google's message that 'Sideloading is Not Going Away' is clear, concise, and false," the organization said.

The new developer verification "decree" effectively ends unrestricted app installation on Android. Users can no longer freely choose the software they want to run on their devices, and developers lose an easy way to test or share their code outside Google's approval whims.

F-Droid also noted that "sideloading" is a misleading term, since downloading and running new software on a device is customarily called "installing." The term "sideload" was coined to imply that apps from third-party stores are inherently unsafe, risky, or even malicious.

By the commonly accepted definition, sideloading means transferring apps from a web source not pre-approved by a vendor. By this standard, Google's claims about sideloading are false. Google will soon require every app developer to register with the company, pay a fee, provide a government-issued ID, and agree to "ever-changing" terms and conditions to share their projects with the public.

The developer verification plan applies to every Android Certified device worldwide, covering more than 95 percent of all Android devices outside China. Even when users access third-party stores such as the Samsung Galaxy Store, Epic Games Store, or F-Droid, every Android smartphone will fall under this new policy imposed by a competing corporate entity.

F-Droid emphasizes that app safety, one of Google's main justifications for the developer verification program, is yet another false claim from the former "don't be evil" champion. The Play Store routinely delivers fake security apps, malware, and other significant security threats to billions of users worldwide.

F-Droid said Google should stop forcing developers and users to adapt to its monopolistic practices and instead focus on improving its own safeguards. The organization again called the developer verification plan an existential threat to both free software distribution platforms and potential Play Store competitors. Concerned users are encouraged to join the Keep Android Open initiative, as even Google will backpedal when facing pressure from sufficiently large, well-organized groups.

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Google wont stop. They have no financial incentive to do so. Short of all these groups coming together and FINALLY offering an alternative to android, they have no power here. Google stands to make major gains in power and control via this move, and they will not stop just because people complain. See also: ad blockers and manifest V2.

It's a prime opportunity. The Chinese figured it out, its time we had a widely distributed open OS that doesnt rely on Google.
 
You know, where are the Apple fanboy's telling us to "just go to Android if you don't like it" when people cheered on the EU and Epic for going after Apple's Appstore monopoly and walled garden?

It's almost like it was an obvious problem that was going to have to be regulated. And that allowing Apple to do whatever they wanted would just inspire more of it...
 
I don't see why a certain antitrust ruling couldn't be brought to bear against these rules.
If you are referring to the EU, their regulation wont stop this. See also: Apple's treatment of alt stores, which the EU clarified was within the scope of the DSM.

So long as google allows you to install an app store other then their own, they can play these games.
 
"The injunction issued last year by U.S. District Judge James Donato requires Google to allow users to download rival app stores within its Play store and make Play's app catalog available to competitors. Those provisions do not take effect until July 2026.
The judge also said Google must allow developers to include external links in apps, enabling users to bypass Google's billing system. That part of the injunction is due to take effect later this month."

This ruling is regarding payments. Google can still easily do this while forcing any sideloaded app to be signed off by Google, thus making f-droid's mission impossible.

Well, I say impossible, every app they distribute would need to be certified by Google first, which means all the devs that distribute via f droid would need to dox themselves to Google and pray Google would allow their apps through. RIP adguard and newpipe.

As of now, there is no legislation that forces Google to allow other app stores to distribute unsigned code.
 
They are all the same, every one of them wants control and to be able to dictate rules.
Fools do not realize how many people would happily switch to Apple as soon as they cannot install none playstore apps.
ZThis is one of the main features that attracts people to android. But greed is deaf to common sense.
 
And in March of this year, there were over 300 apps that were removed from the Google Play store because they had bypassed security.
So, how about google clean up their store with apps THEY allowed and just put a lock on the phone that
has to be unlocked in developer mode?
Most people never use developer mode and wouldn't know how to get to it anyway.
 
"The injunction issued last year by U.S. District Judge James Donato requires Google to allow users to download rival app stores within its Play store and make Play's app catalog available to competitors. Those provisions do not take effect until July 2026.
The judge also said Google must allow developers to include external links in apps, enabling users to bypass Google's billing system. That part of the injunction is due to take effect later this month."

This ruling is regarding payments. Google can still easily do this while forcing any sideloaded app to be signed off by Google, thus making f-droid's mission impossible.

Well, I say impossible, every app they distribute would need to be certified by Google first, which means all the devs that distribute via f droid would need to dox themselves to Google and pray Google would allow their apps through. RIP adguard and newpipe.

As of now, there is no legislation that forces Google to allow other app stores to distribute unsigned code.
But Epic (or others) could sue saying that the developer registration requirement violates the spirit of the ruling requiring Google to allow for rival app stores.
 
But Epic (or others) could sue saying that the developer registration requirement violates the spirit of the ruling requiring Google to allow for rival app stores.
Sure, they could, but that would require a whole new lawsuit. The Epic lawsuit was filed 5 years ago. Even if they filed tomorrow it would take until 2030 at the earliest, assuming it takes as long as it did the first time.

Also, that argument wouldnt work. The lawsuit against Google was not over rival app stores. It was over processing payments outside the app store. That's a different argument. The lawsuit against Apple was over alt stores, and per the DSM ruling, what Google is doing here would be perfectly legal.

In the meantime, Google has half a decade to cement themselves as the overlord of all software, destroying the market for side loading, alt stores, and independent development that TPTB disagree with (like that ICE app).
They are all the same, every one of them wants control and to be able to dictate rules.
Fools do not realize how many people would happily switch to Apple as soon as they cannot install none playstore apps.
ZThis is one of the main features that attracts people to android. But greed is deaf to common sense.
Count me as one of them. I've already got replacement iphone scoped out. I've been the odd man out on android for years because of side loading, safari's total lack of site settings (and every browser must be safari based on iOS), and the lack of QoL apps like Newpipe.

This move will totally destroy, say, my ability to run a cracked Into the breach (screw you netflix, I am not paying $10 a month to subscribe to play a single game) or old/unmaintained apps, and QoL apps are going to be under heavy fire. No way Google approves developers who make apps that cirvumvent Google's ads or restrictions. The powerful version of AdGuard must be loaded for this very reason.
 
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This move will totally destroy, say, my ability to run a cracked Into the breach (screw you netflix, I am not paying $10 a month to subscribe to play a single game) or old/unmaintained apps, and QoL apps are going to be under heavy fire. No way Google approves developers who make apps that cirvumvent Google's ads or restrictions. The powerful version of AdGuard must be loaded for this very reason.
Then why would you? If Google is (still) to be believed, installing apps with the ADB dev tool should still work. You'd just be "sideloading" apps through a PC (instead of on Android).
 
Then why would you? If Google is (still) to be believed, installing apps with the ADB dev tool should still work. You'd just be "sideloading" apps through a PC (instead of on Android).
According to Google, the restriction is going to be OS level. As in, the OS is going to uninstall any app that gets installed that Google did not sign, with no way to disable the behavior.

So even if you use ADB, that app will get uninstalled the moment you try to run it.
 
According to Google, the restriction is going to be OS level. As in, the OS is going to uninstall any app that gets installed that Google did not sign, with no way to disable the behavior.

So even if you use ADB, that app will get uninstalled the moment you try to run it.
Where are you getting that? As per their FAQ:
As a developer, you are free to install apps without verification with ADB.

I have not seen or heard of any restrictions further.
 
Where are you getting that? As per their FAQ:


I have not seen or heard of any restrictions further.
Interesting. Looks like they finally clarified ADB use. That's good to know.

From what I've found though, you need to use USB debugging to install and use apps with ADB, which will disable any app that requires a secure device like banking apps. It's a workaround, albeit an annoying one.

This mean, I need to register as a developer with Google and compute apk myself, which will they be aware of it, to run things on my phone. Crazy.
Only if you want to distribute an app. You dont have to sign up as a developer to use ADB

....yet.
 
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Interesting. Looks like they finally clarified ADB use. That's good to know.

From what I've found though, you need to use USB debugging to install and use apps with ADB, which will disable any app that requires a secure device like banking apps. It's a workaround, albeit an annoying one.


Only if you want to distribute an app. You dont have to sign up as a developer to use ADB

....yet.
But this mean I can't create apk to install on my family phones anymore. Either I would need to have account on the device, or ask them to create dev accounts. It is bad solution to non existing made up issue.
 
But this mean I can't create apk to install on my family phones anymore. Either I would need to have account on the device, or ask them to create dev accounts. It is bad solution to non existing made up issue.
As of right now, you don't need any account to activate developer mode on an Android, or to use ADB.
 
Google wont stop. They have no financial incentive to do so. Short of all these groups coming together and FINALLY offering an alternative to android, they have no power here. Google stands to make major gains in power and control via this move, and they will not stop just because people complain. See also: ad blockers and manifest V2.

It's a prime opportunity. The Chinese figured it out, its time we had a widely distributed open OS that doesnt rely on Google.
So I think I agree with a lot of what you and others have to say on this. We need a widely distributed open OS. Apple may be a (slightly) less evil alt to this new development. Etc. Etc. Etc...

However; we must fight this now. The battle is not lost yet if we don't surrender. The link in the article, Keep Android Open (https://keepandroidopen.org) has concrete things you, me and everyone can absolutely do. Go there and do what it says!

To anyone reading, if you care about your digital freedom, don't just sit there and complain. Join us. Be not silent. After years and years, this may be the tipping point... either way. The outcome is not yet decided unless we ourselves fail to stand up. Go to that link and join us! And spread the word.
 
So I think I agree with a lot of what you and others have to say on this. We need a widely distributed open OS. Apple may be a (slightly) less evil alt to this new development. Etc. Etc. Etc...

However; we must fight this now. The battle is not lost yet if we don't surrender. The link in the article, Keep Android Open (https://keepandroidopen.org) has concrete things you, me and everyone can absolutely do. Go there and do what it says!

To anyone reading, if you care about your digital freedom, don't just sit there and complain. Join us. Be not silent. After years and years, this may be the tipping point... either way. The outcome is not yet decided unless we ourselves fail to stand up. Go to that link and join us! And spread the word.
So long as Google controls Android, none of these victories, should they happen, would ever stick.

Unfortunately that hope died out. We need a new platform.
 
Sure, they could, but that would require a whole new lawsuit. The Epic lawsuit was filed 5 years ago. Even if they filed tomorrow it would take until 2030 at the earliest, assuming it takes as long as it did the first time.

Also, that argument wouldnt work. The lawsuit against Google was not over rival app stores. It was over processing payments outside the app store. That's a different argument. The lawsuit against Apple was over alt stores, and per the DSM ruling, what Google is doing here would be perfectly legal.

In the meantime, Google has half a decade to cement themselves as the overlord of all software, destroying the market for side loading, alt stores, and independent development that TPTB disagree with (like that ICE app).
Why would it require a lawsuit? A remedy has been ordered, which will be overseen by a 3 person panel. If Epic complains to the panel that this change violates that remedy, it could force behavioral change. Will they? I have no idea, but I don't take as dim a view on the prospects of getting this behavior changed.
 
Google needs to be reminded who it serves and it's not their wallet or money.
 
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