FCC Chairman Ajit Pai announces intent to step down on January 20

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trparky

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And, FYI, "dumb pipes" work very poorly. This isn't 1989. A 21st century Internet requires a more intelligent infrastructure.
When I mean a "dumb pipe" I mean not owning media companies that compete with third-party providers. AT&T, for instance, owns DirecTV. Comcast owns NBC. These media company purchases should've never been allowed since it allows the ISPs to play favorites. Net Neutrality was supposed to prevent favoritism.
 

Rayneofpayne

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I am already sorry to anyone offended but, It has to be said

Thank ****ing God that ******* is finally going away!!!!!!!
He is a pure example of trash in the government that has zero clue as to what he is talking about half the time.
 

dirtyferret

Posts: 675   +857
Well, no, Biden did not win. Most leftists are deeply ignorant of what's actually going on with these investigations and lawsuits. That's because the MSM systematically hides everything.
Yeah, trump is now what 0-23 in his lawsuits but leftists are ignorant...
 

Rayneofpayne

Posts: 319   +297
FACT: Biden won :)

Being in denial is not cool.
When you cheat sure, and I 100% for a fact know several states had voter fraud. Either way it doesn't matter Trump pissed off too many people so it will get swept under the rug to have the impression US elections are still pure in some sense.
Either way I hope you enjoy that ***** as president and I thought electing the second retard in the Bush family was a disaster. You are delusional if you think Biden is any better than Trump.

Once again they need to produce proper candidates democrats should have pushed Tulsi Gabbard, and they would have had the election in the bag without the cheap tricks.
 

Endymio

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When I mean a "dumb pipe" I mean not owning media companies that compete with third-party providers...it allows the ISPs to play favorites.
Ah, you're redefining terms to mean what you want them to mean, rather than what they actually do.

Now that we've settled that, to address your gravamen, ISPs have always been able to "play favorites". None ever have, with or without net neutrality. In any case, by far the most effective measure to prevent such actions -- and to give us the fastest, most reliable, and cheapest Internet service -- is to foster competition, not thwart it with intrusive government regulations.
 

trparky

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When you cheat sure, and I 100% for a fact know several states had voter fraud.
The problem is that without evidence that can be admissible in court, it doesn't matter who says what. It comes down to evidence, plain and simple.
Either way it doesn't matter Trump pissed off too many people so it will get swept under the rug
That's what you get when you manage to piss off as many people as Trump has. He really didn't know how to play nice with others and now the results of him acting like a d**k is coming to ruin his plans for reelection.
None ever have, with or without net neutrality.
But what's to say they won't? Net Neutrality was supposed to level the playing field.
In any case, by far the most effective measure to prevent such actions -- and to give us the fastest, most reliable, and cheapest Internet service -- is to foster competition, not thwart it with intrusive government regulations.
That idea may work in smaller countries but in the US, that's hard to do since it requires such massive amounts of capital to start an ISP. And even if you do have the capital to do so it's not always so easy since many cities sign what amounts to legalized monopoly contracts to local ISPs so that no other ISPs can move in on their turf.

I have two choices, AT&T and Charter/Spectrum. That's it, I have no other choice and they act like they know it too.
 

LiveFreeOrFight

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Let's see:

- The GOP loses ZERO House race 'TOSS-UPS' and flips almost all house seats.
- Joe Biden underperforms HRC in ALL cities except of course the ones in MI, WI, PA, GA (where all the fraud is reported and the statistical improbabilities appear)
- The ballot rejection rates were only 0.03% (we've never had this in history)
- Hundreds of affidavits from hundreds of witnesses showing plenty of fraud committed.
- Trump wins ALL 19 bellwether counties except for ONE.
- Joe Biden hardly campaigned, didn't answer questions (except ice cream flavor ones) and could not get more than 20 people to show up a to the few sad rallies he held.
- Trump constantly had massive record breaking rallies, including in MI, PA, WI (Detroit, Philly, Milwaukee, Atlanta) where the main fraud occurred.

Yep, the republicans manged to flip almost all house seats, but somehow Trump loses the election.. GTFO!
 

trparky

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Trump wins ALL 19 bellwether counties except for ONE.
He won in mainly rural counties. Urban counties primarily go blue.
Joe Biden hardly campaigned, didn't answer questions (except ice cream flavor ones) and could not get more than 20 people to show up a to the few sad rallies he held.
Because he was smart, he didn't want superspreading events like Trump did. Biden put the health of the public first and foremost like a real leader should. Trump held big rallies despite urging from his own advisors to not hold them for they would only serve to spread COVID-19 to even more people. And why did he do that? Because he put his ego before that of the health of the nation.
Trump constantly had massive record breaking rallies, including in MI, PA, WI (Detroit, Philly, Milwaukee, Atlanta) where the main fraud occurred.
Despite his own advisors telling him not to hold them. And gee, isn't it funny how people in his inner circle are now testing positive for COVID-19?
 

trparky

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Show. Don't tell.
Exactly. Trump needs to put up or shut up already. I'm absolutely tired of his stupidity already. Enough is enough already, I can't wait for this id10t to go already.

And to think that I voted for Trump.
What a joke. Unless, do you nean the "tens of thousands" (Fox News) that attended the million maga march?
That too.
 

wiyosaya

Posts: 5,786   +3,996
Exactly. Trump needs to put up or shut up already. I'm absolutely tired of his stupidity already. Enough is enough already, I can't wait for this id10t to go already.
Trump has nothing to put up except lies. Trump is the fraud in this presidential election.

And to think that I voted for Trump.
Well, don't feel so bad. 60,000,000 others voted for him, too.

EDIT: Learned how to write 60,000,000 ;)
 
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wiyosaya

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- Trump constantly had massive record breaking rallies, including in MI, PA, WI (Detroit, Philly, Milwaukee, Atlanta) where the main fraud occurred.
Record breaking rallies do not win elections. Voters do.

If you have evidence of fraud, you better provide it to Trump. His ship is quickly sinking from a massive leak called lack of evidence of fraud that is admissible in court. Evidence of Fraud is not Trump saying there was fraud when he has no evidence to back it up. His narcissism is getting the best of him by far, IMO.

Yep, the republicans manged to flip almost all house seats, but somehow Trump loses the election.. GTFO!
Just shows how Trump's personality worked against him.
 

trparky

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Just shows how Trump's personality worked against him.
Exactly. He didn't know how to play nice with others, he didn't know how to build coalitions which in Washington, you need to be able to do that or you're not going to get anything done. Trump wasn't a leader; I can see that now.

His whole presidency has only been a means to enhance his ego. You can tell that in how he didn't take charge of the whole pandemic from the beginning. If he had taken charge of this pandemic situation like a real leader would have, we wouldn't have half a million dead people.
 

wiyosaya

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Exactly. He didn't know how to play nice with others, he didn't know how to build coalitions which in Washington, you need to be able to do that or you're not going to get anything done. Trump wasn't a leader; I can see that now.

His whole presidency has only been a means to enhance his ego. You can tell that in how he didn't take charge of the whole pandemic from the beginning. If he had taken charge of this pandemic situation like a real leader would have, we wouldn't have half a million dead people.
If you are interested in learning more of what makes him tick, here is a great episode of PBS' "Frontline" (assuming you have access to it - you may be able to find it elsewhere, however, IMO, it is worth watching - https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/the-choice-2020-trump-vs-biden/
 

cliffordcooley

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If you voted for that ******* Biden, please do block me. For the life of me I can't understand. Why someone would let their anger for one person sway them to vote for possibly the worst candidate in history. At least Hillary still had her marbles, as twisted as they were she still had them. Biden has lost half of his. Go ahead and chalk this up as a victory. I'm telling you now, you've not won anything.
 

veLa

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That may eventually be true, but for the moment it is not officially fact. Biden has yet to officially be announced as the President-elect. The main-stream media and now apparently Techspot is making that presumption. Should we consider your tech articles to be just as fake when reported?

LOL.

There's nothing wrong with being in denial. It's a natural part of healing.

The facts in this case are very clear. Trump crushed Biden in the regular vote in the swing states. But the elves were mighty busy that night with their Dominion machines, fresh paper ballots and illegal maneuvers. First they drove the Republican observers out. This happened in multiple states, simultaneously. Then Voila, in the early morning hours, literally millions of votes mysteriously appeared, most for Biden. According to Giuliani, not a single Republican was allowed to examine and validate the contested mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania or Michigan. Mail-in ballots must be physically examined for irregularities by parties from both sides. Only after both sides are satisifed is a ballot deemed to be legitimate. Once you separate the ballot from its envelope, all traceability is lost. That's why hands-on confirmation is so important.

That alone is enough to invalidate them. Giuliani has hundreds of sworn affidavits citing criminal acts by Democrats that night. Affidavits are very serious, people do not file them just for fun. Lying on an affidavit is a 5 year jail sentence.

The voting machines were also seriously compromised. They were all connected to the internet and the votes were sent to foreign servers. The source code is proprietary, so nobody knows how votes were manipulated. There are numerous examples of votes switching directly from Trump to Biden and unexplained huge vote spikes, almost always for Biden.
Statistical analysis shows serious irregularities. For example, Benford's law is a mainstay in election fraud analysis. It predicts a natural distribution of leading digits in voter data. Biden's swing state Benford law distributions are extremely wonky, with huge spikes. Other candidates have normal distributions, in the very same voting districts. That's simply not possible.

No my friend, this is extremely serious. It will probably end up in the House for a Constitutional 12th amendment vote. If that happens then Trump will win because Republicans control the great majority of state house legislatures.

Listen, I'd love to pick apart everything you said, especially the parts about Ghouliani and the evidence he apparently has but won't show anyone, but overall, I think it's just in everyone's best interest to label you as mentally incompetent.

Have a good day in your mental hospital.
 

veLa

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If you voted for that ******* Biden, please do block me. For the life of me I can't understand. Why someone would let their anger for one person sway them to vote for possibly the worst candidate in history. At least Hillary still had her marbles, as twisted as they were she still had them. Biden has lost half of his. Go ahead and chalk this up as a victory. I'm telling you now, you've not won anything.

I think it's really interesting how Trump supporters project all of his negative (only) traits onto other people.

With that being said, I work for NBC and thought I'd drop this here for you to enjoy with me šŸ˜‰:
 

Puiu

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TechSpot Elite
It most certainly is. It's not what many badly-misinformed media sources told you it meant. But that's a different matter.

I remind you that the Internet has existed for several decades, all but a couple years of which were free of net neutrality restrictions, and yet none of the rather ludicrous sky-is-falling predictions of its proponents have ever come to pass. In fact, casting our eyes around the world, the only nations where the Internet can be truly said to not be free are those in which the government has enacted laws and regulations which, like net neutrality, give it blanket authority to regulate the internal workings of Internet providers.

Happy to oblige you. Many US ISPs engage in what most people, including myself, would consider deceptive advertising of rates which fail to include these so-called "hidden" fees. However, this is hardly unique to this industry: the airline, banking, and auto-loan industries are also infamous for this. The FCC -- like all other executive-branch agencies -- merely enforces the laws that Congress enacts. If Congress wishes to step in with additional legislation, that would be one solution, though I believe the proper venue for enforcement here is the FTC (which can address such practices for all industries, and which already holds legislative authority for same) rather than the FCC.

Prior FCC chair Tom Wheeler's "solution" of reclassifying the entire Internet as a common carrier was government overreach of elephantine proportions: not only unconstitutional, but one which would eventually lead to horrendous consequences for consumers. Thankfully, it is gone -- but had Pai not repealed it, the Supreme Court would have done so eventually. In fact, the only reason it survived the first Supreme Court challenge is because of Gorsuch's recusal, as he had originally heard the instant case.
You only have weird opinions and zero facts. Thank god Ajit Pai is leaving, just as the people wanted from the beginning. Destroying NN only resulted in stagnated competition, speeds and prices. All of the things predicted by NN proponents happened.

One of the main reasons to remove NN was bigger investments by the IPS... it turned out to be just another just a broken promise like every other promise made by them. Spending went down and data on speeds is fake. (I won't link the articles but you can just search for them on arstechnica)

Are you seriously acting in favor of having hidden fees when regulation was in place to not be so? Seriously? You have an excuse for everything it seems.

FYI previous regulations were not unconstitutional and worked well. Not only did it work well, but it was what the US citizens wanted by a very large majority. But this is what happens when the voice of the majority is stifled by an unpopular president and his incompetent friends.

You still haven't said anything that showed you know what NN is and why it was needed. In simple terms: net neutrality prevents internet service providers, such as Verizon or Comcast, from manipulating network traffic for discriminatory purposes (like they've done so many times already).
 
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