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FDA must be really running out of things they can ban.
Nowadays, we live in a Orwellian horror show. Where media moguls go to the extent of not allowing you to make "mixed tapes", from music you've legitimately purchased. Where if you ask a woman you work with out on a date, she might have your job the next day. So, day by day, our civil rights are being eroded.
Cigarettes are however, are an evil which needs to be contained, since they drive up the health care costs of everyone, even non-smokers.
I quit smoking "cold turkey". With that said, my life style was conducive to being able to do that. Every other evil, drink, drugs, and other smokers, make it difficult to put the damned things down.
I believe that vaping is a reasonable alternative to cigarettes. The drugs that big pharma has offered for the purpose of "smoking cessation", are ineffective, and pretty much worthless, most notably bupropion and nicotine patches..Hell, I took up smoking a pipe in an effort to cut down on cigarettes, and it made me feel so good, I lit up a cigarette after I was done to enhance the experience.
I do feel compassion (not really, I'm pretty close to being a sociopath, albeit a non violent example), but vaping from what I"ve read, has a much lower risk factor.
Vaping products should be monitored by the FDA. and illegal uses of vaping paraphernalia, shouldn't have any effect on availability of approved product.
With all that said, we live in a culture where the sins of the few, are paid for by the many.
As soon as people get their heads straight that you can't put another safety gadget on every car in the world because of one person's death, or prohibit ecigarettes because of a minute percentage of casualties, the world will be a better place.
Is any of that likely to happen in our modern,"nobody is responsible for their own actions world"? Not bloody likely.
There was a court decision in the UK which banned mixed tapes from being made from iTunes (?) sources. Obviously it's highly unlikely that anyone would be prosecuted for doing so. But, the transcripts of the hearing were on the web, (and possibly still are), whereby the attorney (solicitor ?), for media interests walked into the courtroom and flatly stated, "we're losing money if the court allows this practice to continue", .and the judge bent over for him and , OK we'll ban this practice while we think about a bit longer".Bloody hell, I ain't ever heard of not being allowed to make mix tapes. I still buy CDs and have made them a few times for road trips and stuff, and then I also tend to drop them onto a Spotify playlist as well - generally you can still use them as 'fair use' you just can't copy and distribute for other people. I haven't heard any examples of anyone being prosecuted for it, but to be fair it's not something I pay close attention to.
As I said earlier, when I was in my teens, a person of any age could buy a pack of fags. In the US, the marketing campaigns, (complete with brand specific merchandise), were pervasive, and targeted heavily toward the youth market.BWhat I do think needs to happen with vaping is a regulation on the marketing and flavours because they all seem to be leaning very, very heavily on younger audiences which I think is really unethical as they're too easily influenced by marketing, peer pressure and social norms.
Trump only pretends to give a f**k. He's latching onto the current anti-vaping hysteria to improve his polling numbers, which are at present, abysmal.
Exactly. I have a strong suspicion that the cigarette industry went to Trump (maybe even paid him to some secret offshore bank account) and encouraged him to attack the vaping industry. Who knows, maybe it was one of them that commissioned the story about the vaping deaths as part of their attack.I'm not in favour or against vaping (although my brother used it a while ago to quit smoking altogether), but this smells of cig industry shenanigans.
If Biden heads to GNC and stocks up on "Prevagen", he might stand a chance. Bernie Sanders makes sense at times, but I can't picture him a "presidential", not to mention all ther "pie in the sky health care promises". I honesty think Hillary Clinton's, "free college for everyone" sunk her chances from being out of touch with the budget and special interestsOne can only hope he doesn't get reelected but I fear the competition just isn't up to the task yet again.
Is there a worthy challenger to take him on and have a good chance of winning?
STOCKING*...the way you said it sounds like you're silently hunting vape juice flavors you like.I'm so tired of hearing about this on every ****ing website. This is TechSpot. Talk about computers and other tech.
I'm stalking up on the flavors I like. Chump can suck it. I'm just so tired of this all.
I read someone wrote "seam" for "seem" earlier. Better writing makes for easier reading. No one wants to read your posts over again because you misspelled something very basic.Typo indeed. Thanks for the grammar Nazi post. No for real I am gonna edit that, even though it won't matter since you pointed it out. I do know the difference, just to be clear.
But you know, now that I think of it, I really have been stalking flavors since they are freaking sold out nearly everywhere as all the shops clear their inventory with 35-40% off sales. So you could say what I said was factually correct anyway.
IMO, anyone is a worthy challenger to feckless leader.Trump only pretends to give a f**k. He's latching onto the current anti-vaping hysteria to improve his polling numbers, which are at present, abysmal.
One can only hope he doesn't get reelected but I fear the competition just isn't up to the task yet again.
Is there a worthy challenger to take him on and have a good chance of winning?
Maybe people could pretend they are smoking by sucking on a plastic straw in public. However, plastic straws are on their way to the plastic straw graveyard, too.There is a movement to eliminate smoking. In all forms. They don't even want you going through the motions of smoking because others see it and want to try it because they *think* it looks cool.
It doesn't matter if someone invents a 100% safe cigarette.
Trump a laughing stock - I agree with that. IMO, its even worse. He has no clue. He probably needs an adviser to help him pi$$.America and Trump at it again.
Well and truly the laughing stock of the planet.
Margin of error is used in studies such as showing the chance that smoking cigarettes causes cancer. Since there have been only a few deaths thus far there hasn't been time to do any long term studies. But on the surface since all the people who died and all those hospitalized with severe lung disease were vaping it seems to me that the margin of error is close to zero (0).70,000 people die a year from opioids
480,000 people die a year from smoking
6 people died from vaping
My physics teacher always said that anything less than a 0.5% margin of error is usually scientifically negligible. Tens of millions people vape, a few hundred are having lung issues. What's the percentage on that? This is supid. I don't smoke or vape but this is absurd.
We also have decades of experience with pesticide related lung diseases, this new one is completely unknown and being associated with marijuana cartridges and the pesticides used to create counterfeit ones. The lung issues we are trying to associated with marijuana cartridges does not look anything like the pesticide diseases we have decades of experience with.
We're banning vaping after 6 deaths but keep cigarettes legal after nearly 500,000 yearly deaths....
If you watched the Democratic "debate" last evening then you heard Beto O'Rourke say that he will confiscate AR-15's if he becomes president. I don't recall hearing any of the other candidates go quite so far.Thank God they don’t treat my AR-15 rifles like Vapes !!!
But's that's not really the question. Regardless of who the Democratic party nominates, it's a given you're going to vote for them. The question, and paramount issue, is who can beat Trump in the national election. It's a slam dunk that you voted for Hillary, in spite of what your personal feelings toward her as a potential president might have been. But she lost anyway.IMO, anyone is a worthy challenger to feckless leader.
Not that this has anything to do with the statement you're quoting but, Beto O'Rourke is a loser, and a very long shot at getting the Democratic nomination. It has to do with him, "almost winning", in a heavily Republican district. A loss is still a loss, and a true superstar (read "centrist") Democrat might have pulled off a win..If you watched the Democratic "debate" last evening then you heard Beto O'Rourke say that he will confiscate AR-15's if he becomes president. I don't recall hearing any of the other candidates go quite so far....[ ]....